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    Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
    Don't know if this i..................... required. . .
    If you are choosing between a mobile camera and a p&s. Let me tell you no matter how many mega pixel you get in mobile, it will be of no use if they dont put a good sensor in it. MP is only useful while printing out the pics and believe me for A3 size print 8MP is enough. All the apps/edits that one gets with mobile camera are just marketing gimmick. There is no substitute for "real camera"

    Now coming to you choice, in entry level stick to Nikon/Canon/Sony...anything that has got high ISO limit and little bit of more optical zoom, but again that optical zoom would add grains when used to the maximum level and if you are into video, Full HD/HD video recording.

    Every cam now comes with Li-Ion battery so you are safe for atleast 400-500clicks
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    • Re: Photography and Critique

      Originally posted by snehithpereira View Post
      Me no expert but if I can add my two cents over here, I would suggest since you are willing to spend 10k on the camera put another 1k and go for the nikon L820.

      No doubt the IXUS 510 is a great piece of equipment but as you get accustomed to it and photography in general you shall find it to be a little underwhelming, you shall hope for things that it won't be capable of, hence I suggested the L820 as it is cost effective and will prove to be a great companion till you upgrade to a DSLR.

      Just my opinion, wait for what others have to say
      extra 1k wouldn't be problem , also how will be to take pics during dark or at least say in the evening, low light to be precise . . ? Is it okay to get it from online. . ?

      Cheers!!!

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      Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
      If you are choosing between a mobile camera and a p&s. Let me tell you no matter how many mega pixel you get in mobile, it will be of no use if they dont put a good sensor in it. MP is only useful while printing out the pics and believe me for A3 size print 8MP is enough. All the apps/edits that one gets with mobile camera are just marketing gimmick. There is no substitute for "real camera"

      Now coming to you choice, in entry level stick to Nikon/Canon/Sony...anything that has got high ISO limit and little bit of more optical zoom, but again that optical zoom would add grains when used to the maximum level and if you are into video, Full HD/HD video recording.

      Every cam now comes with Li-Ion battery so you are safe for atleast 400-500clicks
      Please let me know the precise name of that camera so that it would be useful, also mention pricing as well, also answer the latest queries too , thanks. . .

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      • Re: Photography and Critique

        For low light see the max aperture value (f stop) in the specs. In your price range most of the cams would have ~f3.3. Ofcourse for low light shooting you would need a tripod or some stable support or if you bump up the iso then shutter speed would become manageable but noise would increase. Gain some lose some..
        Dont expect too much from cams in this price bracket.

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        and buying online would pose no problem as such but it would be good to handle the camera in hands before buying.
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        • Re: Photography and Critique

          Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
          extra 1k wouldn't be problem , also how will be to take pics during dark or at least say in the evening, low light to be precise . . ? Is it okay to get it from online. . ?

          Cheers!!!

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          Please let me know the precise name of that camera so that it would be useful, also mention pricing as well, also answer the latest queries too , thanks. . .

          Cheers!!!
          For the starting price bracket I would still suggest the nikon L820 as I have used one extensively and I found it to be quite flexible on manual. If you go higher on the price take [MENTION=64585]g K[/MENTION]'s advice the sony bridge camera are really good.

          Coming to low light, invest in good tripod, try making your own remote shutter release and leave your worries, atleast for the basic stuff (forget star trails on a PnS)

          Have a look at the product in real play around with it and then if you get a better price online go ahead and order it from there. I recently ordered my new DSLR from Snapdeal as they had some offer going on. No issues whatsoever with delivery & handling
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          • Re: Photography and Critique

            Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
            Can you tell me what's a good camera to start off with for photography. . ?
            4. Do you think I am right in the above, like is there any other alternatives like should I buy a less expensive phone and get a better camera, seriously not in my list but still . . ?
            5. Expert opinion required. . .
            P.S - Expert opinion would be provided by them only. Here's my experience:

            Buy what matters you more! You need a phone, get that first. Don't compromise with either!
            I still shoot with a P&S! Sony DSC HX100V.

            Buying a 10k phone is enough IMO, giving you 15k for a decent P&S, but if later you feel bad about the phone then the whole exercise is pointless.
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            • Re: Photography and Critique

              Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
              Please let me know the precise name of that camera so that it would be useful, also mention pricing as well, also answer the latest queries too , thanks. . .

              Cheers!!!
              I was in the same situation about a couple of weeks ago.. Hehe.. Chat khaya maine inhe..
              Nikon l820 is really good.. Used it for a few mins in the shop.. Not that big, feels good in the hand.. And also look at sony dsc300.. Same price..

              i almost went ahead with l820.. But my bro has promised to give some more ₹₹₹ after winter.. Hehe.. Gonna get a dslr then..

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              • Re: Photography and Critique

                Seriously going anywhere forward, think am a completely noob here so please all explain in as basic language as possible. . .
                [MENTION=64585]g K[/MENTION] please be more precise bro, seriously am new to this and don't know much about it , so that's the reason asking for help, BTW what would be the price tag for sony bridge camera. . ?
                [MENTION=37862]snehithpereira[/MENTION] Nikon L820 OK SIR, that's one to the list. . . I see that Tripod is a stand like something in basic language for photography, how will that help better in low light photography. . ?
                [MENTION=41586]Divya Sharan[/MENTION] indeed that's what I thought for few days, so thought presently I'll buy a phone I like, it's having 8MP, Sony Xperia L, liked it a lot, . . So just little time after that, will go for this camera, possibly next month or so, till then will be shooting with that of the mobile . . . Bro seriously you shoot in a PnS :O. . ? Those pics look great mann, can't believe though. . .
                [MENTION=60608]nadz11.ns[/MENTION] ok then listening to all, I guess I should choose something between Nikon L820 or Sony DSC300 right. . ? Checked out the pricing and it's almost like 14-15k range, . . So will start saving up for that as well and get one soon . . .

                Again guys, don't feel bad , thank you all. . .

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                • Re: Photography and Critique

                  Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                  [MENTION=37862]snehithpereira[/MENTION] Nikon L820 OK SIR, that's one to the list. . . I see that Tripod is a stand like something in basic language for photography, how will that help better in low light photography. . ?
                  Okay here it goes:

                  Like you said tripod is a stand in simple inglis what this stand does is, it holds the camera steady and doesn't budge ( never go for those cheap/super light, ones that they give for free ). So basically you compose your shot while mounted on the tripod and then your hands are free.

                  1. How does this help low light photography?
                  Ans: when a subject is shot in low light, to capture the image properly the shutter needs to be open for a little longer to get all the light/details. During the period that your shutter is open the camera shouldn't move, for that matter nor should the subject (unless you are capturing light trails) the moment the camera moves there is severe blurring, the use of a tripod greatly prevents this. However there is a tendency for the camera to shake even when hitting the click button hence I also suggested the remote release but this is something you can consider much later.

                  About your query about bridge cameras, almost all advanced point and shoot cameras fall under the category of bridge as they literally do what their name suggests, unlike your compact point and shoots these bridge cameras give you more ( almost dslr like) freedom in manual mode (manual mode is paradise for a photographer)

                  The sony H300 costs 14.5 - 15
                  The L820 should cost 13.5 - 14

                  The HX100V is an awesome PnS, unfortunately not available anymore.

                  Hope all this helped
                  Last edited by snehithpereira; 11-06-2013, 11:52 PM.
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                  • Re: Photography and Critique

                    1. Divya Sharan's cam Sony HX100V is a bloody good camera..It has a few successors in market now but it is really good. If you can find it pick it up eyes closed, period!
                    Going further Sony HX300V is the best you can get which is not a DSLR. BUT its pretty out of your budget. So, chuck it.
                    Bridge cams start from ~15K I guess.

                    2. If you are going to buy a camera anyways, do not choose the mobile based on its camera specs. Get a Nokia Lumia 520, its 5MP camera without a flash is certainly better than Xperia L's. On another note, dont go for any Xperia L//P/Q/R/S/T! The display is pretty bad - TFT.

                    3. How will a tripod help better in low light photography?
                    Answer- When shooting in low light the camera needs more light to expose your pic sufficiently so that it does not turn out black. So to get that ample amount of light it adjusts the shutter speed accordingly. Which means that the camera shutter will be open for a relatively longer time. Thus it will lead to BLUR due to hand shake. Thus tripod prevents that.

                    4. Since you are planning to invest your hard earned money in a camera, I suggest start little reading on the concepts which ultimately will help you make a good decision as well as make the most out of it.



                    PS: I dont think theres any "Sony DSC300". If you meant HX300V, it is awesome!

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                    Ok you guys meant Sony H300. Dont! It has Sony G Lens, BAD!!! Consider only those Sony cams that have Carl Zeiss lens.
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                    • Re: Photography and Critique

                      Originally posted by g K View Post
                      1. Divya Sharan's cam Sony HX100V is a bloody good camera..It has a few successors in market now but it is really good. If you can find it pick it up eyes closed, period!
                      Going further Sony HX300V is the best you can get which is not a DSLR. BUT its pretty out of your budget. So, chuck it.
                      Bridge cams start from ~15K I guess. As said above, guess it's better to stick with bridge cams, . .

                      2. If you are going to buy a camera anyways, do not choose the mobile based on its camera specs. Get a Nokia Lumia 520, its 5MP camera without a flash is certainly better than Xperia L's. On another note, dont go for any Xperia L//P/Q/R/S/T! The display is pretty bad - TFT. That's the main doubt I have been having till now, many do comment the same, when sony was a partner with Walkman and Cybershot, the camera quality were the best and indeed it's true as my present sony w705 can take pics nearly close to some 5mp, compared with other brands. . . So, that's what is confusing me, I like it, main usage is photography in that but in the same way, doubting about it's camera. . . One of my friend suggest Lumia 720 but they say that windows ain't that user friendly, so is there something which I would like around 18-19k or less . . ? The thing is presently I won't be doing that kind of night rides, as there are lots of beautiful places in and around Mysore, so after that let me see. . .

                      3. How will a tripod help better in low light photography?
                      Answer- When shooting in low light the camera needs more light to expose your pic sufficiently so that it does not turn out black. So to get that ample amount of light it adjusts the shutter speed accordingly. Which means that the camera shutter will be open for a relatively longer time. Thus it will lead to BLUR due to hand shake. Thus tripod prevents that. Yup got that point and what would be the pricing for that. . ? Saw in flipkart or so, it starts from around 1.5k, is it the right price, also any specific brand. . ?

                      4. Since you are planning to invest your hard earned money in a camera, I suggest start little reading on the concepts which ultimately will help you make a good decision as well as make the most out of it. That's what am most confused here which one which one which one ???



                      PS: I dont think theres any "Sony DSC300". If you meant HX300V, it is awesome!

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                      Ok you guys meant Sony H300. Dont! It has Sony G Lens, BAD!!! Consider only those Sony cams that have Carl Zeiss lens.
                      Answers in bold and thanks for sparing your time. . .
                      [MENTION=37862]snehithpereira[/MENTION] thanks for you too mate, not to forget your basic inglish understanding . . . So, first soon after I get my cell phone, will start saving up for camera and then tripod. . .

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                      • Re: Photography and Critique

                        @Rakesh Rok

                        Didnt really get your comment on point 2..you are going to buy a new phone for main usage of photography?

                        Tripod- Get the most basic/entry level one from a good brand and that should be sufficient for you.

                        Android vs Windows..endless debate..Android seems much simpler at first look since it has the ever popular GRID based UI. Windows on the other hand is a bit different from the regular stuff so less seen and thus less preferred. But those who have used, say that it is nicely customizable and once you get a hang of it, it is pretty user friendly.

                        PS: I own neither of the two!
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                        • Re: Photography and Critique

                          Originally posted by g K View Post
                          @Rakesh Rok

                          Didnt really get your comment on point 2..you are going to buy a new phone for main usage of photography?

                          Tripod- Get the most basic/entry level one from a good brand and that should be sufficient for you.

                          Android vs Windows..endless debate..Android seems much simpler at first look since it has the ever popular GRID based UI. Windows on the other hand is a bit different from the regular stuff so less seen and thus less preferred. But those who have used, say that it is nicely customizable and once you get a hang of it, it is pretty user friendly.

                          PS: I own neither of the two!
                          Yup you got me right, main usage for photography, others like gaming, chatting , calls are all secondary. . . So need a decent cell phone, . . So what I have planned now is that I will get a lesser price tag one, anything like Xperia M is what I am preferring and with the remaining money that I wanted to put for xperia L, will invest that for a good camera and get any of the two, preferrably sony too here , sony H300. . . Also doing a little research, found your all words right, so will try to invest for a better camera and lesser for a camera phone as year by year we often tend to get bored with this cellphones and they lose their value too , just like my walkman, just 2.5 years back, it was 17k and now it won't go even for 1k, so it's kinda waste I feel investing for a costlier as day by day the price goes down. . . What say. . ? Also do tell me what would be a simple or starting price for a tripod. . ?

                          PS: May be you don't own either but still you have a good knowledge about photography and cameras unlike me . . .

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                          • Re: Photography and Critique

                            Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                            Yup you got me right, main usage for photography, others like gaming, chatting , calls are all secondary. . . So need a decent cell phone, . . So what I have planned now is that I will get a lesser price tag one, anything like Xperia M is what I am preferring and with the remaining money that I wanted to put for xperia L, will invest that for a good camera and get any of the two, preferrably sony too here , sony H300. . . Also doing a little research, found your all words right, so will try to invest for a better camera and lesser for a camera phone as year by year we often tend to get bored with this cellphones and they lose their value too , just like my walkman, just 2.5 years back, it was 17k and now it won't go even for 1k, so it's kinda waste I feel investing for a costlier as day by day the price goes down. . . What say. . ? Also do tell me what would be a simple or starting price for a tripod. . ?

                            PS: May be you don't own either but still you have a good knowledge about photography and cameras unlike me . . .

                            Cheers!!!
                            i think you should go for windows phone its haveing more gps apps(helps while traveling,works offline too) good camera better battry life than android and good for gaming too
                            the best part of windows phone is it never lags.....so i think you should go for lumia 620,720 whatever you like and if you want to go for andriod then xperia m or l but as you said camera is your main priority they dont have cameras as good as lumias have
                            i own both a xperia arc and lumia 620
                            starting price of tripod is around 700-800
                            Last edited by aaron_dagger; 11-08-2013, 06:50 PM.

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                            • Re: Photography and Critique

                              Originally posted by aaron_dagger View Post
                              i think you should go for windows phone its haveing more gps apps(helps while traveling,works offline too) good camera better battry life than android and good for gaming too
                              the best part of windows phone is it never lags.....so i think you should go for lumia 620,720 whatever you like and if you want to go for andriod then xperia m or l but as you said camera is your main priority they dont have cameras as good as lumias have
                              i own both a xperia arc and lumia 620
                              again that's the problem. . . Xperia M or Lumia 620. . . Will probably get it by next week or this weekend, some money pending. . . So will try it out myself there and choose between the two, again as I said if I wanted to go for xperia L which I liked, it's kinda not so good like a camera, so would invest that extra money (guess 5-6k) for a better camera itself which they all suggested, sony H300. . .

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                              • Re: Photography and Critique

                                Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                                again that's the problem. . . Xperia M or Lumia 620. . . Will probably get it by next week or this weekend, some money pending. . . So will try it out myself there and choose between the two, again as I said if I wanted to go for xperia L which I liked, it's kinda not so good like a camera, so would invest that extra money (guess 5-6k) for a better camera itself which they all suggested, sony H300. . .

                                Cheers!!!
                                im trying to get a lumia 820 in second market as i dont think spending for a new phone is better thing. price decrease is rapid for phones now.
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