Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

So I drove a Yamaha R15 v 2.0 for about 90-120 minutes over bad city roads with decent amount of traffic. Did not feel any pain in my upper shoulder. But I do feel pain when I drive my Activa 125. So it definitely is not the posture or the helmet. Though to be sure I will be replacing my helmet with a Carbon Fiber and then seeing what is happening.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

[QUOTE=s1d;1379826 i had experienced this pain in the arm due to a very tight cone-set/steering stem nut adjustment.
also make sure the tire pressure is correct.

put the bike up on center stand with the front wheel off the ground, and then push the handle bar to either side.. it should freely move either side with just a firm but gentle push and bounce off wee bit once it hits full lock either side.[/QUOTE]

I tried this the handle moves freely on either side. I went back to the doctor and he told me that on average in a week he see's atleast 2-3 patients who drive scooters who experience this problem. He said something about the very stiff suspension of the activa as well as its tyres being too small for the cause of this. I have driven an Bajaj Eliminator on the same route and I did not face a problem with my shoulders. I am now tyring to hire Yamaha Frazer drive it for a few days on the same route and then observe so as to eliminate that it is not the road or style of driving that is the cause of the problem. Will update this thread later on.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

not me, and i haven't heard such complaints (considering the millions of activas out there)
one thing that might cause discomfort is if the cone-set adjustment is too tight.. this puts strain on your arms since you need to put more effort to keep the vehicle pointing in the direction you want it to. i had experienced this pain in the arm due to a very tight cone-set/steering stem nut adjustment.
also make sure the tire pressure is correct.

put the bike up on center stand with the front wheel off the ground, and then push the handle bar to either side.. it should freely move either side with just a firm but gentle push and bounce off wee bit once it hits full lock either side.

and maybe visit a doctor/physiotherapist and get yourself checked up. sometimes it might be as simple as the muscles not being used for a long time and suddenly you give them work.. like in my case now, where i haven't been riding my duke much and mostly using the Dio , but when i take the duke out on a long ride (Say 100+ km) i get a light pain in the thigh on the left leg (the duke having a slightly rear set foot pegs).. its simply due to lack of exercise for those set of muscles.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

I have recently started experiencing upper shoulder pain when I drive my Activa for more than 15-20 minutes. The pain lingers on after I stop driving the scooter. On the days that I do not drive the scooter this does not occur. Has anyone faced the similar problem?

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

ASC service guys like this. They don't do the work properly. After buying bike or scooter ,even if u are going to paid service ,they deal the customer very badly.
Even they create a work sheet. They don't do anything on it. Just wash , change oil , change some unnecessary parts(replace may be only in bill) and return the bike. This is the general procedure they are doing. So better option is servicing with an outside mechanic with good quality spares. Good quality not mean by genuine.
Now a days genuine parts quality is low and cost is a bomb.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

This happened to me too. my scooter had done something like 7500 kms and I had taken it to the Tansi Honda, Hoodi, Bangalore Service Center. There the service engineer came to me and said that the battery looks like it has become weak and needs to be replaced. I told him point blank that do not change the battery, I will get it changed outside. Since that day I have not been asked for battery replacement. Without checking the battery charging or the specific acidity of the battery I was shocked at what I heard. On top of that battery dying at 7500 kms is unheard off.
These authorized Honda Service centers are out to loot their customers. I would not be surprised that they have a quota that out of X customers 75% have to be sold new parts.

This is strange I have already gotten my scooter serviced every 3 months and much before the 2500 kms got completed. And two times the break pads were replaced. So I do not think it is a worn out pad, it looks like bad workmanship and a tendency to loot their customers.



I have heard that Honda Vehicles had a higher operating cost then their competitors. I have now experienced it first hand. And I am thoroughly disappointed with the product, with the after-sales service and with the Honda company. I am just waiting for Yamaha to come out with NMAX. If this scooter continues to drain my wallet like this, then I would definitely shift to a competitor or to E-Scooter from Ather whichever comes first. Two of my family members are going to buy scooters for their family members, I am going to make sure that they do not buy a Honda vehicle.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

most of the service centers these days simply want to replace parts and make more money.. that is how it is. many customers without fair knowledge about their vehicles who leave the bike for service end up paying for such unnecessary stuff. brake pads are one of the most common things they simply ask one to change and most customers fall for it, and sometimes rotors too.
heard a situation from one of our members [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] , where he came across a poor chap who had the rotor on his cbr replaced a couple of times during general service because he was told so.

without inspecting the rotor it is difficult to say if it requires replacement (most likely it wont under normal use). as another person explained, if it was ridden with worn out pads, the metal to metal contact would have damaged the rotor.

Other wise, you would mostly just require a good brake service (caliper overhaul, clean the pads with sand paper, new fluid, bleeding out the line). Worse maybe a caliper or master cyl rebuild for which kits are available for a couple hundred bucks.

wear depends on use & misuse.
the brake isn't engaged all the time.. only when you use it.
and scooters are usually ridden slower and braking not as aggressive as say a chum on a 150cc bike , so ideally it should last much longer.. probably the life of the scoot.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

scooter tyres has more rotations than bike's tyre due to small size {12" compared with 17",18" & even 19"} .
which in turn makes more wear & tear of corresponding parts . so i think 25k km for a rotor is enough life . I have seen yamaha ray zr rotor change as early as 10k km .

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Even with a 70/30 front to rear brake usage, the plates will last the life of the bike or a decade easily. Lines on the plate are normal. If the brake is extensively used with worn-out pads, that may cause a deeper etching mark and may lose some effectiveness. There are disc brakes everywhere nowadays, compare it visually yourself. Bleed the brake fluid once a year, change pads as per usage, yourself if you can. That's all the focus it usually needs. The techs will make their stories, if you don't feel confident of their explanation, they are faking it till they make it.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

My scooter has run 12000 kms and the Honda service engineer has suggested a change. And he has said the thickness of the Disc Rotor has decreased and there are lines on the Disc rotor. When I asked him and his supervisor on what is the frequency of such a change they did not have any answer. There was an issue with the braking in which the front brake had become hard.

Basically I a very disappointed with Honda, its product and its service center. This scooter cost me more to maintain than my 4-wheeler over the past 12 months. Sometimes I get a sense that it was a mistake to have bought this scooter.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

on a scooter the rotor would pretty much last a very long time unless physically damaged like in an accident or used incorrectly (like riding with the brake lever pressed) which might cause over heating and eventually warping.
25k km/4yrs is too early imo under normal use.. i'd say at least twice that should be possible.

just curious, why do you ask ? any issues with the braking ?

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

I will let others answer you but 25000 kms or 4 years appears a little early for me for normal use.

Also, in general a bike/scooter used in the city will require frequent replacements than a same model used for touring.

IIRC, Divya Sharan (tourer & moderator) replaced his ZMR's disc at a lakh kms while some riding their CBS Hornet 160R are complaining of early worn out discs at 25-30k kms.

Can you post a picture of the disc if possible? - just to see how worn it looks.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Thanks for the info. It is very hepful.

I have one more question, on an average when should we expect the Disc rotor or Disc plate to wear out, such that it requires replacement? Is it after 25000 kms or 4 years?

And a question to the wider audience, have you ever changed the Disc Brakes rotors, i.e. the metal Plate, on your Honda Vehicles? If yes what was the Odometer reading and what was the cause of the change of the Disc Brake rotor? I am not looking at the brake pads rather at the Disc Rotor or the Disc Metal Plate with the holes.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

1. There is no interval for changing brake discs.
2. One changes them if they are warped/bent or the minimum thickness falls below the limit mentioned on the disc itself (use a micrometer to measure).
3. The cost of Maestro 125 Fi's disc is 1065/- INR according to their catalogue. Honda being Honda, don't be surprised if it costs 1200-1400.
4. Since swapping of disc rotors is possible between Karizma and Hornet 160R (276 mm front and 220 mm rear); there is a possibility of swapping Maestro's 190 mm disc with Aviator's/Activa 125's 190 mm disc.
5. Both Hero and Honda source their discs from Yutaka (Jap Company).
6. When you replace the disc, make sure you replace all four bolts that hold it and add a semi-permanent thread locker to the bolts. The old bolts should not be re-used as they will be permanently "stretched" and will loosen often.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

What is the interval of changing of a Activa's Disc brake's Rotor or the metal plate? Has anyone changed it during the life of the scooter? If yes can you please give me the ballpark cost along with how much had the scooter run before changing the Disc Brake's Rotor. I am looking for approximate values and not exact ones.