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  • ^^ So true. That is what impressed me! Then again, Uni coil is kept immersed in hot engine oil. So, quality has to be good else it will go kaput.
    Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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    • Originally posted by lakhanironak View Post
      hi everyone. i just bought a new HID kit for my fazer'06. its the chinese one, 8000k with High (xenon) and Low (halogen).

      Dude, u made a wrong choice in case of the bulb temp as the 8K is just for showoff not good in lighting especially in rain and fogs. U feel like as if u r with a candle light in these weathers. Even am with a 6k facing similar issues, much better than 8k but the things will be slightly worse for u. As its not installed, I advice if its possible, better get it changed to lower k such as 4.3-5K as its the best. Or u want to do a road show and make urself a cop magnet stick to the 8K

      Im confused regarding the relays. Where do i get the two relays required for the high and low beam from ? What will the rating be ? Sorry I havent used relays ever, and I have no idea regarding this. I understand that this is meant for the protection self starter and the switchgear.

      Abhi answered to relay sourcing procedure. If its confusing, its better to get it done by a auto electrician as wrong connection can messup the whole wiring and endup harness smoking.

      Nothing to do with the starter as its got a better relay for the starter. Its for the switches.

      Also I will have to route the current coming from the coil to the battery for the charging, I have understood the circuit for the rectifier and will design it bymyself. I had confusion about the housing for the rectifier circuit and the placement of the heatsink. Do u need to connect any wiring to the heatsink ?
      Is there any readymade rectifier which can be used ?

      From ur queries, I think its better to go for readymade RR replacement rather than 'designing another RR by urself' So no worries about the other issues like wiring to the heatsink. As such no heatsink wiring is required and a max of heatsink will be botled to chassis to get the ground. U can use APE RR for this purpose.

      I will get the wiring diagram for my bike from the showroom soon.

      Earlier in the thread there was discussion regarding the use of a single diode instead of the whole rectifier setup. What is conclusion to this
      ?
      That setup is not sufficient for this mod.
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      • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
        ^^ So true. That is what impressed me! Then again, Uni coil is kept immersed in hot engine oil. So, quality has to be good else it will go kaput.
        Immersed in Engin oil? Will a hot engine oil make any harm to the coil insulations?
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        • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
          Immersed in Engin oil? Will a hot engine oil make any harm to the coil insulations?
          Apparently it does not. I guess its for cooling purposes. Even TVS bikes follow the same design, I guess.
          Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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          • Sajan - Alright sir, i got it. But actual problem which i couldn't convey u properly was "The Pulse Generator". Even there its getting grounded.

            Abhi told me to use different wire to pull out from coil. I shall do that next weekend

            Yup what I told was Ammeter reading. I shall buy Digital Multimeter soon. I thought its more than 500rs

            Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
            Apparently it does not. I guess its for cooling purposes. Even TVS bikes follow the same design, I guess.
            The whole coil wont be in OIL, only half the compartment will be filled with oil

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            • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
              Sajan - Alright sir, i got it. But actual problem which i couldn't convey u properly was "The Pulse Generator". Even there its getting grounded.

              Abhi told me to use different wire to pull out from coil. I shall do that next weekend

              Yup what I told was Ammeter reading. I shall buy Digital Multimeter soon. I thought its more than 500rs



              The whole coil wont be in OIL, only half the compartment will be filled with oil
              Whats the effect of Pulse coil is grounded Shreeni? All pulse coils one wire is gnded and the other wire is going to CDI, but thats nothing to do with alt coils as its seperate right?

              Eventhough I couldnt follow it, Good to hear that u found something. Waiting for the results.

              I wont say to use another wire to feed the RR, as ur casing is with oil, can mess up with oil leak. Try to stick to the stock wires.

              While doing these mods a digi mm is highly recemended cause its easy to use, precise and cheap too. Ammeter wont show the charging rates so dont depend on it for the test. U can use it for the showoffs

              I would rather suggest u to go for a bar LED battery indicator just like the battery graph in the cell phones. Very easy to assemble, am planning one but time is the main constraint. Its cool to know that how much charge is remaining in the capacitor under ur belly (OOps I mean seat)

              Man, we all know that almost all indian bikes are consuming only 1-1.3 lts of engine oil, which will be almost half of the crank case will be filled with oil and while on running its getting bathed fully and so is ur coils too hopefully.
              Last edited by sajjt; 12-07-2009, 05:33 PM.
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              • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                Whats the effect of Pulse coil is grounded Shreeni? All pulse coils one wire is gnded and the other wire is going to CDI, but thats nothing to do with alt coils as its seperate right?
                The same Green wire from Coil is taken to Pulse Generator to ground it. So if remove Ground from Coil, it is getting grounded in Pulse Generator. Hope its clear now

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                • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                  The same Green wire from Coil is taken to Pulse Generator to ground it. So if remove Ground from Coil, it is getting grounded in Pulse Generator. Hope its clear now
                  Oops, then u can make use of it by cutting that wire to the pulsar coil. Since its grounded, there is no need of another grounding I hope. Try it. I've done the same thing in my coil, grounding was common with a black wire to Ign coil and the light coil. I just isolated the light coil and fed the black wire to the coil. Ign coil is grounded and its getting the gnd from the chassis.
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                  • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                    Oops, then u can make use of it by cutting that wire to the pulsar coil. Since its grounded, there is no need of another grounding I hope. Try it. I've done the same thing in my coil, grounding was common with a black wire to Ign coil and the light coil. I just isolated the light coil and fed the black wire to the coil. Ign coil is grounded and its getting the gnd from the chassis.
                    Thing is that the same black/green wire is grounded at many other points too on the bike. Best is to use another wire.
                    Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                    • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                      Thing is that the same black/green wire is grounded at many other points too on the bike. Best is to use another wire.
                      Abhi, once we cut the wire from the pulse coil, its isolated from everywhere except to the alt coil. Shreeni told me that for alt coil there is a seperate socket to the RR, so once we cut the gnd from the Pcoil, its isolated, I've done the same.
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                      • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                        Apparently it does not. I guess its for cooling purposes. Even TVS bikes follow the same design, I guess.

                        Oil immersion is for cooloing as well as providing insulation between turns same as in transformers

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                        • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                          Abhi, once we cut the wire from the pulse coil, its isolated from everywhere except to the alt coil. Shreeni told me that for alt coil there is a seperate socket to the RR, so once we cut the gnd from the Pcoil, its isolated, I've done the same.
                          No, in case of Pulsar, the same wire is connected to the frame too. So you still get GND. Have you measured resistance between this wire and GND? Try it out and see. If you are still not convinced, I can post wiring diagram of Pulsar here.
                          Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                          • Suppose if I wish to put a 100/130w bulb then should I change the wiring harness to thicker ones or will the stock wires handle the load ??

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                            • Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                              Suppose if I wish to put a 100/130w bulb then should I change the wiring harness to thicker ones or will the stock wires handle the load ??
                              I've tried a 90/100W on stock wires for a few months but when changed to higher guage slight change was there. U go for a relay too with the extra wires will save ur switch as well as more power than the stock wires. Done the coil winding?

                              Here's my projector mod with all details
                              Last edited by sajjt; 12-11-2009, 04:10 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                                I've tried a 90/100W on stock wires for a few months but when changed to higher guage slight change was there. U go for a relay too with the extra wires will save ur switch as well as more power than the stock wires. Done the coil winding?

                                Here's my projector mod with all details
                                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/desi-bik...tml#post343472
                                Not yet done bro, tomoro will open up the coil. Saturday na
                                I already have relays so that shouldn't be a problem but am worried about wiring if I put 100/130w. Anyways will check tomoro

                                I saw that thread of yours, that meaty.

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