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finally the arrival of the HID man..... welcome.... the mods look mean....Originally posted by navnish View Post
please enlighten us with the cost figures of different kinds of HID....Timon: Orange Yamaha FZ16 2009
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H4 4300k Bixenons cost around - 2.8kOriginally posted by kinshuk.arya View Postfinally the arrival of the HID man..... welcome.... the mods look mean....
please enlighten us with the cost figures of different kinds of HID....
Any holder type 4300k Single beams - 2.2k
H4 4300k Halogen + hid cost - 2.4k
I saw a lot of projectors and most of them in terms of output were sad. Bixenon projectors bulky and big . So i finally got a hella micro de . Its sturdy and the light output is really sharp and neat .
People are spending 5k for Projectors i would suggest check the hella micro de once before spending . Hella Micro de costs 5.5k for a pair .
This is what all you will get in 5.5k

Many guys are looking for external lights with hids they can do something similar . All the below bikes are using the hella micro de.



I have attached a pic what i took few weeks back. Will post some pics in action later.Converting Halogen / HID headlamp setups to FULL LED.
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Once again - Thanks Kinshuk & Ranjith
Will check the album; So if I understood right, the HID is fixed inside the projector; the projector is fixed inside the existing dome. Correct me, if my understanding is incorrect.Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post3. the projector is to be fitted inside the existing headlamp. to know how it looks chk out my album....
Have a vague understanding that the light would be too much & it is the projector that helps to focus the light properly & limits the brightness.Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post2. It blinds the oncoming vehicle which can cause an accident.
Ok, but how much ampere? What should be the power of battery? Does an Activa's 5amps battery suffice for HID as well as serve the stock vehicle? Or does it require additional 5amps or more battery?Originally posted by RanjithMN View PostHIDs require a DC supply.
Why a coil winding is necessary? Is it to charge the battery? If yes, how much output is required from the generator?Originally posted by RanjithMN View PostIm not sure about the following but older gen bikes like the Pulsars with AC setup required coil and winding for anything above a 35 Halogen bulb
Is it the load current you're talking about? I couldn't get much here. Appreciate an brief answer.Originally posted by RanjithMN View Postand also note that a 35w HID draws more power than a 35w halogen ONLY at the start till it reaches its full output and then requires LESSER power than halogen!
What's this Holder Type? I couldn't getOriginally posted by navnish View PostH4 4300k Bixenons cost around - 2.8k
Any holder type 4300k Single beams - 2.2k
H4 4300k Halogen + hid cost - 2.4k
Is this a BiXenon or a regular HID?Originally posted by navnish View PostSo i finally got a hella micro de . Its sturdy and the light output is really sharp and neat .
I thought a projector is always required to fit a HID. Is this something a new funda? If my assumption is right, Hella Micro DE doesn't require a doom & they're a straight fix to the motorcycle & doesn't need a dome to protect the projector lens. Pls help understand!!!Originally posted by navnish View PostPeople are spending 5k for Projectors i would suggest check the hella micro de once before spending . Hella Micro de costs 5.5k for a pair .
If I'm not wrong, the pic contains...Originally posted by navnish View PostThis is what all you will get in 5.5k

- Two HID's (probably for top & bottom)
- Wires to connect from battery to the HID
- Clamp to hold mount the HID's
- Projectors are missing or not required for Hella Micro DESkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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are you sure regarding the cost??? cos i had asked about 6 months ago at the pune office and i got a reply that the set will cost 15000 as single and 27500 as a set and hence i was thinking of only the hid but now since you are saying that its gotta be cheaper, i will love to fit the projector instead of the hid onlyOriginally posted by navnish View PostH4 4300k Bixenons cost around - 2.8k
Any holder type 4300k Single beams - 2.2k
H4 4300k Halogen + hid cost - 2.4k
I saw a lot of projectors and most of them in terms of output were sad. Bixenon projectors bulky and big . So i finally got a hella micro de . Its sturdy and the light output is really sharp and neat .
People are spending 5k for Projectors i would suggest check the hella micro de once before spending . Hella Micro de costs 5.5k for a pair .
This is what all you will get in 5.5k
Many guys are looking for external lights with hids they can do something similar . All the below bikes are using the hella micro de.
I have attached a pic what i took few weeks back. Will post some pics in action later.Suffering from Parked Motorcycle Syndrome
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Originally posted by aargee View Post
PS. The prices i mentioned is for a single kit .
H4 4300k Bixenons cost around - 2.8k ( Each )
Any holder type 4300k Single beams - 2.2k ( Each )
H4 4300k Halogen + hid cost - 2.4k ( Each )
What's this Holder Type? I couldn't get
The micro de is a h3c holder type. you can just mod a h3 holder and fix it thats what i did .
Is this a BiXenon or a regular HID?
The hella de is just the projector you dont get a hid with it need to buy a hid separately .
This is a single beam regular one .
I thought a projector is always required to fit a HID. Is this something a new funda? If my assumption is right, Hella Micro DE doesn't require a doom & they're a straight fix to the motorcycle & doesn't need a dome to protect the projector lens. Pls help understand!!!
You can fix a hid without projector also.
The mico de doesnt require any doom .
What you need to do is buy a hella micro de and a hid kit and then fix it .
The Hella micro de dont come with HIDs they come with halogens 60/55w to be precise.
You need to buy a HID separately. it will turn out expensive but this is the best combo for getting good light output and a sturdy light .Converting Halogen / HID headlamp setups to FULL LED.
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answers in blueOriginally posted by aargee View PostOnce again - Thanks Kinshuk & Ranjith
Will check the album; So if I understood right, the HID is fixed inside the projector; the projector is fixed inside the existing dome. Correct me, if my understanding is incorrect.
true !
Have a vague understanding that the light would be too much & it is the projector that helps to focus the light properly & limits the brightness.
Projector spreads the beam well and has a cut off above which light does not escape to cause glare to oncomers .
Ok, but how much ampere? What should be the power of battery? Does an Activa's 5amps battery suffice for HID as well as serve the stock vehicle? Or does it require additional 5amps or more battery?
For Activa you will need to make bike full dc and use a rr that allows higher rate of charging .
If I'm not wrong, the pic contains...
- Two HID's (probably for top & bottom)
- Wires to connect from battery to the HID
- Clamp to hold mount the HID's
- Projectors are missing or not required for Hella Micro DE
thats 2 single beam projectors with halogen bulbs .
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so basically if anybody wants to fit a hella micro de with hid it will cost 2.8k for the hella and 2.4 for the hid.... but that is better than a projector and hid in terms of cut off and glow...Originally posted by navnish View PostThe Hella micro de dont come with HIDs they come with halogens 60/55w to be precise.
You need to buy a HID separately. it will turn out expensive but this is the best combo for getting good light output and a sturdy light .Timon: Orange Yamaha FZ16 2009
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Hey,Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Postare you sure regarding the cost??? cos i had asked about 6 months ago at the pune office and i got a reply that the set will cost 15000 as single and 27500 as a set and hence i was thinking of only the hid but now since you are saying that its gotta be cheaper, i will love to fit the projector instead of the hid only
That was 6 month old story man.
A guys here in xBHp (Puneet1) is offering bi-xenon with projector lamp.
Looks street legal set up to me.
You can contact him at Puneet1
He does it in Mumbai it seems, so should not be a problem for you as you are in Pune.
I am planning to get it fitted on my Karizma when I plan to visit Mumbai.
Let me know if you do it successfully.
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Sorry Navnish, I'm too dumb for youOriginally posted by navnish View PostThe Hella micro de dont come with HIDs they come with halogens 60/55w to be precise.
; I couldn't understand a bit. Are you saying Hello Micro DE is a projector or completely a different breed? If yes how?
Also is it some kind of lens or something that comes with an ordinary 60/55W Halogen bulb. If one requires more bright (in terms of white light), they need to fit a regular HID?
Oh!!! which means, Hella Micro DE comes with default Halogen. Right?Originally posted by navnish View PostYou need to buy a HID separately. it will turn out expensive but this is the best combo for getting good light output and a sturdy light .
Thanks Puneet. I'm getting a hang of it. Appreciate your answers.Originally posted by Puneet1 View Postanswers in blue
But why two single beam? Is it to make it look like Fazer, R15 etc?Originally posted by Puneet1 View Postthats 2 single beam projectors with halogen bulbs
Aah!!! Just wanted to touch base on this topic before the amps. Thanks for that.Originally posted by Puneet1 View PostFor Activa you will need to make bike full dc and use a rr that allows higher rate of charging
Questions
1. Why does the entire motorcycle needs to be on DC?
2. I know horn, turn lights & one line to rear lamp is DC, while other line & head light is AC. By "full" what all are covered by DC in addition to these?
3. Higher rate of charging, I can understand, but how much? Is there a thumb rule as how much of output is required by generator to charge it?
4. How about fitting another additional battery exclusive for this projector & HID?
5. Last but not the least, I've an option to fix a HID or a Halogen bulb to a projector. Right? If yes, I can fix any amount of watts right?
Look above, he's posted.Last edited by aargee; 09-16-2010, 08:05 PM.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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hella micro de is a Lo beam halogen projector . its sealed so can be used externally on bumpers etc .Originally posted by aargee View PostSorry Navnish, I'm too dumb for you
; I couldn't understand a bit. Are you saying Hello Micro DE is a projector or completely a different breed? If yes how?
But why two single beam? Is it to make it look like Fazer, R15 etc?
Aah!!! Just wanted to touch base on this topic before the amps. Thanks for that.
Questions
1. Why does the entire motorcycle needs to be on DC?
2. I know horn, turn lights & one line to rear lamp is DC, while other line & head light is AC. By "full" what all are covered by DC in addition to these?
3. Higher rate of charging, I can understand, but how much? Is there a thumb rule as how much of output is required by generator to charge it?
4. How about fitting another additional battery exclusive for this projector & HID?
5. Last but not the least, I've an option to fix a HID or a Halogen bulb to a projector. Right? If yes, I can fix any amount of watts right?
an 35 watt hid typically consumes about 3.5 amperes current after bulb stabilises in 10-20 seconds , till then it takes in upto 8-10 amperes .
to make sure no battery issues are there an RR unit should be making atleast 4 amps at 4000 rpm .
Hid needs dc current to operate . it cant run on ac unlike halogens which work on both .
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a rookie question about RR unit...Originally posted by Puneet1 View Posthella micro de is a Lo beam halogen projector . its sealed so can be used externally on bumpers etc .
an 35 watt hid typically consumes about 3.5 amperes current after bulb stabilises in 10-20 seconds , till then it takes in upto 8-10 amperes .
to make sure no battery issues are there an RR unit should be making atleast 4 amps at 4000 rpm .
Hid needs dc current to operate . it cant run on ac unlike halogens which work on both .
how many windings does a normal rr unit have and what is the charging rate at that time?? and how many windings should be done to increase it to 4Amps at 4000rpm..Timon: Orange Yamaha FZ16 2009
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Originally posted by aargee View PostLook above, he's posted.
Mishtake ..
This makes me wonder if it can be fitted on ZMA.Originally posted by Puneet1 View Posthella micro de is a Lo beam halogen projector . its sealed so can be used externally on bumpers etc .
an 35 watt hid typically consumes about 3.5 amperes current after bulb stabilises in 10-20 seconds , till then it takes in upto 8-10 amperes .
to make sure no battery issues are there an RR unit should be making atleast 4 amps at 4000 rpm .
Hid needs dc current to operate . it cant run on ac unlike halogens which work on both .
I think ZMA's got DC circuit, not sure though.
Also, it's got 7A battery.
Would it be sufficient or it will need an upgrade to 9A battery?
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the 7ah battery is more than enough to handle a 60/55w halogen and/or an hidOriginally posted by surendra.xbhp View Post
Mishtake ..
This makes me wonder if it can be fitted on ZMA.
I think ZMA's got DC circuit, not sure though.
Also, it's got 7A battery.
Would it be sufficient or it will need an upgrade to 9A battery?Timon: Orange Yamaha FZ16 2009
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