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**payeng** · 05-10-2010, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

Moreover, I really dont see further 'eating up of each others share' between Pulsar 135 and Discover 150 as Pulsar 135 and Discover 135 were selling at almost similar price tags. (Assuming that Bajaj will stop Disco 135)

This bike could be considered an existing Discover 135 with extra capabilities at similar or even lower price tag. Pulsar 135 going crowd will still go for Pulsar 135 with the Discover 135 crowd upping themselves to this one. Remember its almost around 25-35k Discover 135s which Bajaj used to sell.

Moreover, this bike is kept different from Pulsar 135 as the specs speaks loud and clear. This would be more of a sedate performer (13ps) with extra load carrying capability(12.75Nm) as compared to Pulsar 135 which is an out and out performer.(13.5ps & 11.something Nm)

Bang on!

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

But I have been admiring Bajaj for the way they are working hard to reduce the weights of their bikes. This bikes tipping at 120 odd kgs on the scale is really one feature I am looking out for.

Same opinion here.

The Discover is for the "honest" commuter, regardless of whether its 100 cc or 150 cc. Let the commuter get his dose of extra torque. We should only be happy for him.

**praji** · 05-10-2010, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Bang on!

Same opinion here.

The Discover is for the "honest" commuter, regardless of whether its 100 cc or 150 cc. Let the commuter get his dose of extra torque. We should only be happy for him.

i agree wit u !! every company does this !! i.e providing more choice to the Customer..and im happy that atleast bajaj is makin an effort to plonk in new engines (may be not entirely but new nevertheless) ...jus have a look at hh model line up almost 5 to 6 bikes use the same engine (read 98cc engine) with jus different plastics and weird colours !! ...we have to keep in mind that we live in country called india ..wer bike entu like us form a small percent !! and major part is the commuter segment !! thats y even yamaha launched ybr 110 !! so this way for a person who wants decent power and dosen want to loose out on average and is on a tight budget this bike fits perfectly ...i guess a lot of people fall into this category !!

**MSN1** · 05-10-2010, 11:12 PM

Its possible only for Bajaj to call more than 6 cc lower engine as 150cc

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

Even the classic Pulsars launched in 2001 were 143.9cc engines but were called as Pulsar 150...

Even-though this didn't happened in other brands rite

then in that case even the 135 cc can be called as 150 coz the difference is only 9 cc (144 cc) rite

All consumers are not fools but some are.....

**pabi** · 05-10-2010, 11:31 PM

this move good for company and shareholders.. will bring up the sales .. we "BIKERS" shld wait for some time.. hope bajaj gives us some perf bike...

**nipunblaze135LS** · 05-10-2010, 11:34 PM

46000?
i read it right?
That means aprox 50k otr.
even a 100cc costs more!
Discover 135 sells at about 55k otr.

engine is a 13hp unit have a torq of about 12Nm and gives a mileage of 65kmpl!
how is it possible?

Even the bike weights less then p135ls! (2kgs less)

ok bajaj is giving somthing for every one,
and the strategy is working.

now lets just wait for performace tests and we will know it hits the target or miss it!

**satishg** · 05-11-2010, 12:38 AM

bajaj customer ko phakal karke chodega !! what non sense !!!

**madhav krishna** · 05-11-2010, 01:10 AM

well by this price of 46000 & mileage of 65kmpl for a 1500cc bike we can expect what the quality of the bike would be.

neways i am waiting for the road test

**Devilpulsarian** · 05-11-2010, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

Even-though this didn't happened in other brands rite

then in that case even the 135 cc can be called as 150 coz the difference is only 9 cc (144 cc) rite

All consumers are not fools but some are.....

Brother, I am a little confused as to what relationship are you deriving from this difference. Its just a name which is given to a bike. How does it relate to fooling a customer or a customer getting befooled.
Talking about other brands CBZ classic was a 156. something cc bike, did we call it so...?

**yamahatrooper** · 05-11-2010, 02:07 AM

There we go Bajaj with it's doodh packet production marketting strategy:

Skimmed milk:1/2 ltr:1 ltr:2ltr:: Discover: 100cc:135cc:150cc
Full bodied milk:1ltr:1.8:2.2 ltr lmao.

**madhav krishna** · 05-11-2010, 08:44 PM

this is the site of the new discover 150

Bajaj Discover 150 - More excitement per litre - Discover India with the new powerful Discover 150

**kanishka007** · 05-11-2010, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by yamahatrooper View Post

There we go Bajaj with it's doodh packet production marketting strategy:

Skimmed milk:1/2 ltr:1 ltr:2ltr:: Discover: 100cc:135cc:150cc
Full bodied milk:1ltr:1.8:2.2 ltr lmao.

sad people just think of it as customers.. and that too customers in age group 20-30. if i am now wrong i heard some time back its gonna be Pulsar and Discover brands for Bajaj and wont be sporting Bajaj on the bikes. This is an obvious and coolest step 1 can imagine of building brands. My dear, u hate this, u blame this, but down the line 5 yrs u gonna advice ur frnds-

Looking for a commuter- go for discover it has a wide range

looking for a sport- go for Pulsars.. too gud in range for all segments.

this is an ultimate step that shall seperate bajaj from the HHs and the TVS.This if not in 2 yrs, if not in 4 yrs, but definitely down the line make bajaj as the most powerful 2 wheeler company in country

i will appreciate if i see avengers coming in 150, 200 and 220 segments. will rock and will be best for customers.

stop thinking as if u r d only buyer in the market.! cheers!

**kanishka007** · 05-11-2010, 09:02 PM

my above comment was not directed on any1.. i just picked up ur quote and it was a message for all.. i hope no1 minds

**krUnIzZlE** · 05-11-2010, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by kanishka007 View Post

sad people just think of it as customers.. and that too customers in age group 20-30. if i am now wrong i heard some time back its gonna be Pulsar and Discover brands for Bajaj and wont be sporting Bajaj on the bikes. This is an obvious and coolest step 1 can imagine of building brands. My dear, u hate this, u blame this, but down the line 5 yrs u gonna advice ur frnds-

Looking for a commuter- go for discover it has a wide range

looking for a sport- go for Pulsars.. too gud in range for all segments.

this is an ultimate step that shall seperate bajaj from the HHs and the TVS.This if not in 2 yrs, if not in 4 yrs, but definitely down the line make bajaj as the most powerful 2 wheeler company in country

i will appreciate if i see avengers coming in 150, 200 and 220 segments. will rock and will be best for customers.

stop thinking as if u r d only buyer in the market.! cheers!

See, i dont think you are 100% wrong, but you are not 100% right either.

Heres why:

your saying that they have a WIIIDDDDEEEEEE range of the same bikes is a good thing right? in some cases thats good. BUT the customers now a days want something different, a change perhaps. They dont want something just upgraded with a few more CC's and thrown into market. Another thing, most people who buy higher CC bikes, about 80 to 85% are usually from 16 to 26. Because after that, most of the people focus on average wali bikes and their jobs, wife, kids etc. One good example would be the TVS JIVE (dont laugh lol, its not funny) they came into the market with something new and completely different. the public is not saying to bajaj that they shouldnt come out with all these 10CC differentiated bikes. But to also add new bikes instead of just doing minor changes to the 2 popular bikes they have and throwing it back into the market...

I hope you understand.

**MSN1** · 05-11-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post

Brother, I am a little confused as to what relationship are you deriving from this difference. Its just a name which is given to a bike. How does it relate to fooling a customer or a customer getting befooled.
Talking about other brands CBZ classic was a 156. something cc bike, did we call it so...?

Yeah CBC Classic was 156cc (somewhat more than 150cc or something that is pretty close to 150cc like 149 or 148 cc is acceptable)
but in this case Discov.. 150 is 144 cc which is again 9 cc above discov.. 135

so by bajaj naming convention whats wrong in calling 135cc also as disco..150

**payeng** · 05-11-2010, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by krUnIzZlE View Post

See, i dont think you are 100% wrong, but you are not 100% right either.

Heres why:

your saying that they have a WIIIDDDDEEEEEE range of the same bikes is a good thing right? in some cases thats good. BUT the customers now a days want something different, a change perhaps. They dont want something just upgraded with a few more CC's and thrown into market.

Really..??

Then how come the Splendor has been the "Largest selling motorcycle in the World" for around straight 8 (or is it 9) years..??
For the record, the Splendor still doesn't come with a self start.

One needs to look through the eyes of the "target" customer.

An average commuter actually finds peace of mind with a well established Brand/Product.

This is exactly the reason why the Discover 100 has been a runaway success.. after Pulsar the Discover is the most established brand from Bajaj.. Never mind if earlier it was (125/135) cc and currently it is (100/150) cc. The Discover Brand is still familiar to the average commuter.

The Discover 100 sells around 70,000-80,000 bikes a month. It goes without saying that any company would do anything to achive that find of sales numbers by selling "all" of its products.

Customers who want something different from the crowd presently go for bikes like the Fazer. And that is not the "target" customer for the Discover (or Splendor) Brand.

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

Yeah CBC Classic was 156cc (somewhat more than 150cc or something that is pretty close to 150cc like 149 or 148 cc is acceptable)
but in this case Discov.. 150 is 144 cc which is again 9 cc above discov.. 135

so by bajaj naming convention whats wrong in calling 135cc also as disco..150

Why don't you shoot a mail to BMW Motorrad, asking them the explanation of how could they brand the BMW R1200 GS, when the actual engine capacity for the same model is just 1170 cc..??

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