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Bro though im not tht experienced but i would like to give in my suggestion here as i had the same problem a year ago....i have a HH Super splendor 2004 (without self) i was bored with the light as it just wasnt enough...so i decided i firstly installed tht blue bulb but it was of no good....then i decided i want a HID on it so i went to a local shop....then i got a hid installed on my bike by using the dc relay setup(no idea how it is done as same is in my aache 180 too) then when i was back on the way to home after runin 2k kms with hid i pressed the horn and the problem started the hid stopped while horn was operatiing and the other time the horn got killed......then i went to the same shop next day....he told me to upgrade the battery so i went on with his suggestion and installed a minda 9Ah maintanence free(dry) battery... the installation needed the cutting of the batt holder but it was afterwards tied with 2 metal strips .....then the mech told me tht the problem was solved and believe me it was solved...... then i used to ride it for 2-3 hours with hid on and no problem was there and my horn installed was roots windtone.....both were easy to use at night so i would say try this at it dosent costs much

Hid 6000k- 800rs
Minda battery- 1500
labour- 200 rs

Thank you for information . But is your stock super splendour alternator & RR able to maintain 9 AH battery charged ? & can you please give some wiring details or photo of dc conversion done by mechanic . Here i talked with some they say just give a connection from battery directly to headlight . They have no idea about dc conversion .

Putting bigger battery just gives better back up. But end of the day, battery needs to be charged sufficiently to keep the HID running.

@Utkarsh - Try riding for 3 hours on 2 consecutive days without riding the bike during day time.

There is no way you can run a 55w Halogen or 55w HID without rewinding the coil. Even if you rewind, for the passion coil I guess the max you can use is 35w HID which is more than sufficient for a Passion.

For ZMR if you want put a 55w HID

For my setup it was able to handle it as i rode for around 3 hrs during daytime and around 2 hrs in the night tht too in traffic of a place like patna.....i say tht on the stock charging setup u can run hid for atleast 2 hrs in the night......

and regarding the photo sorry bro i cant upload them now as the bike is still in patna and i have come to pathankot and got my menace....

1.Thts why i mentioned the riding time with Hid on as i knw the charging aint good and my aim was to just tell him my "Jugaad"

2.I knw it wont work but as i said its enough for 2-3 hrs riding with hid in normal conditions(i.e bike is ridden during day too)

3.Minw was a 35 wat 8000k Moto Hid (chinese ones) cost was just 800rs 1 year back

Today i was in Hero Moto ASC for my ZMR servicing . Talked with the workshop manager on this thing making Passion complete DC . He is kind enough shown me wiring diagram of HH bikes . I took snaps of HeroHonda Passion Plus wiring Diagram ( No HH Passion Wiring Diagram available there ) & others . Passion+ wiring diagram is as in this image .



Sorry for quality its my Nokia C7 HD Snap.


Thank's bro , dropping 55w HID . So without rewinding just using a RR like ape or GC1000 can 35 w HID will run ?
Or if i use a Karizma or Karizma ZMR RR is it gonna work ?
Is there any complete DC Bike RR which can maintain battery voltage ? Like charge it when low & cut charging when full .
& How much Voltage & Current should be excepted from RR to battery ?

Ok bro so it mean the charging period is require more than load period . ( 3 hour charging , 2 hour HID lighting . )

@above all, Sorry for the late reply

Like Shree said u've to compromise with a 35W HID max with the three pole coil. U can expect a max of 5A out of this puny coil.

Typical HH Splendor lighting coil:



Being the current generation is limited, u don't've to go for APE RR, instead u can use Pulsar UG4 RR which can push 5A and its more cheaper than APE RR (Rs 400/ approx) I don't think after rewinding it will give much difference as with a single coil, it wont take much thicker coil, so the low rpm drives will strain the battery I would say try with the stock coil after isolating the grounding and feed it to the new RR and check for the charging rates. (Make sure that all three coils are not splitted for lighting and charging) If its lower than 4A, try to source a spare coil and rewind that and check for the improvement. Try with the next thicker size from the stock winding so that it will take almost near to the stock turns.

There are mechanics who are simply putting the HID on the battery which is not enough for feeding a HID, it may run for some time, but remember u can't drive in high rpms always. Low battery will flicker HID which will lessen its life span. If u r planning to go for HID, upgrade the battery as well as ur coil is just near to the required rates, so chances are more to fry it in no time.

When going for DC conv, its always good to route the wires separate than depending on the stock loom as there can be internal tappings in that.

Do not settle with a cheaper kit as it will not last long, invest in 1.5-2K range kit which will offer 1 year peace of mind and more than that cheaper kit will sip the battery juice faster.

Also do not go for HID+Halo combo as the halogen will be normally of 55W which is again another battery eater and its hard to get a 35W halogen replacement. Each time when u swap the beam, the ballast will take more current and will worse the battery condition and many are disappointed with this combo as the sudden change of low/high:HID to halo low/high will litterally blind u for a few secs which is very dangerous.

bro sorry to interupt but i would plzz like to tell u tht all the chinese hid's in market are of the same company(motohid) and the only differences are bulb type and temperature....the thing i got for 800 1 year back now costs a 1.5 k in the market and yes the hid on my ss has been runing fit and fine for the last 1.3 years without even a single prob...tht too on stock charging can u plzz tell me more abt this

Does this bold letters convey anything more out of specs

Its just common sense for a lay man to understand that there's no monopoly in most of the products manufactured in China by seeing the variety of brands. I would say its time for u to update about market, u can see many brands operating here ranging from 700 onwards. Do u believe good things will come cheap? I dont think so.

I must say that u r lucky to have a kit that lasted for more than 1yr for the price u bought, some kits will last longer than we expect but mostly wont survive to the deadline which is after a few months of warranty period. U are blessed with a special bike too as others r running for other alternates bcz of insufficient charging on the stock conditions. Never had a HH till date so can't comment on this. All I can say is HH stock battery is just a 2.5AH which is meant for puny horn, indicator,brake light and neutral so max charging current rate required is 1A max. 9AH battery by stock comes with a charging rate of 3-4A by default unless its a full DC. Thats why I said its very special. Would appreciate if u could post ur charging rates.

In China, HID industry is just like a cottage industry, few companies are manufacturing the HID capsules and that's being distributed widely for these small scale manufacturers and these small companies will assemble the ballast and wiring harness and market it as a kit. If u can assure them for 1000 pcs, they will brand it on ur name. Had some serious discussions with some of the HID manufacturers 2-3 years back for importing the same, the competetion was very tough and each and every one was offering some extra units or extra warranty period etc for getting the order.

HID prices had fallen drastically year by year due to the flooding of new brands, I brought my first kit for 5K with 1 year warranty (not pair) 3 years back and till day its fine, and I strongly belive that its bcz of its quality. Same brand u can get with 1 year warranty for 1.5K now. But still, reputed companies are still reaping the premium, P8 kit is still 6500/ for a pair which was 8K 3 years back. Osram/Philips were 12K and now its become 7-8K for a pair. Hope this will give u some idea about what I meant.

Thank you for the reply

Will open the coil aread & post its pictures . Dropping both 55 watt hid & Ape rr from my list , so it would be 35 watt hid with a p180 RR , but bro i think the battery in pulsars are of 9 ah , so its rr is giving some more current & i think after cutting the bracket i can fit atmost battery of 6 amp in passion ( considering no rewinding of coil ), so is that be good to use a rr from Karizma-R or ZMR as they have 6ah battery so it would provide limited charging current to battery & no worry about it being frying out .

for HID i will go for H4 bixenon type 3 , so no halo+hid combo & i am trying to get info about philips or osram single motorcycle HID H4 but all i found are pair for cars . Any info on that ?

ohke i respect ur knowledge abt hid's and totally agree with u but my only point was to tell u tht the hid's ranging between 800 to 1.5 k are the same type of hid's and come without any warranty...isnt it.... and one more thing im surely lucky to have tht ss which could handle roots horns, hid and some bling bling under the tank..

And i would also like to mention tht ....when i had fixed all these things i didnt have even tht much knowlegde tht which size the stock battery is so i did totally on the mechanic's risk.

bro this answer is just for the bold text

tht u can easily fix a 9ah battery in there coz both passion and ss have the same battery it feels tht it wont fit , but i will fit try it once and the best and cheapest battery to have is MINDA Or Amaron (maintenance free) they cost rs 1.5k