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  • #76
    Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
    and just when i thought you didnt have faith in me!!!!!.
    actually if you dont put load then amp will not cross 1.5~2 k mark,.talked with lijo told him to run all day on hid mode and throw away the kicker!!,just to ensure the coil is working well,.
    thje voltage is 14+ on load that is the biggest indicator of the load effect,its good.
    i checked the coiland it was givin 8.5 amps from 6 k rpm onwords but the real bit is its givin 4amps from 2k.

    only prob lijo is facing is low drop of amp while turning on which can be eliminated by using capacitor .....
    Errr !! I am worried about over charge What will happen if there is no load ?? Pumping 8.5amps to a 9aH battery ?

    Regarding faith on you. Dude, you have a PM

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    • #77
      On load no charge-load present then 8.5 amps. Dont worry.
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      • #78
        I was wondering where the discussion about my DC conv was going on all this time... was looking in the wrong threads...

        Update to doc, shree, navnish - am still running in always-on mode... till now no issues with rest of the things. I'm getting a new digital MM in a day or two . So will check everything.

        @doc - please post the specs of the capacitor I need to install once you figure it out. The display restarting when switching on the HID (only 4 times total till now) is the only problem yet...

        @Sajan - boss, I'll call you at day time. I came to this thread today only, so missed out on all the conversations going on here..

        @Shree - the ride back was not about guts, but I needed to be back by tuesday to take care of few things... Then again, the NH7 can be used with a blind fold man... hehe
        Last edited by lijok; 09-26-2010, 12:40 AM.

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        • #79
          Finally converted my RTR to full DC without any problem.
          Cost: Approx 850 bucks.
          Details: Will post shortly.

          Thanks to DOC and others for their support.....
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          • #80
            Originally posted by kauria View Post
            Finally converted my RTR to full DC without any problem.
            Cost: Approx 850 bucks.
            Details: Will post shortly.

            Thanks to DOC and others for their support.....
            Oh no, do make it suspense man
            Break it now we all are curious about the econo mod
            Do it Yourself, what so ever, if Possible
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            • #81
              Originally posted by kauria View Post
              Finally converted my RTR to full DC without any problem.
              Cost: Approx 850 bucks.
              Details: Will post shortly.

              Thanks to DOC and others for their support.....
              850 bucks

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              • #82
                DC for RTR

                I was kind of board with my pathetic RTR head light and the system it used for the entire electrical setup. I was looking for a decent headlight setup via DC and which should be HID & 55Halogen ready. I tried different setups, and in process I lost almost 2000 bucks but not satisfied, I always feel poor pickup, horn problems when using H/L through DC, curtsy my TCi ignition system and poor TVS battery. Our dear member DRVMTM helped me a lot and it was him who shows me the way how to do it.

                In general everyone here used to convert their bikes into full DC using an APE RR unit plus coil rewinding, which is a great option. Even once I opt that route, but somehow I failed due to poor workmanship of the coil builder and I lost my patient, for the next few months I was stop thinking about DC electricals, but I could not resist the call of better light and again jump into it few days ago, and the success came finally and I am still in the final checking mode, and checking the electricals day in day out basis. But touch wood it still works fine.

                The process is simple, I didn’t rewind the coil, it is still stock (4 coils for charging and 4 coils for lighting) I just discard the stock RR unit and install a 3 phase RR unit from an Indian bike. The charging rate has increased and now the battery provides a flicker free headlight and horn. I tried all the DC electricals at the same time and there is still no problem. The point here is this total conversation is done only using the stock charging out put of the coil, and the lighting output of the coil is still leave as it is, Which can be used for a secondary fog light. I have tried 55watt to without any problem, now I am looking for HID kit, which will be my last step for my better headlight.

                Will post some pictures after HID installation.

                Now the cost part:

                3 phase RR unit cost Rs.750.00
                Cable and other small eqps approx Rs. 100.00.
                Labor cost: Self satisfaction.
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                • #83

                  Can u post some wiring diagrams. Atleast a rough sketch in MSPaint will do.
                  Thanks.

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                  • #84
                    awesome work Kauria !! i had read some posts here that we cant use 3 phase RR 's on RTR . how long has the mod been working ? plz create a new thread on this with more details ! .

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                      Can u post some wiring diagrams. Atleast a rough sketch in MSPaint will do.
                      Thanks.
                      Also the charging rates too. Being on stock coils, check for the city drives and b2b traffic as it can drain the batt in no time with a mean coil, its my assumption though.

                      A 3 phase RR will work by leaving one of the input wires open and its as good as a single phase RR by logic. But I was suspicious about the output when I was about to choose RE RR with a single phase coil.

                      Anyways congrats to u man for finding another econo DC conversion method.
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                      • #86
                        @kauria...
                        congo,you finally did it.
                        seems like you used a bullet rr? details please.for hid,contact navnish.
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                        • #87
                          Hello enlightened ones !!

                          I have been going through the light threads since long and have understood a lot, thanks to Doc, Sajjt, Abhijeet, Shreeni and many other enthusiasts. A lot has been said and done about HIDs, but no one was looking at LED options. I was doing some googling on my own, and I came across some lighting options in LED that can be viable for bikes. Unfortunately, these might be very costly in India or may not be available at all... Meanwhile, you all can have a look at the links that I am posting :

                          A Hayabusa with a modified headlight :
                          Latest Project - Hayabusa Motorcycle Headlight - LED - CandlePowerForums

                          The only Indian link I found for LED lights for automotive purposes :
                          WORLD CLASS LED PURE WHITE FOR AUTOMOBILES

                          Waiting for more enlightment :-)

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                          • #88
                            in mumbai i saw high powered torches with approximately 15-20 LEDS with a reflector for each... i think that can be used in the bikes with the reflectors...
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by hellraiSEr View Post
                              Hello enlightened ones !!

                              I have been going through the light threads since long and have understood a lot, thanks to Doc, Sajjt, Abhijeet, Shreeni and many other enthusiasts. A lot has been said and done about HIDs, but no one was looking at LED options. I was doing some googling on my own, and I came across some lighting options in LED that can be viable for bikes. Unfortunately, these might be very costly in India or may not be available at all... Meanwhile, you all can have a look at the links that I am posting :

                              A Hayabusa with a modified headlight :
                              Latest Project - Hayabusa Motorcycle Headlight - LED - CandlePowerForums

                              The only Indian link I found for LED lights for automotive purposes :
                              WORLD CLASS LED PURE WHITE FOR AUTOMOBILES

                              Waiting for more enlightment :-)
                              nice link ! i think leds at present can work best only for lo beam .those high power leds in that hayabusa cost a lot of money .plus we need to use heatsinks , constant current drivers, optics so they perform for a long time as these are sensitive to heat and current . at present Hid is best

                              did you try calling/ emailing that indian led link ?

                              see this 2010 prius with 2 led projector http://priuschat.com/news/the-2010-p...led-headlights
                              Last edited by Puneet1; 10-06-2010, 11:06 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post
                                nice link ! i think leds at present can work best only for lo beam .those high power leds in that hayabusa cost a lot of money .plus we need to use heatsinks , constant current drivers, optics so they perform for a long time as these are sensitive to heat and current . at present Hid is best

                                did you try calling/ emailing that indian led link ?

                                see this 2010 prius with 2 led projector The 2010 Prius: Standard vs LED Headlights | PriusChat
                                Hi Puneet..
                                No, I havent tried calling or emailing them. Would do as soon as I discover my requirements .
                                What you have pointed out is correct.. It would require heatsinks, optics and drivers.. But did u notice the output in lumens? It was about 700 lumens for the stock headlamp of the hayabusa, and it was more than 3000 in the modified one. And that too, with only 5 LEDs.. Agreed, it can't be used as high beam, but as low beam, it would do wonders.. Even if we were not to replace the low beam and use it instead of the pilot lamps, we would still get a good output .. Besides, CREE has some distributors in India itself... So, the LEDs, optics and heatsinks might be available in India itself.. Check out www.cree.com

                                And yes, HID + projector is undisputed as of now because of its immense value for money. I just wanted to bring such high power LEDs to everyone's notice...

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