Re: KTM 200 Duke

It depends on the quality of paint you are using. Mostly it should be approx 900~ minimum for a decent job. Cheaper options might be available, but the work of the the paintjob is always a question. Always use good quality paint, so it it lasts long for the money paid.

Ivan, now that you've changed your CCT, don't worry about it too much, it's a single cylinder bike after all, and once heated, you will hear some mild ticking which is totally normal, these are basically the interference sounds of the rotating components itself, don't worry about that. Secondly, you won't break your engine by installing an after market exhaust, but it's better to program your ECM and air flow for the exhaust system that you're installing, helps gain the best of the modifications. If you're not able to get it programmed as per the new exhaust, nothing to worry, take it easy and don't rev the nuts out of it each time.

Hope it helps!

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi. i've also changed the cam chain tensioner by my self and its seems ok now but not 100% .after 1 minute on idle this tick tick comes again for some seconds but its very low. I have to be focused to hear it cause its not noticable but i am sure it is coming from the same spot... i have a feeling that it will come back sooner or later. :/


i need some advise on something else
I bought yesterday from ali an exhaust pipe for 15 dollars and an ar exaust for 29 for the duke 200... I am going to brake my engine if i install them?

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Small question, what would be the cost of painting the wheels of the D200?
Has anyone done it?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

small update from my end.. so finally my d200 too had the stator coil fail (5yrs/40k km). Speed indication was haywire, mostly stuck at 0 with intermittent pop up of the speed, checked with a multi-meter at home and confirmed the diagnosis.
so decided to take the bike in for service which was also due. they too checked the voltages using their diag tool/battery tester and confirmed the same.

had the coil replaced (part cost was around 1250, labor 250 approx). I was in two minds about going in for the newer stator side engine cover (which has a nozzle to spray oil) but decided against it (and anyway they did not have stock and i wanted to get the bike fixed immediately)

General service i.e. replaced all filters, engine oil, and also coolant since the current coolant was changed 3 yrs ago

Used the Shell AX7 15w50 oil this time around.
Coolant: motul motocool expert
And also changed the spark plug to the ngk iridium. I must say the throttle response feels much crisper now. Have ridden only around 50km in city traffic now. Will ride a few 100-1000km more and see how it behaves. Considering the ngk iridium isn't way too expensive vs the oem bosch plug (300 vs 180rs approx), Ill be happy if it will do duty for at-least 30k km without creating any problems. (the current plug had done close to 20k km)
Bought the oil,coolant and plug on amazon (deals of course!)

Chain/Sprockets in good condition (Still the stock chain and rear sprocket, front sprocket was changed at 28k km iirc to the p220 one which is same as the d200's front and costs 150rs.)

And now the svc has put up a notice (Seemed an official notice from ktm itself) at their parts counter that they are selling the parts over the counter at MRP. If not in stock you can place an order by paying 20% advance. A welcome move imo. Also got some interesting insight into the troubleshooting of electrical components and their 'ideal' values for things such as tps,ics etc.. but sorry no pics due to confidentiality reasons

Re: KTM 200 Duke

i had the same issue. the svc claimed to have replaced the chain tensioner but the sound is back after i did a 1200 kms ride. Will go the SVC this weekend and see what they have to say.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Got it. Thanks my friend for your advices! I think i must go to a mechanic and see whats going on with my bike!

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It's somewhat called a "patchy fix". What they do is they remove the small bolt on the tensioner, use a screw driver and and turn int anti-clockwise as much as they can and sometimes the sound goes and only to reappear. It's a temporary fix, after a few hundreds of thousands of KMs the sound will be back again. Secondly, some use long threaded bolts and torque it inside the tensioner, which is a crappy thing to do. It's all but a temporary fix. Sooner or later, the sound will eventually come. There is nothing to really to adjust, they're just squeezing the already tight tensioner in the hope that it will work, which is not a great thing to do.

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks for your support and advices. I have one last question.
I've found a post from a person in another forum saying that anyone with duke 125/200/390 facing chain tensioner issues he can try with a screwdriver less than half turn left and see the results. He wrote that he had duke 200 and some times when he sounds this issue ( not often as he said.. it seems that his fix working for him) he tights a llittle this chain tensioner and its ok.
DO you have duke also? do you have experience with the dukes? i never saw this part from close and i dont know if its really adjustable.... :/

Re: KTM 200 Duke

If you don't fix it, you will progressively worsen this sound and it can in fact reduce your valve timing efficiency especially if ridden hard. It's a cheap fix and better to get it done now. It isn't bad per se, but it's an irritant during riding that's about it, at least for the time being. Go ahead, get the consumables replaced so that you ride without trouble or get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

Cheers!
VJ

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Around 13.500 km
Sounds bad? should i take care of it immediately?
What will be the result if i don't fix it?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

That is the timing chain tensioner. You can hear the ups and downs in the sound coming out from the engine. Replace your chain tensioner, how much has your bike clocked till now?

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks for your reply. I've uploaded a video to make it little easier. You can hear this sound in the beginning
.. especially on 0:30 till 1:25 sec time when it fades away

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hello Ivan. The tick tick sound that you're hearing after a cold start can mean, your shim clearances are out of spec. And once the engine has been warmed up, the sound disappears as metal expands and takes in the excess clearance. Secondly, a faulty timing chain tensioner would make the same sound irrespective of whether the engine has been warmed up or not. A faulty tensioner is best to be replaced. There is nothing to adjust with the tensioner, if your tensioner is faulty, the only way is to get it replaced with a new one. Start off with a new tensioner and see if it reduces the sound. If it doesn't your shim clearances have be checked and replaced.

Do keep your observations posted.

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi all. I have a weird sound coming from my bike. It happens when i am starting it and i can hear if for 1 minute maybe a little more and then it goes away. If i try to describe it the are some ocasional tik tik.. not too loud and as the bike warms its stops completely. I have asked the mechanic 3-4 months ago when i went for service and he didnt pay much attension. he said all ok.. maybe its the chain inside the engine.. :/ to be honest i dont trust him but he is the only one near my town who has xp with ktms. I saw some videos on youtube and from what i can tell its the chain tensioner. do i have to adjust it? replace it? or i should leave it because as i said the sound is there only for 1- 1 and half minutes.. what do you think?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

ceat zoom rad x1 if you want to save a few bucks and still have a good tire. priced around or a bit lower than the stock mrf.
michelin pilot street radial is ok too.. its main benefit being more puncture resistant. it is a harder compound compared to the stock mrf , ceats or the apollo.. but after say around 16k km you will notice that the michelin has a lot of tread left but it squares out (wear pattern, probably due to the 150 size) i am using this tire currently and due for a change in a couple of months. i feel the 150 size is a bit too big and unnecessary on the 200.. i would be switching to something in a 140/70 size at next change.

it comes down to your use case and budget.. and if you are on a budget, i would recommend the ceats or the stock mrf. in stock size.. and if you ride on bad roads and tour get something like the timsun 712r (i would suggest a 140/70 size for the 712r). Or also look at other 140/70 options (the michelin is also available in this size and more suited to the d200).

when i had changed the tire to michelin, there weren't as many options available and i had to change the tire asap due to a non repairable puncture that the stock mrf ended up with and i wanted to try the michelin.