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**sid54321** · 06-29-2016, 12:37 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Both bikes are almost same with same level of rider/pillion comfort, power and performance. Suzuki Gixxer requires less maintenance cost (30% less service charges than Honda for same frame of work done), they put Motul engine oil in bike which one of the best quality in world. But you may get more number of service centers for Honda in comparison to Suzuki which hardly have one or two in a city.
Look wise Hornet is fresh and looks good too (for me Gixxer looks much bigger and stylish than Hornet but negligibly, whenever i see hornet i think this one is good and when i look at my Gixxer feels no bike bellow 200 CC looks better than it).

My priorities are
1.Performance(Mostly city Riding (ie) 30kmph-60kmph): Both bikes will do good for this range.
2.Mileage: Mileage is better in Gixxer (in the range of 45-50).
3.Durability (Including Less maintenance): Durability is same for both bike, maintenance is marginally low for Gixxer.
4.Looks (In my personal view Hornet looks better): As discussed above.
5.Handling (Since its city ride most of the time need to face lots of traffic): Both bikes are same but Gixxer's engine is slightly more refined and body design helps with better center of gravity (you can tilt your bike and touch surface with your knees easily).

Ground clearance is good and same for both your will hardly scrap any speed breaker with pillion till any of you is not very heavy.

Originally posted by dineshjdh View Post

Hi,
I am new to xbhp.com and am planning to buy my 1st bike

Mind is oscillating between Gixxer and Hornet

My priorities are

1.Performance(Mostly city Riding (ie) 30kmph-60kmph)
2.Mileage
3.Durability (Including Less maintenance)
4.Looks (In my personal view Hornet looks better)
5.Handling (Since its city ride most of the time need to face lots of traffic)

Ground clearance is good and same for both your will hardly scrap any speed breaker with pillion till any of you is not very heavy.

Is there any issue in ground clearence
How comfortable is pillion seat
Any rusting problem

Mainly suggest which is better for city ride.

**dineshjdh** · 06-29-2016, 01:47 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by sid54321 View Post

Both bikes are almost same with same level of rider/pillion comfort, power and performance. Suzuki Gixxer requires less maintenance cost (30% less service charges than Honda for same frame of work done), they put Motul engine oil in bike which one of the best quality in world. But you may get more number of service centers for Honda in comparison to Suzuki which hardly have one or two in a city.
Look wise Hornet is fresh and looks good too (for me Gixxer looks much bigger and stylish than Hornet but negligibly, whenever i see hornet i think this one is good and when i look at my Gixxer feels no bike bellow 200 CC looks better than it).

My priorities are
1.Performance(Mostly city Riding (ie) 30kmph-60kmph): Both bikes will do good for this range.
2.Mileage: Mileage is better in Gixxer (in the range of 45-50).
3.Durability (Including Less maintenance): Durability is same for both bike, maintenance is marginally low for Gixxer.
4.Looks (In my personal view Hornet looks better): As discussed above.
5.Handling (Since its city ride most of the time need to face lots of traffic): Both bikes are same but Gixxer's engine is slightly more refined and body design helps with better center of gravity (you can tilt your bike and touch surface with your knees easily).

Ground clearance is good and same for both your will hardly scrap any speed breaker with pillion till any of you is not very heavy.

thanks for your clear suggestion. will book one in a couple of days.

**prasath_xbhp** · 06-29-2016, 03:25 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Srvn View Post

You are absolutely right. xW50 will never affect acceleration, as you have rightly said "W50 is the viscosity of the oil at max optimal operating temp".

Say in case you are say running on 20Wx or 20Wx would have affect on acceleration when actually 10Wx was recommended, as 20Wx would be thicker than say 10Wx or 15Wx. So to summarize 10W50 or even a 15W50 would not affect the acceleration where as 20W50 might, may be slight to moderate difference. Currently my friend's sf is running on 5100 15W50 and runs like charm. With Bassy exhaust note!

Somebody here in xbhp, infact is running on 20w50 and reported the performance was good too.

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nice to hear that the semi-synthetic 5100 15W50 works good on the SF....next time can he try the fully-synthetic 7100 10W50 ?

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yes sir, for sure Oil is a big, complex topic. and yes suzuki does recommends 10W40 for the Gixxer. both their OE oils, the Mineral oil by Motul and the Semi-Synthetic Oil by Idemitsu were both 10W40 grades....

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Originally posted by sid54321 View Post

Both bikes are almost same with same level of rider/pillion comfort, power and performance. Suzuki Gixxer requires less maintenance cost (30% less service charges than Honda for same frame of work done), they put Motul engine oil in bike which one of the best quality in world. But you may get more number of service centers for Honda in comparison to Suzuki which hardly have one or two in a city.
Look wise Hornet is fresh and looks good too (for me Gixxer looks much bigger and stylish than Hornet but negligibly, whenever i see hornet i think this one is good and when i look at my Gixxer feels no bike bellow 200 CC looks better than it).

yes well said....even though Gixxer is my personal favourite 150CC currently.....manufacturer and service support wise Honda is better....but still Gixxer edges out the Hornet IMO...

**Srvn** · 06-29-2016, 03:43 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by prasath_xbhp View Post

nice to hear that the semi-synthetic 5100 15W50 works good on the SF....next time can he try the fully-synthetic 7100 10W50 ?

Lol!

He is not a hard core biker, I take care of his ride hence the 5100. Nope no 7100 for SF/Gixxer ;-) IMHO it is an over kill for SF/Gixxer.

His SF does not run a lot, it hardly runs 250 kms a month and also a sane rider he is, so 7100 with a 5k kms interval is a waste of money since we do not follow oil change every service because of number of kms covered is very less, we just change the oil with oil filter at 2.2k to 2.5k kms or 4 or 4.5 months which ever comes first. Hence i feel 5100 fits SF very well. Regarding 7100 I have been running on it on my D200 and imo 5100 15w50 is an awesome oil which I had used for 2.5k kms on my D200 before switching to full synth oil (7100).

Lets wait to hear from other Gixxer/SF owners if there is oil leakage/seepage as a result of running on 7100, because I remember reading it here in the past somebody is running on it.

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Originally posted by dineshjdh View Post

thanks for your clear suggestion. will book one in a couple of days.

Let us know after you have booked one. I could see you saying you are going to book Hornet soon on the Hornet ownership page and the same for Gixxer in here, it is understandable you are pretty excited and want to book one. Please test ride both of them back to back, many more than once and finalize for your self, go by what your heart says as both Gixxer and Hornet owners have given their opinions, it is now your turn to decide and tell us which one you chose.

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**Suraj200** · 06-29-2016, 03:53 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Srvn View Post

Lol!

He is not a hard core biker, I take care of his ride hence the 5100. Nope no 7100 for SF/Gixxer ;-) IMHO it is an over kill for SF/Gixxer.

His SF does not run a lot, it hardly runs 250 kms a month and also a sane rider he is, so 7100 with a 5k kms interval is a waste of money since we do not follow oil change every service because of number of kms covered is very less, we just change the oil with oil filter at 2.2k to 2.5k kms or 4 or 4.5 months which ever comes first. Hence i feel 5100 fits SF very well. Regarding 7100 I have been running on it on my D200 and imo 5100 15w50 is an awesome oil which I had used for 2.5k kms on my D200 before switching to full synth oil (7100).

Lets wait to hear from other Gixxer/SF owners if there is oil leakage/seepage as a result of running on 7100, because I remember reading it here in the past somebody is running on it.

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Let us know after you have booked one. I could see you saying you are going to book Hornet soon on the Hornet ownership page and the same for Gixxer in here, it is understandable you are pretty excited and want to book one. Please test ride both of them back to back, many more than once and finalize for your self, go by what your heart says as both Gixxer and Hornet owners have given their opinions, it is now your turn to decide and tell us which one you chose.

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Srvn

If i am not wrong the full-synt oil is used for bikes with higher compression ratio, due to iits high resistance to heat.

**prasath_xbhp** · 06-29-2016, 04:06 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Srvn View Post

Lol!

He is not a hard core biker, I take care of his ride hence the 5100. Nope no 7100 for SF/Gixxer ;-) IMHO it is an over kill for SF/Gixxer.

His SF does not run a lot, it hardly runs 250 kms a month and also a sane rider he is, so 7100 with a 5k kms interval is a waste of money since we do not follow oil change every service because of number of kms covered is very less, we just change the oil with oil filter at 2.2k to 2.5k kms or 4 or 4.5 months which ever comes first. Hence i feel 5100 fits SF very well. Regarding 7100 I have been running on it on my D200 and imo 5100 15w50 is an awesome oil which I had used for 2.5k kms on my D200 before switching to full synth oil (7100).

Lets wait to hear from other Gixxer/SF owners if there is oil leakage/seepage as a result of running on 7100, because I remember reading it here in the past somebody is running on it.
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Srvn

your reply is great man thanks for the clarification....

I see so the 5100 is sufficient for the Gixxer engine....and yes I did hear from Duke 200 owners that 90% of them stick to the 7100 as its recommended by KTM....you see still some suzuki dealers here in chennai currently don't stock the Mineral Oil by Motul anymore...they just have the semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil...even though both these oil have the same grade ( 10W40 ). I wonder if its good to use a semi-synthetic in a new engine?. what if a customer buys a new gixxer?. will they just top it up with the semi-synthetic oil?.

currently I want buy an oil for my father's 2000 Suzuki Fiero...I've asked my question in the Fiero/FieroF2/FieroFX thread....( kindly check that out ) and i've been told to use mineral oil as semi-synthetic is an over-kill for the fiero.

To my knowledge, we should use minerail oil in a new engine and can move to semi ( OR ) fully synthetic ( as per manufacturer recommended grade ) above 10000KMS...plz correct me if I am wrong.....

I've posted the Suzuki OE oil pics for your reference....

Suzuki OE Mineral Oil ( Motul ) :-

Suzuki OE Semi-Synthetic Oil ( Idemitsu ) :-

**Srvn** · 06-29-2016, 05:09 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by prasath_xbhp View Post

your reply is great man thanks for the clarification....

I see so the 5100 is sufficient for the Gixxer engine....and yes I did hear from Duke 200 owners that 90% of them stick to the 7100 as its recommended by KTM....you see still some suzuki dealers here in chennai currently don't stock the Mineral Oil by Motul anymore...they just have the semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil...even though both these oil have the same grade ( 10W40 ). I wonder if its good to use a semi-synthetic in a new engine?. what if a customer buys a new gixxer?. will they just top it up with the semi-synthetic oil?.

currently I want buy an oil for my father's 2000 Suzuki Fiero...I've asked my question in the Fiero/FieroF2/FieroFX thread....( kindly check that out ) and i've been told to use mineral oil as semi-synthetic is an over-kill for the fiero.

To my knowledge, we should use minerail oil in a new engine and can move to semi ( OR ) fully synthetic ( as per manufacturer recommended grade ) above 10000KMS...plz correct me if I am wrong.....

I've posted the Suzuki OE oil pics for your reference....

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You are right, most Suzuki svc does not stock mineral motul oil. at 2.5k kms on the odo we were forced to switch to idemitsu ss oil because none of the suzuki svc in around 6 kms radius had motul mineral oil. I did search for 10w40, 10w50, 15w40, 15w50 graded mineral oil but could not find, hence settled for idemitsu ss oil. I hear that motul mineral is still stocked at few svc's, you better buy from them and take it during oil change if you need so. I believe mineral oil comes as stock in new Gixxer and not ss oil.

Not intended to start an oil war, I am only writing my opinion, please feel free to ignore if you think I am being wrong and not start a debate. I believe mineral oil is always best for a new engine (though motorcycle engines comes prefilled with full synth oils these days). NO, if you buy new Gixxer they(svc) won't top up (assuming you referring to first service) they will drain the old oil and replace with new, probably idemitsu ss oil if you not insist for motul mineral.

10k kms is not hard pressed rule. It totally depends how you have broken in your engine. On my D200 I switched to ss oil at 700kms on odo (meanwhile I had changed oil once before, call me crazy! ) and switched to full synth at 6.5k kms. On the SF as I said in my previous post, switched to ss oil at 2.5k kms with 2 oils changes before that. I would have wanted to change to ss oil at 4 or 5k kms but anyway we were still ok with ss as well.

Couldn't find the fiero thread, please share the url. P.S: I am no expert in oils for other older bikes, fiero owners are best to answer to that query.

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Originally posted by Suraj200 View Post

If i am not wrong the full-synt oil is used for bikes with higher compression ratio, due to iits high resistance to heat.

High compression, high revving, more cc and bhp and so on imo.

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**prasath_xbhp** · 06-29-2016, 05:26 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Srvn View Post

You are right, most Suzuki svc does not stock mineral motul oil. at 2.5k kms on the odo we were forced to switch to idemitsu ss oil because none of the suzuki svc in around 6 kms radius had motul mineral oil. I did search for 10w40, 10w50, 15w40, 15w50 graded mineral oil but could not find, hence settled for idemitsu ss oil. I hear that motul mineral is still stocked at few svc's, you better buy from them and take it during oil change if you need so. I believe mineral oil comes as stock in new Gixxer and not ss oil.

Not intended to start an oil war, I am only writing my opinion, please feel free to ignore if you think I am being wrong and not start a debate. I believe mineral oil is always best for a new engine (though motorcycle engines comes prefilled with full synth oils these days). NO, if you buy new Gixxer they(svc) won't top up (assuming you referring to first service) they will drain the old oil and replace with new, probably idemitsu ss oil if you not insist for motul mineral.

10k kms is not hard pressed rule. It totally depends how you have broken in your engine. On my D200 I switched to ss oil at 700kms on odo (meanwhile I had changed oil once before, call me crazy! ) and switched to full synth at 6.5k kms. On the SF as I said in my previous post, switched to ss oil at 2.5k kms with 2 oils changes before that. I would have wanted to change to ss oil at 4 or 5k kms but anyway we were still ok with ss as well.

Couldn't find the fiero thread, please share the url. P.S: I am no expert in oils for other older bikes, fiero owners are best to answer to that query.

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Srvn

yes I bought the 10W40 semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil for Rs. 390/- at OMS Suzuki here in chennai. after that I asked them about the motul oil they said they are not using it anymore and told me to stick with the ss idemitsu....then I enquired SMK Suzuki which is one of the major suzuki dealer in chennai as they are the only dealer for Suzuki Superbikes in chennai....even repeated what OMS Suzuki told me.....then to my relief, I found ABT Suzuki who told they have the motul oil....I bought it from them for Rs. 308/-. they just unpacked a box and gave me one 1L can...they still had another unopened box of motul oil ( each box can contain atleast 20 1L cans

).....they even showed me a can of semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil which has a grade of 20W40 and priced at Rs. 270/-.

**Freak inExile** · 06-29-2016, 06:38 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by prasath_xbhp View Post

yes I bought the 10W40 semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil for Rs. 390/- at OMS Suzuki here in chennai. after that I asked them about the motul oil they said they are not using it anymore and told me to stick with the ss idemitsu....then I enquired SMK Suzuki which is one of the major suzuki dealer in chennai as they are the only dealer for Suzuki Superbikes in chennai....even repeated what OMS Suzuki told me.....then to my relief, I found ABT Suzuki who told they have the motul oil....I bought it from them for Rs. 308/-. they just unpacked a box and gave me one 1L can...they still had another unopened box of motul oil ( each box can contain atleast 20 1L cans

).....they even showed me a can of semi-synthetic Idemitsu Oil which has a grade of 20W40 and priced at Rs. 270/-.

Apparently:
Idemitsu 10W40 semi-synthetic - Rs. 390/- => Not JASO certified
Idemitsu 20W40 Mineral - Rs. 270/- => JASO MA2 certified
Motul 10W40 Mineral - Rs. 308/- => JASO MA2 certified ---- Suzuki's understanding with Motul or Motul's bottling 10w40 in India is being hampered.

**sid54321** · 06-29-2016, 11:45 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Srvn View Post

Lol!

He is not a hard core biker, I take care of his ride hence the 5100. Nope no 7100 for SF/Gixxer ;-) IMHO it is an over kill for SF/Gixxer.

His SF does not run a lot, it hardly runs 250 kms a month and also a sane rider he is, so 7100 with a 5k kms interval is a waste of money since we do not follow oil change every service because of number of kms covered is very less, we just change the oil with oil filter at 2.2k to 2.5k kms or 4 or 4.5 months which ever comes first. Hence i feel 5100 fits SF very well. Regarding 7100 I have been running on it on my D200 and imo 5100 15w50 is an awesome oil which I had used for 2.5k kms on my D200 before switching to full synth oil (7100).

Lets wait to hear from other Gixxer/SF owners if there is oil leakage/seepage as a result of running on 7100, because I remember reading it here in the past somebody is running on it.

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Let us know after you have booked one. I could see you saying you are going to book Hornet soon on the Hornet ownership page and the same for Gixxer in here, it is understandable you are pretty excited and want to book one. Please test ride both of them back to back, many more than once and finalize for your self, go by what your heart says as both Gixxer and Hornet owners have given their opinions, it is now your turn to decide and tell us which one you chose.

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Srvn

No issues bro, let him choose whichever he likes, after all we are here to share info and help each other 😊😊😊.

**dineshjdh** · 06-30-2016, 12:23 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by sid54321 View Post

No issues bro, let him choose whichever he likes, after all we are here to share info and help each other 😊😊😊.

Its seriously very hard to pick one among the two. Going for a test drive this weekend and book the one which suits my taste

. Thanks for everyone who helped me here

**sid54321** · 06-30-2016, 09:21 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

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Originally posted by dineshjdh View Post

Its seriously very hard to pick one among the two. Going for a test drive this weekend and book the one which suits my taste

. Thanks for everyone who helped me here

Both are neck to neck now only deciding factor may be your girlfriend /wife's choice 😂😂😂...(joking please don't feel annoyed)...or if you can manage budget for Gixxer sf that is best among any under 1 lakh bike with extremely improved ergonomics...

**Deathwing** · 06-30-2016, 11:02 AM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

I have come across people having more problems on the hornet, the gixxer now is a tried and tested bike.

**dineshjdh** · 06-30-2016, 12:55 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

I have come across people having more problems on the hornet, the gixxer now is a tried and tested bike.

What kind of issues?

**Deathwing** · 06-30-2016, 01:20 PM

Re: Suzuki Gixxer 155

Originally posted by dineshjdh View Post

What kind of issues?

Like they complain bikes struggles past 100kmph like a lot, starting issues , lack of engine kill switch, a few more noteworthy ones. I have never rode the hornet, but the gixxer I have from what I noticed, its a very ideal bike for city use n occasional highway use.

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