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  • #46
    Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

    Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
    With all due respect big brother, i don't totally agree with you, it's the mechanics who makes mockery of an engine, yeah there are more moving parts, but more or less parts has nothing to do with rebuilding of an engine, i have seen even 2strokes engine being messed up by the mechanics, it all depends on how knowledgeable you are yourself or the mechanic who is going to work on the engine, plus selling a splendor and again buying splendor dosen't make any sense,instead it's better to rebuild the engine of this bike, and moreover it's just an 100cc engine with simple mechanicals it's no rocket science, if he uses genuine spares and repack the engine properly i think then the bike will again be fit for another 1,00,000kms
    Well I had along with my Mech opened up my discover 112 that has ran around 2.5 lakh kms twice once for a bore kit change valve lapping timing chain replacement and another time when one miscreant put sand in my engine oil chamber well to be honest I would any day prefer opening my 2 strokes than the small capacity 4 strokes the problem being the head part the various miniature parts of the valve train resembles more clockwork to me I know there are guys who have ran much more kms with some nudging twice my odo reading and are much more confident in mantling n dismantling the engines but what I think is that the chances of failure is more in these bikes or the bike won't perform according to your expectations which ultimately defeats the point of a restoration build...
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    • #47
      Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

      Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
      I wld beg to differ. Restoring a 2 stroke is rather easy. Everytime you take to restoring a 4 stroke, especially a small capacity 4 stroke, things get real nasty.

      Simple equation. Less moving parts = less worries. In a 4t single, no matter how carefully done, once repaired its very hard to get it back to optimum performance. There is always a chance of cascading faliure. Which is why i never recomend people to take on small capacity 4t restores which are rather replaceable.
      Yep, restoring two strokes is easier (but sadly for a bike like rx100,shogun etc.. the bore and other engine components aren't easily available and quality is always a doubt ) - so their rebuild is if you may say trickier/challenging.
      And these small 4 strokes are pretty simple to rebuild with maybe a little more work involved and genuine parts being easily available. I ve seen a number of rebuilt 4s's with a new bore kit/re-bore running just fine (in fact sometimes better than an rx100 rebuild)
      Well again, it comes down to the mechanic (with most being able to rebuild a splendor/activa with their eyes closed, my mech who works on only activas can strip and rebuild it in 90 minutes and do a good job at it.) or should i say the 'human' who works on it.. to err is human
      Last edited by s1d; 08-08-2014, 12:59 AM.

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      • #48
        Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

        Ok! an interesting debate is going on re-build and i would like to brag in. Regarding the re-build then let me tell you that 4 strokes re-built is not difficult. Even 4 strokes engine if properly re-built will perform better than new engine. And this is coming from me, who has opened many four stroke engines, and even my Joy two times. The problem with four stroke bikes re-build is that placement of rings in bore and valve work. Usually in 2 strokes the rings are placed according to grooves on the piston. But in 4 stroke engine it is placed according to the ring gaps. Anybody messes with one ring, there starts the problem, like engine not idling, consuming oil. low compression, e.t.c. Similarly in head the way the valves are polished and timing are set makes or breaks the engine. Faulty valve polishing improper timing adjustment will cause the bike to bog down and perform poorly. I agree that two strokers are easy because of less parts but four stroke engines are also very easy. Its just that what you perceive, because a person who is working on 2 strokes will find the four strokes to be quite complicated. But like me if anybody is working on four stroke engines from beginning then its a piece of cake. You can have a look at splendor thread where i have posted my last engine re-build, and the whole engine was dis-assembled and re-fitted in one hour. So nothing is difficult but it depends on the person working, and four stroke engine can be re-build to perfection if the person working on it has basic knowledge of four stroke engines.
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        • #49
          Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

          Sibun, its not about how many engines anyone of us has rebuilt or about whether it can be done. Ofcourse it can be rebuilt properly, the question is whether the threadstarter can get it done. Its not like we are going to do it for him. He will probably visit an asc or a mechanic who will do it. This coupled with the cost for rebuilding a near 2 decade old bike, which is still available in the market, might not be the solution he is looking for. In short, he may not be aware of the issues of a rebuild gone wrong.

          Afterall, his father was ready to scrap the bike. So it is logical to assume that the bike may not be worth rebuilding to them. It is a practical point of view i have in this matter. I have nothing against 4 strokes. I own 2 as well. But at some point things have to be let go off if there is an option. So I suggested that he should sell the bike and get something that would give him a trouble and hassle free ride for years to come.

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          Last edited by Bibhu; 08-08-2014, 11:22 AM.
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          • #50
            Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

            Interesting discussion! Let me bring some popcorn. You guys continue the healthy banter!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
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            • #51
              Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              Interesting discussion! Let me bring some popcorn. You guys continue the healthy banter!

              You sound like a Devil mod here..
              Splendor - 2k to 2006
              Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
              P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
              Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
              ZMR - 2010 to Forever
              RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
              Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
              RayZ - 2015 til now
              Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


              Delhi to Narkanda
              Delhi to Coimbatore
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              • #52
                Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                In the end we haven't reached anywhere, whether this flynn pegasus will keep flying or her wings will be cut is now totally upto his owner, he has got lot of feedback about whether to rebuild or to not, point being any engine can be rebuild thats for sure it's not about in how many strokes engine makes power stroke, all that matter is how capable or how much strong hearted the owner of the vehicle is, even if this person purchase a new vehicle then also he has to go to mechanics for any kind of trouble he faces in his vehicle you can't runaway from mechanics, just find a good mechanic, try to learn on your own, sit with the mechanic whenever you want to rebuild the engine, use genuine parts, and that's it.

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                • #53
                  Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                  Mechanic rode my Pegasus and said engine is good in feel and power. I don't know how a engine nearing to 2L kms is good in power.
                  Mileage is the thing to look on!
                  Air filter box's 3 screws were missing yesterday. Also the side cover's lock has been broken
                  Some idiotic thieves should stolen

                  Put the screws.
                  Battery found dead, instrumentals and switch clusters dead(everything except light).
                  So removed the battery and indicators and put both of them inside store room and locked!

                  Time is nearing and nearing to part ways
                  Dad going to book a wego next month.
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                  Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!

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                  • #54
                    Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                    Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                    Mechanic rode my Pegasus and said engine is good in feel and power. I don't know how a engine nearing to 2L kms is good in power.
                    Mileage is the thing to look on!
                    Air filter box's 3 screws were missing yesterday. Also the side cover's lock has been broken
                    Some idiotic thieves should stolen

                    Put the screws.
                    Battery found dead, instrumentals and switch clusters dead(everything except light).
                    So removed the battery and indicators and put both of them inside store room and locked!

                    Time is nearing and nearing to part ways
                    Dad going to book a wego next month.

                    One word for this wego scooter "Bakwaas", instead Activa 125 is a much better.

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                    • #55
                      Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                      Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                      One word for this wego scooter "Bakwaas", instead Activa 125 is a much better.
                      Going to buy a scooter from CSD. Activa 125 is not in CSD

                      Speedo error is there! noticed today!!
                      When I was riding on a open road, I saw the speedo. It was only 25 kmph, I was in 3rd cog with WOT. Shifted to 4th cog and in WOT, Speedo needle was not crossing the 40 kmph mark.
                      How to rectify it?
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                      Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!

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                      • #56
                        Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                        Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                        Going to buy a scooter from CSD. Activa 125 is not in CSD

                        Speedo error is there! noticed today!!
                        When I was riding on a open road, I saw the speedo. It was only 25 kmph, I was in 3rd cog with WOT. Shifted to 4th cog and in WOT, Speedo needle was not crossing the 40 kmph mark.
                        How to rectify it?


                        There can be no of things to check out, first check the worm gear inside the drum, check for the free movement of the cable, sometimes speedometer itself gets jammed, the gears inside the speedometer needs lubrication, get the speedometer serviced and the problemx should solve, but if you have already made up the mind for selling the vehicle then there is no point in spending money on the bike.

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                        • #57
                          Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                          Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                          There can be no of things to check out, first check the worm gear inside the drum, check for the free movement of the cable, sometimes speedometer itself gets jammed, the gears inside the speedometer needs lubrication, get the speedometer serviced and the problemx should solve, but if you have already made up the mind for selling the vehicle then there is no point in spending money on the bike.
                          Not selling the bike now! After 6-8 Months!
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                          Disclaimer - The above post is written without any gender, regional or otherwise bias and in a positive frank tone. Any other interpretation is the reader's imagination, not mine!

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                          • #58
                            Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                            Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                            There can be no of things to check out, first check the worm gear inside the drum, check for the free movement of the cable, sometimes speedometer itself gets jammed, the gears inside the speedometer needs lubrication, get the speedometer serviced and the problemx should solve, but if you have already made up the mind for selling the vehicle then there is no point in spending money on the bike.
                            Originally posted by RVSB-RocketVicknySuperBoy View Post
                            Not selling the bike now! After 6-8 Months!
                            One quick question and I keep getting confused. How can we sell a product without the RC?? Isn't it illegal?
                            Splendor - 2k to 2006
                            Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                            P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                            Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                            ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                            RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                            Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                            RayZ - 2015 til now
                            Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                            Delhi to Narkanda
                            Delhi to Coimbatore
                            Delhi to Nepal

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                            • #59
                              Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                              Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                              One quick question and I keep getting confused. How can we sell a product without the RC?? Isn't it illegal?
                              (RTO) Agents boss!

                              P.S - I'm completely against such practices, only that TS has no other option. Yes, it is illegal.
                              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                              • #60
                                Re: The Flynn Pegasus - Hero Honda Splendor '97!

                                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                                (RTO) Agents boss!

                                P.S - I'm completely against such practices, only that TS has no other option. Yes, it is illegal.
                                But will the bike fetch back that money spent on the agents?? Is it even worth it?? The bike might at max fetch 5000 and being a 4 stroke, i doubt that much as well..
                                Splendor - 2k to 2006
                                Karizma - 2k3 to 2009
                                P180 - 2k6 to 2k9
                                Hunk - Oct 2k7 til now
                                ZMR - 2010 to Forever
                                RX135(2k) - 2013 to 2018
                                Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                                RayZ - 2015 til now
                                Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


                                Delhi to Narkanda
                                Delhi to Coimbatore
                                Delhi to Nepal

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