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  • s1d
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Pred8R View Post
    Thanks bro, will try.
    which hazard module did you purchase ?
    i came across info that the one from spiraltech is not compatible with the d200 2019/abs version.
    let us know if the connector is indeed present and if it works. i think as you mentioned, the 2019 ones (maybe since the abs model) might not be having the connector in the first place (looking more closely at the wiring in the picture, i don't think your bike has the connector)
    Last edited by s1d; 08-16-2019, 02:55 PM.

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  • Pred8R
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Thank you. Got the idea now.
    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    2



    Watch this video.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • Pred8R
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Thanks bro, will try.
    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    it is hidden under/behind the fuse box area.. you might need to unclip the fuse box and reach behind to expose that connector.
    shine a torch in and you will spot it.

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    nice.. did you get the fuel pump replaced ?
    did you check the pressure on the new pump and if so, how did it compare with the old one ?

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Pred8R View Post
    Here's the pic of what's below my seat
    Originally posted by Pred8R View Post
    Guys please help me.
    Where can i find the 14 pin connecter used to connect plug n play hazard light adopter. I tried very hard but could'nt find it below seat. My duke is 3 months old and i'm starting to think they might have stopped providing it in recent duke 200. Please some one provide a pic as to where it is located. Thanks.
    2



    Watch this video.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • s1d
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by Pred8R View Post
    Here's the pic of what's below my seat
    it is hidden under/behind the fuse box area.. you might need to unclip the fuse box and reach behind to expose that connector.
    shine a torch in and you will spot it.

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    Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
    Yes, you're right. I got the fuel pump checked and it was showing 1.5 bar. Normal healthy fuel pump has a pressure between 2.5 to 2.9 so its time for the fuel pump to be changed.
    They also checked the oil level and it was still good, so they have suggested to keep using the bike normally and keeping eye on oil level. If the level drops drastically then they will open up the engine.
    The fuel pump was not in stock, it will be available in 2-3 day's so will get it changed then.
    Meanwhile I am hoping I would feel a big change in performance after the fuel pump change considering the stock has done around 68k.
    nice.. did you get the fuel pump replaced ?
    did you check the pressure on the new pump and if so, how did it compare with the old one ?

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  • Pred8R
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Here's the pic of what's below my seatClick image for larger version

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  • Pred8R
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Guys please help me.
    Where can i find the 14 pin connecter used to connect plug n play hazard light adopter. I tried very hard but could'nt find it below seat. My duke is 3 months old and i'm starting to think they might have stopped providing it in recent duke 200. Please some one provide a pic as to where it is located. Thanks.

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  • vikundefined
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    i suspect clutch, fuel pump pressure .. have them check the fuel pump pressure
    Yes, you're right. I got the fuel pump checked and it was showing 1.5 bar. Normal healthy fuel pump has a pressure between 2.5 to 2.9 so its time for the fuel pump to be changed.
    They also checked the oil level and it was still good, so they have suggested to keep using the bike normally and keeping eye on oil level. If the level drops drastically then they will open up the engine.
    The fuel pump was not in stock, it will be available in 2-3 day's so will get it changed then.
    Meanwhile I am hoping I would feel a big change in performance after the fuel pump change considering the stock has done around 68k.

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  • s1d
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
    At the moment by bike has done about 68k kms, there's no smoke if I rev the bike to 6k but the low end performance of the bike has taken a big hit.
    It does not matter how much throttle I give, the bike would take its own sweet time to reach speed above 25-30 kmph after that speeds its manageble but nothing compared to a healthy duke 200.
    I will update what svc say after a check-up.
    i suspect clutch, fuel pump pressure .. have them check the fuel pump pressure

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  • vikundefined
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    not an expert but here's my opinion
    Keep an eye on the engine oil level and let us know if it still is consuming oil. Check oil on a flat surface holding bike upright without any stand, idle the engine for a couple of minutes.. shut it off, wait a minute and then check. It must be checked the same way after a refill and while checking it later.
    many ppl check it on paddock or side stand.. which is not the right way.. and might end up overfilling causing issues.

    is the performance ok after refilling oil ? Do you notice any smoke ? especially on revving it to say 6k rpm ?

    there could be a couple of reasons for oil consumption.. commonly being bad valve oil seals or worn out piston rings/block liner.
    the 200's parts are much cheaper than the 390's.. the block+piston is around 50% or so cheaper than a 390's.. costs around 4k iirc. and a set of new valves cost around 1500rs iirc.
    some have gotten away by a simple change of piston rings.. but very few svc will even bother to check or replace just the rings.
    but again only on inspection will someone be able to tell for sure what needs to be done.. and most of the svc would try to replace everything (or at-least bill you for it) to milk you out of your money.. so you have be careful. by everything i mean right from the cam shafts, timing chain/guide, crank, conrod, bearings..


    maybe goto a diff svc next time, and get a complete general service done (all filter, oil, check airbox for oil residue, and in general for leaks around engine and underneath belly pan area) including throttle body cleaning and run a fi cleaner like abro or system g for a couple of tank fulls.
    then see how the performance is and oil consumption.
    Thanks for the suggestions.
    Actually the performance of the bike has been degrading everyday that I am using it. So finally tomorrow I will be leaving the bike at svc, they will open up the engine and let me know what parts are damaged and need replacement. I have been visiting this particular svc from a long time now and they have helped me in the past to get the bike fixed for least amount of money possible. But still I would only give a go ahead to them after an estimate.
    At the moment by bike has done about 68k kms, there's no smoke if I rev the bike to 6k but the low end performance of the bike has taken a big hit.
    It does not matter how much throttle I give, the bike would take its own sweet time to reach speed above 25-30 kmph after that speeds its manageble but nothing compared to a healthy duke 200.
    I will update what svc say after a check-up.

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  • s1d
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
    Hi, guys so finally visited the svc to get the bike looked at. Bike also started showing low oil pressure few day before visiting the svc. Now the first thing that i got checked was oil level and it was really low considering that the last service was done only 3k kms ago.
    So they topped up the engine oil and said that engine is obviously in not good condition that's why it has started using too much oil all of a sudden and would need work.

    Now they mentioned that the engine would need to opened and then they would be able to confirm what parts would need replacement and how much it would cost.

    If there's anyone who got this type of engine work done on thier duke's then please share information with me for what things i should keep in mind.
    Also would the engine would be reliable any longer?
    I am not comfortable with getting engine work done, but I am also not able to sell the bike in this condition.
    Experts please share your opinion, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
    not an expert but here's my opinion
    Keep an eye on the engine oil level and let us know if it still is consuming oil. Check oil on a flat surface holding bike upright without any stand, idle the engine for a couple of minutes.. shut it off, wait a minute and then check. It must be checked the same way after a refill and while checking it later.
    many ppl check it on paddock or side stand.. which is not the right way.. and might end up overfilling causing issues.

    is the performance ok after refilling oil ? Do you notice any smoke ? especially on revving it to say 6k rpm ?

    there could be a couple of reasons for oil consumption.. commonly being bad valve oil seals or worn out piston rings/block liner.
    the 200's parts are much cheaper than the 390's.. the block+piston is around 50% or so cheaper than a 390's.. costs around 4k iirc. and a set of new valves cost around 1500rs iirc.
    some have gotten away by a simple change of piston rings.. but very few svc will even bother to check or replace just the rings.
    but again only on inspection will someone be able to tell for sure what needs to be done.. and most of the svc would try to replace everything (or at-least bill you for it) to milk you out of your money.. so you have be careful. by everything i mean right from the cam shafts, timing chain/guide, crank, conrod, bearings..


    maybe goto a diff svc next time, and get a complete general service done (all filter, oil, check airbox for oil residue, and in general for leaks around engine and underneath belly pan area) including throttle body cleaning and run a fi cleaner like abro or system g for a couple of tank fulls.
    then see how the performance is and oil consumption.

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by krunal1981 View Post
    Unable to upload the video here . You can watch it in this link. I washed the bike today so can't see the oil stains . Had clicked an image of the left side of the casing .
    From the video, I don't hear any problem with the sound of the engine. At least, from what I can hear, everything seem to be working as it is. Your oil leak, though can be tricky. But, if you've replaced the gasket and still the oil leaks, try to put some sealant on the stator wire exit on the left casing. Dukes are prone to leak oil from this spot. Secondly, make sure your engine casing bolts are tight enough. If you have a loose bolt or a stripped bolt thread, that is not torqued in well, it will leak oil.

    Check and let us know.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 07-27-2019, 10:16 PM.

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  • krunal1981
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    It's totally mucky in there. But, from what I can speculate, it seems there is leak from the magneto coil wire outlet. Do post the some pictures of the left and right side of the engine, at least that can give us an idea to start with.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Unable to upload the video here . You can watch it in this link https://youtu.be/sh33sa2k5LE . I washed the bike today so can't see the oil stains . Had clicked an image of the left side of the casing . Click image for larger version

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  • vikundefined
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by vikundefined View Post
    Hi guys, I have a 2013 model duke 200 and just done over 66k Km. Recently I have started facing issues with low end pickup of the bike. For example, if I am ridding in 4th gear and I have to slow down for a speed breaker, I reduce the speed and shift down to 2nd gear but while picking up speed after the speed breaker the bike does not respond to the throttle for 2-3 seconds. At that moment it feels like the bike is not getting fuel, because giving more throttle does not change anything.
    Its really difficult riding the bike in this condition and I have also been lucky quite a few times and saved myself from accident.
    Now little history about the bike-
    I am on the stock fuel pump and the throttle body has been cleaned once. Clutch has also been changed once, apart from this everything else is stock. I feel like its time to change fuel pump or throttle body. Experts please share opinion, it would greatly help me. I hoping to keep the bike for as long as I can. Thanks
    Hi, guys so finally visited the svc to get the bike looked at. Bike also started showing low oil pressure few day before visiting the svc. Now the first thing that i got checked was oil level and it was really low considering that the last service was done only 3k kms ago.
    So they topped up the engine oil and said that engine is obviously in not good condition that's why it has started using too much oil all of a sudden and would need work.

    Now they mentioned that the engine would need to opened and then they would be able to confirm what parts would need replacement and how much it would cost.

    If there's anyone who got this type of engine work done on thier duke's then please share information with me for what things i should keep in mind.
    Also would the engine would be reliable any longer?
    I am not comfortable with getting engine work done, but I am also not able to sell the bike in this condition.
    Experts please share your opinion, your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: KTM 200 Duke

    Originally posted by krunal1981 View Post
    Attached the image of the leak . Looks dirty thanks to the rains last evening. Will try and upload the video for the sound from the engine by EOD.
    It's totally mucky in there. But, from what I can speculate, it seems there is leak from the magneto coil wire outlet. Do post the some pictures of the left and right side of the engine, at least that can give us an idea to start with.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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