Sharing some doodles that I did few days back. Your comments would be welcome!
Medium used-Pencils and ball point pen on paper.

The smooth contours versus the sharp lines.... damn I like it...

I am naming them Ducati Monster, KTM Duke and the RSV

Pss.. The monster would look better with a Ltwin engine

Pardon some of my noobe questions; all in the learning curve!!!

Ok got it so which means, this is to be used in track. Correct me, if I'm wrong, why would the manufacturers produce such motorcycles that're intended to be used on track? Is it for someone to practice & aspire as track rider? If yes, then why these motorcycles aren't produced based on "made to order" basis instead of keeping them in showroom? IIRC there're more tourers & commuters & enthusiasts than racers right?

God!!! are there such people who like to spend less time on seat while touring?

I checked out them, yes they seems to be far better & FJR, absolutely loved. Anyday, my favourite is XJR1300, what a beauty!!!

Augusta looks very scary too; somehow, due to their design or something, I dislike them, though I love to spell "MV Augusta" all day ; isn't this the model used by Trinity to crash the security & the motorcycle in the movie Matrix Reloaded?

Now to comments on your design, hope you'll take them positively

Pic1 - Rear monoshox seems to be hidden & gives an impression as missing along with chain/belt. As Satyen says, the first one reminds me of Monster but the tank looks little disconnected on the front. Also the front suspension/forks are appearing too close inwards to the motorcycle. Somehow it reminds more of cafe racer models & not too sporty.

Pic2 - Frontal is beautiful; reminds me of FZ; But the rear of KTM. Actually, except the monoshoque & the rear part, I loved the entire motorcycle. But again, missing gear shifts & foot rest. The front fenner could've been little more extended inwards the motorcycle & missing rear fenner.

Pic3 - The rear alloy is missing a spoke & looks very aggressive of all 3; again missing monoshoque.

If I understood right, the first one is naked/street, second one semi faring & third one full fairing. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Ans1: That's a superbike for you! You must definitely check out the video!

YouTube - Throttle Jockey: Honda CBR 600-RR vs. Kawasaki ZX-6R

Look carefully what she has to say about track day riding. Listen carefully from 2:10.

Ans2: There are guys on XBHP who do touring on sportsbikes!

Ans3:

Ans4: Agusta [and not aUgusta]. The bike in Matrix 2 is Ducati 996 during the chase and MV at starting.

Thanks about the feedback on my designs. Just made them in 1.30 hour! Just doodles. Serious sketches need a long time and serious drawing materials!

Thank you!

Really good pics.
Keep it up boy.

@Satya - I'm not a fan of CBR's, but I'm willing to make an exception on this 600!!! Look at the riding seats, they're really awesome on CBR & again, the position of handle bar is what makes the different from ZX.

Now here's a question - If I change my handle bar's height or width without touching the top fork brackets, will this alter any of the engineering?

The moment I saw the riding positions, I was able to understand the riding comfort; Didn't want to hear it from her though!!!

But anyday, my piece of cake would be HD's, Intruder, Vulcan, XJR1300, Fury (awesome), Stateline, GT1000, Bonneville - all of them make 10/10 for touring.

1.
Italians do things differently. Their designs are immortal. The designs may not be flashy like Japanese designs but don't fade away when its old.

2.
Not all Jap designs worth. Current R1 sucks. Most of the Honda designs are worst. Honda's other-than supersports, sports category are better - fury, rune to name a few. Honda put too much stickers and their vehicles look cheap. Also just have a look at these
1. Glamour
2. NXG splendor

Not only the stickers but the shape too.

Indian style:-
We don't have much of history in the Automobile section to write about. Only in the past 5-10 years we are creating automobile on our own. Hence we can't really comment on.

3.
NIT,IIT

when some one says I am studying in NIT or IIT or whatever...I really don't care.

Automobile designs should come from our heart and on its own. You can't create a ground breaking design by studying from a top college or a college that has all the facilities. These colleges may be good if you want to do AUTOMOBILE ENGINEERING than automobile designing.

Designing is all about creativity not about colleges. Its about imagination, it shows your interest towards the subject, Its shows your creativity. No college can teach you these. It should come on its own.

There are many magazines like out there showing some designs created my IITians. I recently saw some Nano designs in Overdrive which are created by IITians. They are the worst designs I came acros and doesn't worth a penny.

4. Bajaj design - Most of the Bajaj's design follow Glyn Kerr's advise and it shows. There is nothing wrong with it. Take Pulsar 200 for instance, its having one of the world's greatest designs.

5. TVS
TVS Apache RTR - I admire this bike a lot. Its a fusion of Italian over Japanese or an Italian type.

I dislike the Apache but the RTR is one of the stunning piece of design of all time. What a muscular thing its ! I liked it a lot.

Pulsar has some design cues similar to Unicorn or the likes but the Apache shares nothing when you compare it with any bike the market.

Rest of the TVS designs are not worth enough to write about.

6. I am waiting for our own style.
I am very much interested in creating our unique "indian" style. In fact, I have started creating it
;-)

I will post some designs on tomorrow. Hope you like them. I apologize if this post is having grammatical / spelling mistakes. I typed it in a hurry.

@ all: The post may appear a bit aggressive but I have nothing against our members particularly sathya. I am just telling my general opinion. Kudos to sathya for creating this thread.

TVS Matador



TVS Grenadier



Royal Enfield Clubman RS



Bajaj Venture

@amvj:
The line quality is not bad. But you have to maintain a certain proportion. There must be a difference of one and half wheel between two wheels. The height of bike should not exceed one and half wheel.
After that it would look fine.And we must know what parts are we drawing and their functioning so we can show/hide them! And using a compass would be good!

@ argee: Yes it is possible to change the height of the handlebar or 'clip-ons'. Provided you are ready to extend the hydraulic lines and for the awkward position. Moreover when fully turned, the handlebar must not hit the fairing!
Check it out!
convertibars.com

Next we will look at stance of a motorcycle.

Stance:
There isn't any technical definition for stance of the bike,. But it can be said that it is the general outline of a bike which defines it's purpose and style.
Stance of a bike does not mean the seating position of the rider. That is Riding stance. Riding stance is shown by the triangle that we have seen before.
Stance is majorly shown by front fairing position,tank and tail piece. Stance generally makes the bike feel aggressive or gentle. Ducatis have a relatively upright stance. The headlight fairing is higher from the tyre. The tank and the tail are in somewhat same line.The tank peak is rear biased. The Japanese bikes have an aggressive stance. The fairing is much closer to the front wheel. The tail is very high pointing upwards. And the tank peak is usually directed towards the front part.

In the following example, we see that how the stance of the Kawasaki Z1000 changed with time. How upright it was and how slanted it is now.




Just checkout the peak of the tank! So,higher the peak, the more muscular the bike looks.

Nowadays there is an increased trend towards aggressive design. All of the other types,namely cruisers,tourers,etc are moving towards forward inclined sports styling.

Another good example is of Ducati Streetfighter. Designer Damien Basset had the brief that the bike's stance should like a big cat ready to pounce.





Hence the headlight goes very low. Below the peak of the tank. Making it aggressive.

Comments welcome.

nice observation....

Posting about the Mojo 300

First impression about the bike is that it is not bad. But price will determine everything. It is a Malaguti rip off. Or maybe they bought the designs from Malaguti.

I would like to comment on the design.

The tank line goes up while the belly pan line goes down. It is an opposing effect. Then the tail goes up like a motocross bike. The headlight size makes the tank look very small. The radiator cover is not so well executed. Rest is ok.

The tank peak should be higher.





I won't be buying this bike. Because it is not a sports bike. And for a streetbike, it is way behing the latest trend of muscle bikes. Wherein you have small headlight and big tank.

Doing those changes would make it look like this!