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  • #46
    [QUOTE=SidharthaN;936975]I have a query regarding my new P220f. I am in the process of completing my running-in period.

    1. The speed ratio as per the manual says
    0-1000Kms- 1st gear/15, 2nd gear/30, 3rd gear/45 , 4th gear/55, 5th gear/65
    1000-2000Kms- 1st gear/20, 2nd gear/40, 3rd gear/55, 4th gear/65, 5th gear/75

    As per the ASC guys they have flatly instructed me to keep the speed below 50 kmph without mentioning any rpm specifications. I have done 200kms till now. Today I had to leave wifey to office from Dl-ggn which is around 40 kms . I noticed the bike struggling since both of us are in the weight ratio of 70 and she also carries hep laptop which is around 20 kgs.

    a. Is it advisable to carry pillion sometimes during running in ?
    b. How is the running in to be followed ? As per ASC or the manual ?[/QU
    IN MY OPINION:
    ans (A):check for proper air press in both tire..sometimes because of less air the bike struggles to pull even with the rider alone
    ans(b):though there are many ways of running in period riding,the manual says to keep the speed below 50 kmph @5th gear and not changing the gears frequently!!
    but what i do is i change the gear whenever the tachometer touches 3krpm!! i.e.,for 1st gear the speed may be nearly 12-17kmph,followed by 2nd:20-25kmph,3rd:30-35;4thgear:40-45 and 5th gear:45-50!!i always try to keep the bike steay in 3k rpm range..the advantage of running in this range is gud power,mileage and very less chances of gear shiftings!!
    and foremost thing always engine idle for 2-3mns before starting so that the engine gets heated and performs better!!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by ArunKR_ View Post
      hey man...Just wanted to know what the maximum kms motul 300v can be run??...I currently use that oil and done almost 2.5k on it..
      Depends. You can easily use it till 6k max.

      Cheers!
      VJ

      Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
      The girl said, 'NO!'


      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


      THE END

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      • #48
        [QUOTE=Anurag_;936990]
        Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
        I have a query regarding my new P220f. I am in the process of completing my running-in period.

        1. The speed ratio as per the manual says
        0-1000Kms- 1st gear/15, 2nd gear/30, 3rd gear/45 , 4th gear/55, 5th gear/65
        1000-2000Kms- 1st gear/20, 2nd gear/40, 3rd gear/55, 4th gear/65, 5th gear/75

        As per the ASC guys they have flatly instructed me to keep the speed below 50 kmph without mentioning any rpm specifications. I have done 200kms till now. Today I had to leave wifey to office from Dl-ggn which is around 40 kms . I noticed the bike struggling since both of us are in the weight ratio of 70 and she also carries hep laptop which is around 20 kgs.

        a. Is it advisable to carry pillion sometimes during running in ?
        b. How is the running in to be followed ? As per ASC or the manual ?[/QU
        IN MY OPINION:
        ans (A):check for proper air press in both tire..sometimes because of less air the bike struggles to pull even with the rider alone
        ans(b):though there are many ways of running in period riding,the manual says to keep the speed below 50 kmph @5th gear and not changing the gears frequently!!
        but what i do is i change the gear whenever the tachometer touches 3krpm!! i.e.,for 1st gear the speed may be nearly 12-17kmph,followed by 2nd:20-25kmph,3rd:30-35;4thgear:40-45 and 5th gear:45-50!!i always try to keep the bike steay in 3k rpm range..the advantage of running in this range is gud power,mileage and very less chances of gear shiftings!!
        and foremost thing always engine idle for 2-3mns before starting so that the engine gets heated and performs better!!
        The rpm range as of now is 2500....can I increase the speeds from 50 to 65 as per the manual ! I have done around 175 kms as of now ?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
          I have a query regarding my new P220f. I am in the process of completing my running-in period.

          1. The speed ratio as per the manual says
          0-1000Kms- 1st gear/15, 2nd gear/30, 3rd gear/45 , 4th gear/55, 5th gear/65
          1000-2000Kms- 1st gear/20, 2nd gear/40, 3rd gear/55, 4th gear/65, 5th gear/75

          As per the ASC guys they have flatly instructed me to keep the speed below 50 kmph without mentioning any rpm specifications. I have done 200kms till now. Today I had to leave wifey to office from Dl-ggn which is around 40 kms . I noticed the bike struggling since both of us are in the weight ratio of 70 and she also carries hep laptop which is around 20 kgs.

          a. Is it advisable to carry pillion sometimes during running in ?
          b. How is the running in to be followed ? As per ASC or the manual ?
          Mate. Things are very simple, don't over think it. Don't keep a keen eye on speed. Just be sure first 1000kms rpm range of 4k while shifting with ovccassional 5k bursts. And after next 1000kms tKe the rpm limit further high.

          Cheers
          Ride safe
          Krishna
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          • #50
            Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
            Mate. Things are very simple, don't over think it. Don't keep a keen eye on speed. Just be sure first 1000kms rpm range of 4k while shifting with ovccassional 5k bursts. And after next 1000kms tKe the rpm limit further high.

            Cheers
            Ride safe
            Krishna
            i very much agree with this....keeping an eye always on the meter doesn't make the ride enjoyable!!though practicing and perfecting according to the manual is gud but it doesn't mean that you should be exactly following them...sometimes you can do a 60-70!! (p.s. truly my opinion onlY!! )

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Anurag_ View Post
              i very much agree with this....keeping an eye always on the meter doesn't make the ride enjoyable!!though practicing and perfecting according to the manual is gud but it doesn't mean that you should be exactly following them...sometimes you can do a 60-70!! (p.s. truly my opinion onlY!! )
              In fact occasional bursts of speed is very good for the engine break in period. It's not rocket science, if you can feel the bike and the engine that's more than enough. Never ever keep the engine speed at a constant pace, especially during break in.

              Cheers!
              VJ

              Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
              The girl said, 'NO!'


              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


              THE END

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              • #52
                exactly, just run the bike through the rpm band and familiarize it with the rev range, you will find the bike to be more freely moving than the tightly run-in vehicles. Which , honestly , is no fun at all.

                Cheers
                Ride Safe
                Krishna

                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                In fact occasional bursts of speed is very good for the engine break in period. It's not rocket science, if you can feel the bike and the engine that's more than enough. Never ever keep the engine speed at a constant pace, especially during break in.

                Cheers!
                VJ

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                ulsar 220F
                |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                • #53
                  Thanks guys for the know how ! My previous bike was a RE TB , had run that in the same manner, result the bike used to struggle above 80.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
                    Thanks guys for the know how ! My previous bike was a RE TB , had run that in the same manner, result the bike used to struggle above 80.
                    That depends on a lot of conditions not just the break in. Your carb tuning, your engine condition etc etc. Break in is for the engine to get set and not just ride the bike at a constant speed which will cause the piston to not set in properly. So yes, lots of factors.......

                    Cheers!
                    VJ

                    Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                      exactly, just run the bike through the rpm band and familiarize it with the rev range, you will find the bike to be more freely moving than the tightly run-in vehicles. Which , honestly , is no fun at all.

                      Cheers
                      Ride Safe
                      Krishna
                      As per the book I can max the speed to 65 for 1000kms. Till what RPM bands I can go upto . Whicle shifting I reach around 4000 but once the bike settles in at 50+- it remains around 2500.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
                        As per the book I can max the speed to 65 for 1000kms. Till what RPM bands I can go upto . Whicle shifting I reach around 4000 but once the bike settles in at 50+- it remains around 2500.
                        Don't go by manual always. Just make sure you don't stress the engine at whatever gear you're in. 65 to 75 is perfectly normal for the engine.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ

                        Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                        The girl said, 'NO!'


                        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                        THE END

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SidharthaN View Post
                          As per the book I can max the speed to 65 for 1000kms. Till what RPM bands I can go upto . Whicle shifting I reach around 4000 but once the bike settles in at 50+- it remains around 2500.
                          Your doing it right. Keepcthis practise.

                          Cheers
                          Ride safe
                          Krishna
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                          Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

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                          ulsar 220F
                          |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                          • #58
                            So guys here is a update.
                            I think the left side spark coil has taken it's last breath yesterday. Washed the bike completely yesterday, polished it(went waste,bike looks like shit now) and was going to lube it and thumped the starter, well the starter motor was running, but the bike isn't starting. So i thought it was the problem of water clogging the sensors, blew dried all the sensors , yes it was wet, but took care of it. Checked the petrol cock, it was working and all. No issues like that, checked the right side plug too, it was sparking, couldn't check the left side one as the tank has to be removed for free access.

                            Today morning removed the tank, re-cleaned all the sensors this time checked the left side side coil too, but it is not sparking. So I guess I can say I found the issue. Still to be sure , I called in a mech , he will come today in a few hours and check and will conform the problem and do the needful.

                            And also, might go back to stock Exhaust today. The RC exhaust needs some treatment if I need it to last this monsoon, rusting issues and also glasswool refilling.


                            Cheers
                            Ride Safe
                            Krishna

                            Update :

                            The problem is solved, wasn't the coil, but it's nearing time for a change anyway. The culprit was water in the carb/or in the tank, not sure.
                            So the mech came, and verified that the coils are generating spark and no problem there, then he removed the drain screw and nothing was coming out, din't seem right, so poked in with a tooth pick and then lo and behold, water starts draining out like from a leaked co-orporation pipe. And it defies logic to think how that much water could even get there, unless they fill water in tanks instead of petrol.

                            Anyways, drained it out , then drained the petrol a bit and then the bike came to life. Drained about 1 liter petrol from tank(about 7-8 lts is there), and din't find any water in it. Now the mystery is how that much water got in there. I washed the bike yesterday, but I wash it like that every week, nothing different was done, God know how that much water managed to get in there.

                            Well, now all is fine , and also , a big change has been done. Will post pic here, some will be happy I did that, keeping promises and all...lol..
                            Now I'm happy again. Mom was wondering what i was so grumpy about since yesterday.

                            Will keep you guys posted.
                            Last edited by krish2778; 04-20-2013, 08:03 PM.
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                            ulsar 220F
                            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                              So guys here is a update.
                              I think the left side spark coil has taken it's last breath yesterday. Washed the bike completely yesterday, polished it(went waste,bike looks like shit now) and was going to lube it and thumped the starter, well the starter motor was running, but the bike isn't starting. So i thought it was the problem of water clogging the sensors, blew dried all the sensors , yes it was wet, but took care of it. Checked the petrol cock, it was working and all. No issues like that, checked the right side plug too, it was sparking, couldn't check the left side one as the tank has to be removed for free access.

                              Today morning removed the tank, re-cleaned all the sensors this time checked the left side side coil too, but it is not sparking. So I guess I can say I found the issue. Still to be sure , I called in a mech , he will come today in a few hours and check and will conform the problem and do the needful.

                              And also, might go back to stock Exhaust today. The RC exhaust needs some treatment if I need it to last this monsoon, rusting issues and also glasswool refilling.


                              Cheers
                              Ride Safe
                              Krishna

                              Update :

                              The problem is solved, wasn't the coil, but it's nearing time for a change anyway. The culprit was water in the carb/or in the tank, not sure.
                              So the mech came, and verified that the coils are generating spark and no problem there, then he removed the drain lug and nothing was coming out, din't seem right, so poked in with a tooth pick and then lo and behold, water starts draining out like from a leaked co-orporation pipe. And it defies logic to think how that much water could even get there, unless they fill water in tanks instead of petrol.

                              Anyways, drained it out , then drained the petrol a bit and then the bike came to life. Drained about 1 liter petrol from tank(about 7-8 lts is there), and din't find any water in it. Now the mystery is how that much water got in there. I washed the bike yesterday, but I wash it like that every week, nothing different was done, God know how that much water managed to get in there.

                              Well, now all is fine , and also , a big change has been done. Will post pic here, some will be happy I did that, keeping promises and all...lol..
                              Now I'm happy again. Mom was wondering what i was so grumpy about since yesterday.

                              Will keep you guys posted.
                              Nice to see the lady back in form. But even that coil shouldn't be an issue as you know the right side is the master plug. So the left going kaput you should still be able to crank the machine.

                              Drain lug bolt? which drain lug u me mean mate?

                              Culprit maybe the overflow inlet which might have let water in or by the gap from the fuel lid itself.

                              But said and done I guess the new can looks beautiful.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ

                              Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                Nice to see the lady back in form. But even that coil shouldn't be an issue as you know the right side is the master plug. So the left going kaput you should still be able to crank the machine.

                                Drain lug bolt? which drain lug u me mean mate?

                                Culprit maybe the overflow inlet which might have let water in or by the gap from the fuel lid itself.

                                But said and done I guess the new can looks beautiful.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ

                                Sent from my LT26ii using Tapatalk 2
                                It was a typo mate, i meant drain screw.

                                Oh, thanks for letting me know, i thought the left was the master plug. Well turns out the coils are fine as i said. I assumed wrong. I never guessed the water getting into carb. I mean i drained the tank a bit yesterday to make sure of that. But when the drain bolt was removed , it was clogged, poked with a toothpick and water started flowing out.
                                And believe me, a lot of water.


                                And guys, shifted from the RC exhaust to the Stock exhaust,shifting to touring mode , so don't want too much noisy exhaust to ruin it for me, moreover my RC exhaust is getting rusty, need to powder coat it, so it will be out of commission for the next 6-7 months.
                                The reason I shifted to RC exhaust was because the stock one, it had that cluttering sound of metal particle, fixed that, so I hope this helps people who have over 2 years old 220's where the exhaust crops up with this issue.

                                Problem was as follows- When the bike is started and after running a bit , a sound like a piece of metal rattalling inside a can comes, it gets more and more prominent as the miles go by and gets to be unbearable.

                                Issue- A small crack on the inner header pipe and particles falling inside and playing inside the cat con or some kind of filter near the bend pipe.

                                Solution. Welding the crack on the header pipe and removing that filter thingy from inside. To solve it take it to the svc, they will do the job for you from a nice welding shop. The job i got done was a neat one, will post a pic soon.

                                Bike is now bone stock.



                                P.S : Vijay ,I promised you that when we meet, I would have the stock exhaust on, and seems that's going well. Will try and make it this week.

                                Cheers
                                Ride Safe
                                Krishna
                                Last edited by krish2778; 04-20-2013, 08:15 PM.
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