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Re: KTM 200 Duke
Yes the bike cranks but refuse to start. Battery is in good condition at the moment. I did try disconnecting the battery but it didn't make a difference. -
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does the bike crank but refuse to start ?Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
from the manual, 23 corresponds to: "Travel speed sensor - measurement range or power problem"
maybe the speedo sensor issue and i am thinking it might also be due to the roll over sensor, but am not sure.
i once had a bad speedo sensor, the console showed random speeds but never had starting trouble or any mil light up.. a new speedo sensor fixed the problem.
maybe disconnect the battery and reconnect it after say 5 minutes. how old is the battery ? and finally the wiring connections might need to be checked.Last edited by s1d; 08-28-2018, 09:41 AM.Leave a comment:
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Hi guys, so I went to the svc to get the bike checked. They took the throttle body out and reinstalled it again. Bike was riding better after this, so I came back home and didn't ride the bike whole day.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
In the evening I needed to go a nearby shop, cranked the bike and it didn't start. Getting ERROR CODE 23(FI) WARNING LAMP MIL FLASHES 2* Long 3* short blinks.
Is there anything I can check or do so that I can at least take the bike to svc?Leave a comment:
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Thanks for sharing feedback VJ, but I got the throttle cable changed as well when the throttle body was cleaned. Yes you're right it can be routing issue as well. I will be going to svc on Tuesday and get the biked checked again.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View PostI'd suggest you to look at the throttle cable itself. Since, there was an improvement noticed with the play adjusted, sometimes a kinky throttle cable can invariably mildly open the throttle butterfly, giving you a high idle. I'd suggest you check the throttle cable routing, the condition of the throttle cable itself. As s1d mentioned, in the throttle body, the butterfly is held in place by a very strong spring, and unless there is a problem with the spring or a bent butterfly (which are extremely extremely rare) the engine won't idle properly.
Now, the stepper motor comes into play here. The stepper motor is what controls the idle, which is placed on the throttle body; a faulty stepper motor means invariably high fluctuating RPMs, which is not related to the butterfly valve. I'd suggest you start off with the throttle cable, check for proper routing, and then check the stepper motor. Keep your observations posted.
Don't give up yet.
Cheers!
VJ
This problem has started after getting the throttle body cleaned, so svc guys will have to check this issue and fix it otherwise I am shooting a mail to ktm about this.
I have just spent 6k on-
Bike service
Replacing chain-set
Replacing rear brake master cylinder
Replacing brake oil
Getting throttle body cleaned
I'll keep you guys posted about the the progress!Leave a comment:
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I'd suggest you to look at the throttle cable itself. Since, there was an improvement noticed with the play adjusted, sometimes a kinky throttle cable can invariably mildly open the throttle butterfly, giving you a high idle. I'd suggest you check the throttle cable routing, the condition of the throttle cable itself. As s1d mentioned, in the throttle body, the butterfly is held in place by a very strong spring, and unless there is a problem with the spring or a bent butterfly (which are extremely extremely rare) the engine won't idle properly.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
Now, the stepper motor comes into play here. The stepper motor is what controls the idle, which is placed on the throttle body; a faulty stepper motor means invariably high fluctuating RPMs, which is not related to the butterfly valve. I'd suggest you start off with the throttle cable, check for proper routing, and then check the stepper motor. Keep your observations posted.
Don't give up yet.
Cheers!
VJ
Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 08-25-2018, 10:36 PM.Leave a comment:
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Check the throttle body properly and try to identify what is causing the issue.. the butterfly valve is what is connected to the throttle cable over a spring mounted pully type mechanism. Maybe the tb wasn't cleaned/put back correctly.. check the 'pully' mechanism at the tb over which the throttle cable rests.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
i would advice you take it apart and clean it properly once again and fit it back maybe with a new throttle cable and check. It is not as complicated as a carb to dismantle and assemble, so if you know a friendly mechanic try and sit with him and do the above.Leave a comment:
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Alright guys, so I got my duke checked at svc about the throttle issue. The issue I am facing is that the throttle is not closing properly once I let go off throttle.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
I am facing this issue after getting the throttle body cleaned, this issue was not present before. Mech at the svc adjusted the throttle play a bit which fixed the issue for a day only, but now its back to way it was.
Mech at svc was suggesting getting throttle body changed which would cost 6k approx, but I would not like to spend this much. My duke has done 57k and it seems like the bike is showing the age now.
Getting disappointed with the bike and svc. Any suggestions would greatly help.Leave a comment:
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Yes, I am thinking of getting auxiliary lamp as well. Going do to some research about this.Leave a comment:
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I had bought a pair of HLXG LED headlamps with 8000 lumen (per bulb) and used it on my Duke. The LED experience was unsatisfactory because our headlamp reflectors are not meant for LEDs.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
The light throw on low beam was uneven and the spread was patchy. The high beam focused on one spot and did not light up the area much. I switched back to my Phillips Xtreme Vision bulb and all was good again.
I feel you should go an auxiliary lamp.Leave a comment:
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Here are some options:Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
- Try using a yellowish light bulb rather than whitish. Try and get a Bosch h4 55/60 bulb and check, and make sure you adjust the beam throw (it is usually slightly upward)
- Go the aux lamp route and get them installed on the crash guard
- Led bulb can be installed, but you would have to do away with the rubber dust cover since these bulbs usually come with a fan at the rear. You can check out the LED bubs (H4 type) on aliexpress.comLeave a comment:
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Hi guys, has anyone upgraded their duke's headlight to LED. My work requires me to travel quite a bit in night and duke's headlight is not good enough. I am saying this even after upgrading the stock bulb of phillips extreme visions.
I know there's lot of LED's available in the market, but I do not want modify the headlight cover to accommodate it.
Please suggest best options. ThanksLeave a comment:
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thanks for elaborating the idle process, I'll visit the svc centre and then update again.Originally posted by s1d View Postto do the idle procedure that i explained, you need to visit the svc unless ofcourse you have that diag tool
in order to let the ecu 'relearn' you first need to connect the diag tool , check for any dtc's (if any, fix accordingly) and then make sure to hit the option to 'clear dtc' (even if there are no dtc's).. and once that is done, remove the diag tool and do the idle for 10-15 min (not less than 10 or greater than 15)
DTC - diagnostic trouble code.
if you don't do the idle procedure after a dtc clear, the bike will idle erratically/shut off and would require you to give more throttle input/clutch slipping to get off the line.. and gets ok after a few km.. so to avoid this, do the idle procedure before you ride.Leave a comment:
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to do the idle procedure that i explained, you need to visit the svc unless ofcourse you have that diag toolOriginally posted by vikundefined View Post
in order to let the ecu 'relearn' you first need to connect the diag tool , check for any dtc's (if any, fix accordingly) and then make sure to hit the option to 'clear dtc' (even if there are no dtc's).. and once that is done, remove the diag tool and do the idle for 10-15 min (not less than 10 or greater than 15)
DTC - diagnostic trouble code.
if you don't do the idle procedure after a dtc clear, the bike will idle erratically/shut off and would require you to give more throttle input/clutch slipping to get off the line.. and gets ok after a few km.. so to avoid this, do the idle procedure before you ride.Leave a comment:
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Alright, i'll try the idle method first. If it doesn't make any difference then I would need to visit svc.Originally posted by s1d View PostLeave a comment:
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I do that at almost every service.. i.e. clear dtc using diag tool and let it idle for 10-15 min without touching throttle.Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
But i think it may not solve the idle problem.. which might due to the ics module on the throttle body.. if idling was fine before service then do clear the dtc and let it idle for 15min and turn if off, let the bike cool down a bit and take it for a spin and check. If not they might need to check the ics and fix it.. maybe something was not done right during the cleaning of tb.Leave a comment:
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