Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Real nice review Krish and other guys I am planning to get this beast to replace my 12 year old love Bajaj Caliber Croma.Loved the look of this beast at the first sight was a lil skeptical about the mileage part as higher the cc lower the mileage concept kicks in after reading a lot of reviews out here I feel this beast can return an average of 40+ if you maintain and handle her properly.Being an owner of a Bajaj bike I know these bikes can take any amount of abuse and rough use provided you take good care of them.Have asked for a TD tomorrow and hopefully should join the gang of proud P220 owners soon.Great reviews once again keep it coming

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience


Thanks a lot Deepak, I am glad that we were able to help you out with out experiences, and please don't forget to post and read the Pulsar 220DTS-i ownership forum, it is a great place to be and will learn a lot from there...!!

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Sure thing been reading that since this post is smaller one was able to complete soon that is a big ocean slowly reading thro.Btw in case you can the kind of average mileage you get on her would be nice.From what I have read its best to keep her in stock till 5000 km and then go for changes.I read in one of the post about oil changes at 50 350 700 km something of that sort is that needed.Has RVM issue been solved and vibrations issues if not there is always RTR mirror and double side tape

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience


Sure, happy to help.
On a optimum mix under sane riding and minimal braking you can get a FE of about somewhere near 45kmpl without any issues at all. But, do not expect this for the first 1-2k kms as the engine is just setting in.

Now about bringing changes after 5k kms, the number of offered changes on the bajaj pulsars are minimal and none are proved to be reliable over a long period of time, so i would suggest before entering into aftermarket parts, please be educated on the harm it can cause, we have a thread here name The Powerhouse FZ18, it has detailed report of a hot-rodding case, many of which are out of context of what i am saying here, but within the thread there is the essence of what i am trying to convey, so do have a read of that thread too if you are serious on aftermarket performance parts, if not, ignore this paragraph.

Now regarding oil change, 50,350,700 drainage interval for the first 1k is a very good thing to do , if you can afford it, if not ,no issues at all , as draining at 500 or 750 would cause no measurable damage, it is just that the first mentioned drainage interval would be a bit more better to the engine , that's all.

And No as far as the RVM is concerned, the problem is not rectified as yet, viable option is to custom weld the apache mirrors which give a better view to the rear and in many ways much tolerable, and about fairing vibrations , a well mannerly applied double sided tape treatment can almost take away most of the vibrations from the fairing.


Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Thanks for the prompt reply Krish as for mileage sane driving can be managed but for city drive minimal breaking is something difficult but manageable anything above 40 is sheer bonus I would say and I was asking about constant mileage post run in only.I can let her run in till 2000 km also not an issue.
As far as oil change is concerned if such changes are for the good for the bike during set in wont mind doing them at all after all when we spend 95k to get this beast additional 5k for its betterment wont /shouldnt hurt.RVM issue incase we do some welding to fit the RTR mirror would SVC guys make some noise about warranty and stuff.
With regards to mods I wont get into big time mods for her at best maybe some oil and filter change nothing beyond I believe in keeping the stock look and I love this beast the way she is so nothing much done on the ground.Let me get hold of the bike and depending on the vibes we can fit the double tape do SVC guys do it if we request them else it can always be a DIY .With regard to security systems how far are they effective coz the place I live in people handle vehicles bad locked ones are pulled around to park their vehicle so would like one so it makes the noise and people think twice before touching her

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience



About mirror, yes, there is a chance that the svc guys might say about warranty, so it would be better to stay stock and try to make do with the stock visibility to the rear.

And about air filters, please if you are going for the likes of K&N or green filters then do keep in mind to upjet the carb along with it , in best interest of the engine, or it will run lean and it's a step for disaster. My advice, don't go for them.

And as far as i have heard, the newer lots from about a year back or so comes factory fitted with good insulation between fairing parts to avoid this vibration, i don not know how far true it is, but do have a look for it, and if found not to having the double sided tape , get it done from the dealers, make sure they do a neat job at it.

And i don't think any extra security system is needed, if at all you are still considering it, get a good brand of Disc locks.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

In my present bike I have remained stock all the way wont be a problem being so in the new beast too. Security system/remote locking was more of an option to prevent the many idiots that live in apartment from manhandling my bike they just push it around move sideways etc so they can somehow insert their vehicle my present bike suffered a lot breaking od rear indicator mirror etc so wanted something which will give some scare atleast

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Finally got to do a TD on this beauty loved everybit of it gear shift was smooth ride was awesome smooth as butter all in all an awesome bike to own.Faced minor driving glitches to old driving style of all 4 gears down leg automatically goes to hit down to shift to next gear guess 12 years of driving this way takes a bit of time.Legs were fitting fairings again slight modification in style needed will come with driving in all lovely machine to be on

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Hi Krishna, I have an April 2010 P220 as well, have clocked just over 40,000 kms since. As you said, minor work has been done and the bike is still stock. There are a few questions that I had 1. What is the worst mileage and the best mileage that you've got from your bike ? 2. I have used Motul 8100 X-Cess, fully synthetic and have noticed a marked difference, however some forums do not recommend this. Your view ? 3. Also, am currently testing an econizer - Fuel Energy Saver | Diesel/Gasoline Fuel Saver | Fuel Energy Saver for Diesel & Gasoline. Your view is much appreciated.

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience


Hai mate.

Toanswer your questions
1) Worst mileage - 29kmpl
Best Mileage 55 kmpl( With FFE and a very lean tune, not recommended) and 49kmpl (Bone stock)

2)Upon a bit of googleing found that the oil is used for 4 wheelers both Petrol and diesel engine oils. In practice it is said that diesel or petrol car engine oils should not be used for bikes, reason being these engine oil has extra additive which can cause deterioration of clutch at a very hiked rate and inducing clutch slippage and many such problems which are not good for the bike's engine.
Now having said that, if used , the bike might feel very smooth and a tad better performance in terms of lesser friction and all, but along the line you will face clutch slippage which is a very annoying stuff and the clutch plates and friction plates would have to be changed, causing unwanted expense. Also it's specifications may not be compliant to the one the company specifies for the bike. Now then again, I know a lot of people who are using mobil 1 devlac and other diesel engine oils in their bike and not having any short term issues. Claiming it is ok for the engine, only a long term analysis can tell the true picture.
So to conclude, it's really a personal opinion, my advice would be to stay away from car engine oils and stick to bike engine oil, motul itself provides a great oil the 7100 FS oil , which provides great protection and also superior drain interval.

3) I would never trust such 3rd party "inventions" , i do not think that there can be any short cuts which they come up with for saving fuel or anything , it might just be a gimmick, and it's hard to bileve that they have some well established technology to reduce emissions that the Manufacturers R&D couldn't get their hands on, specially when the emission norms are now getting more stricter and stricter. So again, my advice , rather my opinion would be to keep away form such products.


Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

mixing two different provider's engine oil in my bike will result bad?

the thing is heard that 220 needs 1.2 liter engine oil in it....
my bike was filled with power1 engine oil and it is not fully filled, and i am now want to go with motul...

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience


If both the oil are of same grade and same type(mineral/ss/fs) then you can mix them. 200ml won't be a problem if the grade is right.

Or drain the current oil and buy 2 cans of motul and pour 1.2 ltrs, the remaining 800ml can be used for the next 5 oil changes so you only need to buy one can from then on.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

As long as the grade matches and both are motorcycle oils i dont see any problem even if they are from different brands, my bike always runs with 1 liter of motul 5100/7100 with 200 ml of mineral oil sometimes and i have faced no problem whatsoever, even my previous P180 used to have different brand oil for topup. Just make sure they are of same grade and motorcycle oil and it should be fine..

And Power 1? isnt that a 15w40 grade oil? that isnt suitable for the 220, only Power1 racing comes in W50 grade

Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

Thanks krish

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Re: Pulsar 220F , 3 years/60,000kms long term Ownership Experience

@ road ripper
Which oil will be most suitable then?

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