Re: KTM 200 Duke

Thank you Hemanta. Do keep your 'detailed' observations posted here as well as in the Engine Oils thread.



Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Yes I just ordered online yesterday

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Indeed there is hype around the LiquiMoly and users from TeamBHP have reported quite good outcomes especially on a four wheeler. Well, the only way to know how good it fares on one's motorcycle is, well, get the right grade, use it and then post it here, so that we all know what its worth. LiquiMoly being a German brand and having good reviews in T-Bhp should say a thing or two about the oil's potential. Give it a try and post your reviews here, why not be the first.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Has anyone tried using the fancy new Liqui Moly engine oils? They're expensive compared to Motul but have heard that they're quite good, and there seems to be quite a lot of hype around them.?!

Re: KTM 200 Duke

According to this article, though ABS has been launched and with a lot of uncertainty around and add to it the KTM India website for the the 200 throwing up some error (probably site upgradation) the bike seems to have been launched with a dual-channel ABS system.

https://www.**********.com/two-wheel...kh-026935.html

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Yes it really needs ABS on both wheels, but sadly Bajaj-KTM have gone the profit making route and gone with the single channel ABS.

Here is side-by-side compare with the rear wheel of the 390 vs new 200, 200 is clearly missing the rear ABS sensor even though ABS ring is present

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Not sure what tire the little putter will have, we'll have to wait and watch. And about single-channel setup, it's highly unlikely that the motorcycle would come with a single channel, the Duke 200 deserves a dual channel, again which we have to wait and see. My gut hunch tells me it should be a dual-channel.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

So it's finally here, 2019 KTM Duke 200 with single channel ABS!

Going by the above 2 pics, the tyres seem to be Metzeler Sportec M5's!
Is the pic from International model? All websites are publishing the same pics. So, are the MRF's now replaced with Metz in this 2019 model along with adding ABS in this update?

If anyone has more information, please share the same.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

That's sad! What I'd suggest is, remove the console alone, if you can. Take it to the SVC, and if possible, try connecting the console of another bike's connector and see how it fares, if that's feasible. If it still doesn't budge, then we can consider a Plan B of sorts. But as long as your RPM, ODO, everything apart from shift light is working, why bother replacing it, let it be as it is and you can consider yourself an upgrade.

Nevertheless, keep your observations posted.


Special Edition perhaps!


Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

This morning again tried fidgeting around with the console, reset the service reminder a few times, changed km to miles and back to km, resetting the trip meters.. lo and behold ended up with sore finger tips while the rpm values refuse to budge.
will take apart more stuff next weekend and see how it goes.. planning to disconnect ecu, console, battery, fuses et all and put em back.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Like I said, the RPM1 and RPM2 values are both stuck at 12500 ..no idea how that happened. And they refuse to budge.
There can never be no bugs with these electronics and software... just that they haven't been discovered yet lol
If you read one of my earlier posts that I had linked you will see that i had described with pictures the rpm1/rpm2 values showing something like xx48.. which isn't normal or documented by ktm. Again no idea why that happened.
the svc guy said they have never seen this happen.. but had once seen the trip F value stuck and had to refuel the bike to get that back to working normal.
going to try and disconnect the stuff i mentioned earlier..see how it goes.. if not also get the DTC cleared using diag tool and see if that helps.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

This is new to me neither.

Now from my experience, the RPM 1 wouldn't go beyond a certain RPM if the RPM 2 is set to max.

MAX values from my bike RPM 1: 12450 for a Duke 390 and RPM 2: 12500. I've set my RPM 1 to 7500 and RPM 2 to 8500


RPM 1 and 2 cannot be set at 12500 for obvious reasons, as the RPM 2 should always be higher. If in fact, you're able to set both the RPM 1 and RPM 2 to the same value, your console must be acting weird. AFAIK, there ain't no bugs with the console. As even if you set the value of RPM 2 FIRST to your desired value, the value of RPM 1 will be automatically maxed out to the lower value than that of RPM 2. As at RPM 1 the light flashes and at RPM 2 the light stays steady.

If you're disconnecting the battery, the power supply to the entire motorcycle is nullfied, so removing fuses is unnecessary. Perhaps you can remove your console, a Zorrik treatment perhaps and then check if it works. May sound silly, but at least it's well worth the try.
Start off with resetting RPM 1 if you can. Do keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I am facing a peculiar behavior on the console.
The past few months I noticed that the shift light was not coming on.. i was too lazy to check why until today.
So today I checked the console for the rpm1 and rpm2 settings, and what i noticed was that both the values were at 12500 rpm. I then proceeded to change the values.. but wasn't able to. Following the procedure i.e. going into trip2 - holding down mode (or set) depending on rpm1 or rpm2 - and then using mode/set to change the values. The value wouldn't budge for either rpm1 or rpm2 and was 'stuck' at 12500 rpm. Tried disconnecting the battery, checked with the diag tool .. no go. The svc guys were also stumped and have never seen such behavior.
Later on probably I will again disconnect the battery, take out all the fuses, disconnect the console and put them back together and see how it goes.
And maybe also reset both trip meters, reset the service reminder as well.

The only change on the bike was a dying battery, which was changed earlier this week. The shift light though wasn't coming on ever prior to the battery change. Wonder if the low battery fiasco, caused this to happen. (I had described about the battery life/behavior a few posts ago)
The bike has no other issues and runs just fine..

Anybody faced such an issue ? Got a solution ?

And btw, the P220 rear brake pads are a direct fit on the D200.. the svc themselves told me this. Buggers did not have the brake pads in stock!


PS: anybody tried setting both rpm1 and rpm2 to the same value? what happens? maybe a bug with the console damn these electronics.

Interesting thing that i remembered which happened on my bike earlier:

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Well, it's okay to buy to the bike IF IT'S IN A good shape. But before that, I'd ask that you do a history check at the SVC for the given bike's number. Considering the bike is 3000 kays old, it might be genuinely 3k or a speedo replaced, you just never know and pulling the service history is easy. Nonetheless, if you get a good deal and all the "used bike check markers" are ticked to satisfaction, then why not.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Why not.. if you are getting a good deal on it. Can't comment further without actually seeing the bike or knowing its condition. If you do pick it, give it a through service and change all the fluids. And maybe use a flush additive (like the ones from 3m) with the engine oil before draining it out.