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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
Sorry for this ridiculous question but redlining this old Splendor affect the engine and make it seize?Originally posted by kusmaker View Post-----------
Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!
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Ride her slowly. Thats what they are made for..Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostSorry for this ridiculous question but redlining this old Splendor affect the engine and make it seize?
I topped 105 kmph on my splendor along side the CBZ classic model.. that was after quite a lot of modifications.. 10% errr would mean almost 96kmph
Here is a fact which is going to be hard for you guys to believe.. my splendor gave me less mileage than my zmr gives me now.. [emoji3] i used to get 35 kmpl.. bwahahahahaha.. oh my. I miss my splendor.. Used to do some stunts on it..
had fights with my seniora and peer mates in college.. People will know i am coming when i was almost 300m away.. the Custome made Free Flow Exhaust with KnN performance filters and reduced the weight of the bike by almost 4kgs increasing the rear seat height and it was higher than a Karizma.. did cornering in such a way the footrest gets scratched on the road.. phew. One hell of an idiotic rash rider I was before I got matured..
Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
How you got such a low mileage in your Splendor?Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostRide her slowly. Thats what they are made for..
I topped 105 kmph on my splendor along side the CBZ classic model.. that was after quite a lot of modifications.. 10% errr would mean almost 96kmph
Here is a fact which is going to be hard for you guys to believe.. my splendor gave me less mileage than my zmr gives me now.. [emoji3] i used to get 35 kmpl.. bwahahahahaha.. oh my. I miss my splendor.. Used to do some stunts on it..
had fights with my seniora and peer mates in college.. People will know i am coming when i was almost 300m away.. the Custome made Free Flow Exhaust with KnN performance filters and reduced the weight of the bike by almost 4kgs increasing the rear seat height and it was higher than a Karizma.. did cornering in such a way the footrest gets scratched on the road.. phew. One hell of an idiotic rash rider I was before I got matured..
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Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!
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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
The mods i did were the reason for such a low mileage.. and the way of riding matters..Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostHow you got such a low mileage in your Splendor?
Are you in Chennai?
I was born and brought up in Chennai. Had to move to New Delhi as my dad got his transfer to New Delhi..
This relocatiom gave me both good and bad times. Though i didnt want to relocate. This was exactly after i completed my BE in 2009..Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
There is no fear of engine siezing at this stage but yes redlining this old and tired engine will definitely ruin it much faster than expected, if you ride the bike smoothly and in its limits then it will keep serving you for many more miles.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostSorry for this ridiculous question but redlining this old Splendor affect the engine and make it seize?
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I know what people say and i just ignore them as in this world you know what people give advice to others on the matters that they themselves know nothing about. People will give advice on cars and bikes and they will be knowing nothing about HP and Torque. But when you try to distinguish between facts and myths then they will frown and tell that you know everything and all. Like the tag line of hero in splendor ad:- " Lage aisa family jaisa". Its true that it feels like family as Hero bikes run and run and then runs until you get bored. Was thinking of getting the ZMR by selling the CBZ EXTREME but presently in second thoughts as i think i am slowly getting attached to it like my Joy. I know this is my bad habit that i get attached to thing quickly and feel very sad to leave them.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostThe people outside our family saying like above mentioned.Everyone in our family and all my friends and everyone in my friends circle and family has Hero bikes except one friend who had a Pulsar. Now, he sold the Pulsar and bought a Karizma ZMR.I will rate Hero as the No. 1 Bike manufacturer in India. [MENTION=27501]rreneav1987[/MENTION]Going to change the spark plug ASAP! [MENTION=49419]kusmaker[/MENTION]Oil is new, changed 3 months back. ran about ~1300 kms. Wasn't used that much because dad went to Bangalore.Splendor true top speed for Y2K model is 95 kph. Yours model has a true top speed of 90 kph. Your engine is screaming and vibrating because it is old and thus the compression is low. That is the reason for your low mileage and performance also. since your crank is not making sound, i will ask you to do a top end re-build to make the engine last longer. What you can do is re-bore the engine with USHA pistons, and change the valves and timing chain. This will make the bike silent and pick up and mileage will be back. Will cost you at the most Rs. 2500.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostThanks for the info Mr. Kusmaker!I am sure that the mechanic my dad gave the bike last week just opened the carburettor and closed it not even cleaned. And sparkplug, He just removed it first, cleaned carb and just the sparkplug was put in. He charged Rs. 250 for this work
.Sprocket kit is Rs. 580 and labour is Rs. 200!! The usual mechanic where i usually go quoted Rs. 70 only. Triple the cost
Pegasus used to make a tak-tak sound while accelerating in first gear and frequently at second gear. Now it has gone.In the enjoyment, Pulled a wheelie hard in first gear!! Redlined in first gear!!! Been able to touch ~27 kmph in first gear (WOT). Suddenly left the accelerator since the Pegasus screamed. There was vibrations in the tank and it went above that The sound was tremendously high at WOT. Top Speed about 75 kmph. Is this top speed ok? I have never tested the top speed of my Pegasus. My friends claim about 83-89 kmph of their Splendor. After all these things, it returned a horrible 30 kmpl. 50 kmpl to 30 kmpl just by redlining and top speed checking?At your stage the engine will seize as the bore is having low compression, but if the engine has like new compression then this engine is very tough to seize as long as their is engine oil in it. I fear that my CBZ engine will seize but have no such fear on my Joy. I have ridden the joy for 40 km with WOT at speedo indicated 110 kph in heat of may at 46 degrees. And yes the Joy has more top speed because it is has more torque and thus have taller gears.Moreover when i was on a trip 4 years ago, my Joy engine seized on the highway due to a faulty piston during engine re-build. But still i completed the trip of 500 km with my mother without even topping the engine oil, and rode it for another 150 km in city before handing over to mechanic for boring. While the engine was seized, you will be surprised to know that when the engine was cooler bike will catch 80-90 kph in a jiffy even with two up. As the engine heated the bike will not cross 50 kph. And that 500 km trip was completed with 40 kilometers of ghat roads with steep up hill sections. So these engine are built robust and lasts long, Really long. I have learnt from experience that when you re-built these engine never go for lathe job. Always go for new bore kit, new crank, new clutch section and new timing section. Do this as a set and bike will run for another 1.5 lacs before requiring overhaul.Sorry for hijacking your thread as i have enough experience and memoirs with my Joy that i can speak day in and out, and may be you can find something useful in it.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostSorry for this ridiculous question but redlining this old Splendor affect the engine and make it seize?Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide
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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
To the threadstarter:- unless you are ready for a long and tedious restoration process, sell the bike and buy a new one. Peace of mind.
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My dad was going to sell. But, I stopped him and cried for not to sell the bike. I have lots of memories associated with this bike.Originally posted by Bibhu View PostTo the threadstarter:- unless you are ready for a long and tedious restoration process, sell the bike and buy a new one. Peace of mind.
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Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!
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We all have memories associated with our bikes. That however does not mean that all of us have the means or determination to keep them alive. It may seem very romantic to keep fighting for a lost cause, but it isnt always practical. More often than not people bite off more than they can chew. Take it from a person who restores bikes on a regular bassis.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostMy dad was going to sell. But, I stopped him and cried for not to sell the bike. I have lots of memories associated with this bike.
But, in the end, it is your choice. Make a wise one rather than a sentimental one.
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Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!
One small question.. How can your dad sell the bike?? I mean, I remember you said you lost the RC. In that case, selling the bike isn't possible unless you sell it illegallyOriginally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostMy dad was going to sell. But, I stopped him and cried for not to sell the bike. I have lots of memories associated with this bike.Splendor - 2k to 2006
Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
ZMR - 2010 to Forever
RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
RayZ - 2015 til now
Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now
Delhi to Narkanda
Delhi to Coimbatore
Delhi to Nepal
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I believe you did the right thing by not letting your father selling the bike, selling a bike is one very easy option but to give her new life is something much more exicting and much more satisfying, secondly restoring this bike (whenever the times come) shouldn't be a problem at all,(not like 2strokes) the same product is still selling in large numbers in the market. Just keep the bike with you take good care of the bike and in return bike will take good care of you.Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View PostMy dad was going to sell. But, I stopped him and cried for not to sell the bike. I have lots of memories associated with this bike.
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I wld beg to differ. Restoring a 2 stroke is rather easy. Everytime you take to restoring a 4 stroke, especially a small capacity 4 stroke, things get real nasty.Originally posted by kusmaker View PostI believe you did the right thing by not letting your father selling the bike, selling a bike is one very easy option but to give her new life is something much more exicting and much more satisfying, secondly restoring this bike (whenever the times come) shouldn't be a problem at all,(not like 2strokes) the same product is still selling in large numbers in the market. Just keep the bike with you take good care of the bike and in return bike will take good care of you.
Simple equation. Less moving parts = less worries. In a 4t single, no matter how carefully done, once repaired its very hard to get it back to optimum performance. There is always a chance of cascading faliure. Which is why i never recomend people to take on small capacity 4t restores which are rather replaceable.
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Sorry. It was going to put in scrap.Originally posted by rreneav1987 View PostOne small question.. How can your dad sell the bike?? I mean, I remember you said you lost the RC. In that case, selling the bike isn't possible unless you sell it illegally-----------
Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!
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Originally posted by Bibhu View PostI wld beg to differ. Restoring a 2 stroke is rather easy. Everytime you take to restoring a 4 stroke, especially a small capacity 4 stroke, things get real nasty.
Simple equation. Less moving parts = less worries. In a 4t single, no matter how carefully done, once repaired its very hard to get it back to optimum performance. There is always a chance of cascading faliure. Which is why i never recomend people to take on small capacity 4t restores which are rather replaceable.
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With all due respect big brother, i don't totally agree with you, it's the mechanics who makes mockery of an engine, yeah there are more moving parts, but more or less parts has nothing to do with rebuilding of an engine, i have seen even 2strokes engine being messed up by the mechanics, it all depends on how knowledgeable you are yourself or the mechanic who is going to work on the engine, plus selling a splendor and again buying splendor dosen't make any sense,instead it's better to rebuild the engine of this bike, and moreover it's just an 100cc engine with simple mechanicals it's no rocket science, if he uses genuine spares and repack the engine properly i think then the bike will again be fit for another 1,00,000kms
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More than the mechanics, it is the nature of the engine that defeats the purpose of a rebuild. What you may or may not have seen is a different issue. Everyone learns from their own experience. It is a fact that when a small cap 4t is rebuilt, more often than not it ends up bad. Be it a splendor, activa or a boxer. Any type of engine, smaller n numourus moving parts make it very hard for a rebuild. The reason why i said this endouver might end badly is because the person might not be fully aware of the tediousness of a rebuild. If he thinks he is up to it, he can try it. All we can do is give him a piece of our minds. I am being the voice of reason. Thats it.Originally posted by kusmaker View PostWith all due respect big brother, i don't totally agree with you, it's the mechanics who makes mockery of an engine, yeah there are more moving parts, but more or less parts has nothing to do with rebuilding of an engine, i have seen even 2strokes engine being messed up by the mechanics, it all depends on how knowledgeable you are yourself or the mechanic who is going to work on the engine, plus selling a splendor and again buying splendor dosen't make any sense,instead it's better to rebuild the engine of this bike, and moreover it's just an 100cc engine with simple mechanicals it's no rocket science, if he uses genuine spares and repack the engine properly i think then the bike will again be fit for another 1,00,000kms
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