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  • #151
    Originally posted by lijok View Post
    @Sajan bro..... I've done some research on SPST and SPDT relays and now what you said makes sense to me... . Now for the hard part of identifying the stock wirings... GOD help me...

    The attached image shows the circuit with the SPDT relay, right?



    Now, where does the lights on switch come? The no light, park lamp, headlight toggle switch...
    Diagram is correct to the switching mode

    U need to put the main lights on switch between the ign switch and the H/L relay switch. Instead, I would suggest u to give the ign/batt switch out to the stock RR lighting output wire, so that the entire lighting supply line will become full DC and everything will work as stock. Get a H4 male adaptor to the stock bulb socket to get the H/L relay trigger wires which is more easier to complete the circuit.

    If u follow this way, don't've to smoke ur head anymore for identifying each and every wire on the loom, not a single wire will be spared for wrong connection and u'll've less tappings too.

    Male H4 adaptor

    Follow the pinouts
    Last edited by sajjt; 11-16-2011, 12:05 PM.
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    • #152
      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
      Lijo - You don't need an extra relay if you are going for HID setup. The wiring harness given by Navnish has a relay.
      yes the HID circuit has a relay. But I dont always use the HID. Also, since the routing of the lights from battery was not proper, I though its better to have it straightened out.

      Originally posted by sajjt View Post
      Diagram is correct to the switching mode

      U need to put the main lights on switch between the ign switch and the H/L relay switch. Instead, I would suggest u to give the ign/batt switch out to the stock RR lighting output wire, so that the entire lighting supply line will become full DC and everything will work as stock. Get a H4 male adaptor to the stock bulb socket to get the H/L relay trigger wires which is more easier to complete the circuit.

      If u follow this way, don't've to smoke ur head anymore for identifying each and every wire on the loom, not a single wire will be spared for wrong connection and u'll've less tappings too.

      Male H4 adaptor

      Follow the pinouts
      You answered my next question. Thank you.
      Anyway I'll surely have to smoke my head when I implement these theory into practical on bike...

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      • #153
        @lijok , @sajjt ,@drvtm

        thanks for ur pics on the connections .

        in this picture https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

        u cut 2 wires on the red connector and taped them to the ape rr grey wires directly right ?? and then the black +yellow wire from ape rr to battery ?? also in stock wiring there are 2 connectors that connect stock rr unit to the wiring harness . what will happen to those 2 connectors ?? also what about the black wire (ground ?) bolted on rr unit in the pic ? where to fix that after ape rr +rewind .

        http://i.imgur.com/CpOIW.jpg plz see pic link
        Last edited by Jeanie; 11-19-2011, 02:50 PM.

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        • #154
          @ Jeanie.

          In stock, the rr unit has 2 connections just like you mentioned.
          Basically these 2 are complicated as it goes to the headlamp as well as the TCI unit through very complex wiring.
          You'll have to remove your stock RR unit and keep these connections unplugged.
          Another thing is, that there will be a orange wire with red single pin connector in your TCI unit, confirm weather this has direct current from the battery keeping the stock rr connector unplugged, if not the you'll have to route this connector to the battery positive terminal.

          Rest of the things are simple, get the switches re-done from a mech to provide full DC everywhere.
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          • #155
            yes i found a single pin red connector with orange wire going from tci to the stock wiring harness . how to find out if it has direct connection to battery as it goes inside the stock harness ?? i think it might be already having direct connection
            Last edited by Jeanie; 11-20-2011, 01:14 PM.

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            • #156
              hey guys ..
              changing the coil & RR unit to the ABS's ones solves the problem ???

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              • #157
                Originally posted by Lijok View Post
                Originally Posted by lijok
                @Sajan bro..... I've done some research on SPST and SPDT relays and now what you said makes sense to me... . Now for the hard part of identifying the stock wirings... GOD help me...

                The attached image shows the circuit with the SPDT relay, right?



                Now, where does the lights on switch come? The no light, park lamp, headlight toggle switch...

                Sorry for the late update, the diagram is not correct, one of the fellow member had pointed the mistake just now which I didn't noticed till now. Its the NC pole to the low beam will be on always irrespective of the switch key/main light switch is on/off as its directly connected to battery. Better u follow the first diagram which is having 2 SPST relays.
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                • #158
                  Originally posted by Devraj View Post
                  hey guys ..
                  changing the coil & RR unit to the ABS's ones solves the problem ???
                  +1 will it? Maybe along with the wiring harness too?

                  Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                  Sorry for the late update, the diagram is not correct, one of the fellow member had pointed the mistake just now which I didn't noticed till now. Its the NC pole to the low beam will be on always irrespective of the switch key/main light switch is on/off as its directly connected to battery. Better u follow the first diagram which is having 2 SPST relays.
                  Thank you... anyway I'll wait a while before going back to DC.
                  BTW, putting the off-park-lights switch on the wire from battery to Common terminal of the SPDT relay will solve this no?
                  Last edited by lijok; 11-23-2011, 08:34 PM.

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                  • #159
                    Maybe along with the wiring harness too?
                    It is confirmed that changing the coil & RR unit of ABS can make the RTR full DC, lil wiring tweaks are needed, but the power remains bottleneck, i,e 35W ..

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                    • #160
                      finally did my rtr to full dc , i have left the stock wiring harness's black ground wire taped up and not bolted to the rr . or should i bolt it to ape rr ?

                      did not have multimeter to check readings etc. but i did ride for 20 mins and everthing seems ok

                      rtr guys with hids , where do u fix the ballast ?
                      Last edited by Jeanie; 12-04-2011, 07:11 PM.

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                      • #161
                        Re: electrical modification,convert apaches to full dc with power to run hids all day

                        finally did my rtr to full dc , i have left the stock wiring harness's black ground wire taped up and not bolted to the rr . or should i bolt it to ape rr ?

                        did not have multimeter to check readings etc. but i did ride for 20 mins and everthing seems ok

                        rtr guys with hids , where do u fix the ballast ?
                        One inside the headlamp fairing assembly and the other inside the left scoop

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                        • #162
                          Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                          I agree. But I heard from a friend of mine that CBZ-X's RR behaves differently and there is no need of RR change. Though its not my first hand experience. I shall try to verify the info once again and will get back. Apologies if its not working !!
                          did you confirm it mate i am waiting for your reply.
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                          • #163
                            Converted my RTR 160 FI in full DC after rewinding the coil with 19 SWG wire and also installed new ape rr. The o/p ampere shown by RR ( yellow of RR and -ve of battery for measuring ampere) is around 3.5 to 4amps. Although the voltage measurement across battery varies from 13V to 15V.
                            But the problem arises after the conversion, rr unit installed gets too hot after running the bike for few kms and also malfunction light ( fuel pump light) light up after starting the bike and indicating an problem with FI system.
                            Experts plz shed some light on this.
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                            • #164
                              Originally posted by SARAB_FI View Post
                              Converted my RTR 160 FI in full DC after rewinding the coil with 19 SWG wire and also installed new ape rr. The o/p ampere shown by RR ( yellow of RR and -ve of battery for measuring ampere) is around 3.5 to 4amps. Although the voltage measurement across battery varies from 13V to 15V.
                              But the problem arises after the conversion, rr unit installed gets too hot after running the bike for few kms and also malfunction light ( fuel pump light) light up after starting the bike and indicating an problem with FI system.
                              Experts plz shed some light on this.
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                              • #165
                                @ rx da: heeeeeee.
                                Now I will not dozed off atleast for some time. Lolz
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