Re: KTM 200 Duke

Got the issue resolved. The fuel pump got air in it. Just had to put fresh petrol and some shaking and multiple tries did it.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Considering the age and kays your bike has clocked, it's imperative that you replace your battery. 4 years is a decent life for stock battery. Since your fuel pump isn't priming and the starter motor not getting enough amps to crank the engine over is a prime indicator that your battery is end of its life. The false starts mean, your fuel injectors/fuel pump can't spray enough fuel as they need good battery voltage.

To your last point; yes you can jump start by tethering your bike, but make sure you use only 12v battery and do not start your car, as starting your car can fry your bike's battery and wiring. If possible use a battery of a motorcycle/battery for peace of mind if you're not sure how to do the procedure. And no, dhakka start won't work, since your fuel pump and injectors are dead, you'll only tire yourself making a push start in any gear.

Bottomline: 1. Replace the battery 2. Check the charging voltage at the battery terminals 3. Make sure your battery lugs are properly clamped. Should solve your problem.

Keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

You can jump start it. I did it when I was in similar situation and could not find another battery near by. The mechanic just touched the points of another battery to my existing battery terminals and it started. Though this is not the best option. You can remove the battery and charge it for an hour at nearest mechanic. Once your bike starts it won't stall in between. Suggest you buy buy another battery quickly. A faulty battery can affect electricals and you would not want to take that risk.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi guys, I am having a problem with my 2015 Duke 200 run 26k kms. It's refusing to start, the fuel pump is not priming on ignition and the start button is just making clicking noise whenever I press. The battery is factory one not changed yet. I used to get low battery signal sometimes but it would go away almost instantly or on turning ignition on - off.

The bike is stranded at my office, I rode it there at 12 pm, but it refuses to start at 7pm.

I was getting 1-2 false starts for the last two days but it just died yesterday.

If the fuel pump doesn't prime, I doubt if I can push start it in 2nd gear. Also, can I tether another bike's battery to start like we do in cars.

Re: KTM DUKE 200 not firing UP

Actually, when the light blinks 1 times followed by 5 is a roll over sensor circuit fault, potentially the sensor it at fault. I'd suggest you to count the blinks again, I presume it should be 1 long followed by 5 short which means roll over sensor is at fault. 16 as in one long and six short is a radiator fan motor diagnostic code. I'd suggest you check your roll over sensor, and recheck the could once again. Also you can view the codes at SVC using their diagnostic tool as it would show the faulty part. Keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM DUKE 200 not firing UP

better get it checked at the svc with their diag too, it will pin point the cause of the malfunction.
from the rc 390 manual, i came across these:

1 - 5 roll over sensor
1 - 6 radiator fan motor
6 short - throttle position sensor related
1 - 7 is lambda sensor related
1- 8 is engine diagnosis warning

KTM DUKE 200 not firing UP

hi there, its my first help post in XBHP family, i own a 2013 KTM duke 200. ridden around 18000 KM with a factory packed engine. i recently got its fuel pump changed due to the lack of power of the bike. after a day, i started to notice that the bike was automatically killing its RPM once i pass any obstacle on road IE. a speed breaker, next day, when i tried to fire up the engine. nothing happened. every digital part of my bike is working fine supposed to be, except engine itself, when am hitting the self switch, motor is doing its work but there is no movement in bike. i doubt that its the issue of roll over switch (tip over switch). because the day before i changed its fuel pump, bike was fallen down, and it didn't turned off itself until i didn't turned it off. can anyone guide me the location of roll over switch in my 2013 duke 200 ? and is it possible to start the bike after removing a roll over switch ?
also, when i am turning on my bike, i am getting engine light error (1 time long, followed by 6 short blinks)

Re: KTM 200 Duke

In short, they give you good throw, but fade under yellow light, i.e. street lights. White lights are also reduce stress on eyes compared to yellow halogens, and improve visibility. You can try Philips, Osram and those Chinese LEDs, they consume less power and offer more or less the same performance, wattage wise and offer decent life.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys, I'm thinking of changing the headlight and position lamp bulbs to white light bulbs. Which bulbs do you recommend?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

When the voltage is checked at the end of the terminals, the voltage should spike almost immediately as you twist the throttle and stay steady after a certain RPM, in this case 5000-5500 RPM. If you observe voltage increasing in increments, with the throttle open, your stator is toast. It's advisable to change the stator as soon as you can. A weak stator would put undue stress on the RR, which would in turn heat up and cause failure of the RR which is highly likely.

The top three to replace would be engine oil, coolant, and brake pads (considering the kays done) before you embark on your trip. Make sure, your wheel bearings both front and rear are in perfectly good shape. it's also advisable to carry a spare clutch cable, clutch lever and front brake lever and rear brake pedal. In case of a mishap, considering the fragile nature of these components, they can snap just like that even on a mild fall, be safe than sorry. Carry a can of engine oil of the grade used on the engine before the trip and a can of CHAIN LUBE.

On a thorough note, I'd suggest you inspect where your chain life markings are on the swingarm and take a wise decision. A chain that is on the end of life or is already on the end of life note can run out of breath riding on extreme conditions, so it's always advisable to chain kit along with the rear cush drive. Also, inspect clutch and throttle cables for right play and slack.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys, going to ladakh this year.
Any particular things i need to service before going.
Like particular parts to check/change.

ODO is around 26000. 4 Services(Free and Paid) done over all.
Stock chain sprocket, not sure about throttle body cleaning, whether it is done or not (Will ask SVC).
Changed Engine Head gasket couple of times because of oil leak.

TIA.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

yes it should, it will shoot up almost instantly. looks like the coil is gone for a toss.
and remember, without starting the bike the voltage of a good battery will be 12.6~12.9 V, at 5500rpm it will be approx 14.5V

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Checked the Resistance at the stator output terminals, the manual suggested the value should be less than or equal to 1 Ohm, and I got around 2 Ohms. The reading may be a multimeter error also.

Then checked the terminals of the output cable of the rectifier (2 core cable) and found white colour paste deposited on the terminals. Cleaned them with cloth and reinserted the connectors.

Then rechecked the battery voltage and this time the battery voltage was slowly increasing at rate of approx 0.02V per second at 7000 RPM. I held the revs till the voltage reached 13.3V then released the throttle.

Shouldn't the voltage increase the moment the engine is revved?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

With a properly working stator coil and rr unit, the voltage reading at 5500rpm should be around 14.5 V on a healthy battery (healthy battery stand alone voltage will be 12.6~12.9V). In your case it clearly is not shooting up above the 12.8V value. The RR unit usually doesn't go bad that early, most cases it is the stator coil.. you can check the resistance values as i mentioned earlier.
In such situations it is always easier to swap the battery / rr unit to perform checks. Since you already put in a new battery, try to swap the RR unit from another bike just to be sure it isn't the culprit.
If you let the new battery drain completely a few times it will impact it's life.. so go asap and get the coil (or rr) replaced, whichever is faulty. Am pretty sure it will be the coil.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Check your speedo; if the console behaves as normal after changing the battery, it's probably a low battery issue. After replacing the stator, the voltage at the terminals of the battery should be 13.5 to 15v, with the engine spinning around 5k RPM (the Duke 390 manual suggests the same) Nonetheless, the reading should't go beyond the specified voltage with the engine at that RPM. If the voltage exceeds the stated voltage, RR has to be replaced. A faulty RR always increases voltage reading at the battery ends and reduces the battery life dramatically. If the voltage remains the same, as the adage goes, all is well.

Keep your observations jotted.

Cheers!
VJ