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  • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

    Originally posted by Rahul.V. View Post
    Hello guys,
    I've found some green liquid deposit in the fuel tank gap between the fuel cap and the hole of the tank. It smells like fuel but it gets deposited on a cold day and won't be there on a hotter days.


    It seems though your reservoir tube is blocked or kinked which is bypassing the common drain which is also fuel filler neck drainage. Get them checked by removing the side panels and make sure the hoses are free of kinks and blocks.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

      I just purchased a set of Pirelli Rosso 2 tires for the first time from Amazon. The rear tire is 2016 batch but the front is Oct 2015. I am concerned about the front tire as i seems to be rather heavy and more worryingly very stiff (even the sidewalls), while the rear tire carcass/rubber is a much more compliant. Has anyone used these tires? Does what i describe sound okay or should i take a hit and order a new front tire?
      Last edited by incipient; 07-31-2019, 05:20 PM.

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      • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

        Originally posted by incipient View Post
        I just purchased a set of Pirelli Rosso 2 tires for the first time from Amazon. The rear tire is 2016 batch but the front is Oct 2015. I am concerned about the front tire as i seems to be rather heavy and more worryingly very stiff (even the sidewalls), while the rear tire carcass/rubber is a much more compliant. Has anyone used these tires? Does what i describe sound okay or should i take a hit and order a new front tire?
        The tyre is 4 years old already. Going by your explanation, i presume it has become brittle. Never take chance with old tyres. You never know how they are packed and stored. A clean way to store a tyre is to keep it away from moisture but one does not know how this particular tyre was stored. Don't risk it. Go ahead and order a new tire
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        • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

          Originally posted by incipient View Post
          I just purchased a set of Pirelli Rosso 2 tires for the first time from Amazon. The rear tire is 2016 batch but the front is Oct 2015. I am concerned about the front tire as i seems to be rather heavy and more worryingly very stiff (even the sidewalls), while the rear tire carcass/rubber is a much more compliant. Has anyone used these tires? Does what i describe sound okay or should i take a hit and order a new front tire?
          4 yr old 'new' tire is not worth it. kindly return it. amazon's customer care is pretty helpful.. explain the issue at hand.
          if it were me, i would return both of them.

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          • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

            Originally posted by incipient View Post
            I just purchased a set of Pirelli Rosso 2 tires for the first time from Amazon. The rear tire is 2016 batch but the front is Oct 2015.?
            Just one quick question, are you sure you checked the date properly marked on the tyre? There will be stamp on the the right side having Week of the year and Mfg year.

            I am asking this because when I was trying to buy my W rated Rosso 2 back in Jan 2018, my tyre dealer told the tyre was pretty much out of stock everywhere, I even checked on Amazon and it was out of stock. I had to wait 1 month for them to get the tyre.

            So just wondering how some dealer might still have 4 year old tyre stocked with him.
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            • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

              Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

              So just wondering how some dealer might still have 4 year old tyre stocked with him.
              There's one seller on Amazon who has 2015 batch tyres. A few guys from R3 group messaged him to ask for the manufacturing date/week. He said it was the latest (i.e. Second half of 2018) manufactured. So people went ahead and ordered the tyres but when they received it, only the rear was 2018 manufactured while the front was 2015 manufactured which had turned brittle and had minute cracks. Returning it and the refund was another hassle

              So whenever one's buying a tyre, it's good to buy it physically by checking the manufactured dates and the tyre stats and condition
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              • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                Just one quick question, are you sure you checked the date properly marked on the tyre? There will be stamp on the the right side having Week of the year and Mfg year.
                Yes i think i got that right. (typo the rear is 2018)

                2015 is definately borderline. From what i read online, 5 years is generally regarded as the usable life. So, i am sending this back for a refund under Amazon 10-day return policy. Also, i ordered the same tire from another dealer who's selling it for Rs 1k higher, with a hope that the higher price will bring me a newer tire.

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                Originally posted by Ashwiin Napster View Post
                So whenever one's buying a tyre, it's good to buy it physically by checking the manufactured dates and the tyre stats and condition
                I would, if i knew where i got get it from. Even a Pirelli AD i saw in a motorcycle magazine strangely doesn't mention any dealer or even a contact number.

                Anyone know Pirelli or Metzeller dealer in NCR?
                Last edited by incipient; 08-02-2019, 01:07 AM.

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                • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                  Originally posted by incipient View Post
                  I would, if i knew where i got get it from. Even a Pirelli AD i saw in a motorcycle magazine strangely doesn't mention any dealer or even a contact number.
                  What he meant is that it is best advised not to buy Tyres online(or for any perishable items that has an expiry date), if its still possible place a return request of your order.

                  Pirelli website lists so many dealers for NCR region, check their website. One of the dealer is the famous racer, biker, Youtuber "Simran King's" store, get in touch with his store.
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                  • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                    Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post
                    Pirelli website lists so many dealers for NCR region, check their website. One of the dealer is the famous racer, biker, Youtuber "Simran King's" store, get in touch with his store.
                    Thanks, will check them out.

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                    • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                      Need your 2 cents here guys.

                      Check the attached pictures
                      Had my service done about a week ago, saw oil spots in my garage for a while but though they were from my other bikes until today.
                      The culprit is clear that its the oil filter cover.

                      1.Is there a separate gasket (or O ring) for the cover that can be replaced or does the whole cover need to be replaced?
                      2. The guy that works on my bike was previously the head mechanic at KTM and he knows his stuff but he filled my oil to about 1.7 liters, he says that;s how much is needed, is that correct?
                      3. Anything else you guys think i should check and do with the bike? (Oil level is still near the high range)

                      things done on my last service (about a week ago)

                      1. oil change (MOTUL 7100)
                      2. oil filter change
                      3. oil strainer cleaned
                      4. air filter changed
                      5. chain lube and clean



                      I have seen here that mechanics don't really tighten the bolts and nuts at the specified torque as listed in the manuals, they just tight it till they seem its enough, does anyone have a link to the service manual so that i could see the actual specs and tight it as per the manual?

                      Thanks in advance for the feedback


                      Installed the new apollo alpha h1 tyres on my bike, will post a review comming sunday
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                      Last edited by QuadrupleagentZ; 08-07-2019, 02:44 AM.

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                      • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                        Originally posted by QuadrupleagentZ View Post
                        Need your 2 cents here guys.

                        Check the attached pictures
                        Had my service done about a week ago, saw oil spots in my garage for a while but though they were from my other bikes until today.
                        The culprit is clear that its the oil filter cover.

                        1.Is there a separate gasket (or O ring) for the cover that can be replaced or does the whole cover need to be replaced?
                        2. The guy that works on my bike was previously the head mechanic at KTM and he knows his stuff but he filled my oil to about 1.7 liters, he says that;s how much is needed, is that correct?
                        3. Anything else you guys think i should check and do with the bike? (Oil level is still near the high range)

                        things done on my last service (about a week ago)

                        1. oil change (MOTUL 7100)
                        2. oil filter change
                        3. oil strainer cleaned
                        4. air filter changed
                        5. chain lube and clean


                        I have seen here that mechanics don't really tighten the bolts and nuts at the specified torque as listed in the manuals, they just tight it till they seem its enough, does anyone have a link to the service manual so that i could see the actual specs and tight it as per the manual?
                        That is the oil filter cap from where the leak is. It is usually a good practice to replace the O ring (costs 10 bucks) when ever you replace the filter. not doing so, is known to cause oil leaks from that area. some mechanics simply don't bother to replace the O ring and the customer ends up with such a leak. i've seen this happen on a bunch of bike owned by my friends. excess oil, not replacing O ring and you have a good probability of leak.

                        clean that area thoroughly and use a new o ring. you might have to tilt the bike to avoid oil spillage and carefully replace the o ring.
                        Also 1.7 L seems on the higher side.. for a 390, usually fill up around 1.5 L and then idle the bike for 2-3 minutes, shut off, wait 1 minute and then check the oil level with bike Upright and on a flat surface (Without any stand). Add oil in small increments, till its close to or slightly below max level and you should be set. This might end up to around 1.6L ~ 1.7L depending on how much oil actually came out during the drain. I think this is a safer method to get the right amount of oil in engine than simply pour in X amount. iirc there was also an advisory a few months after launch of the 2017-- 390's to reduce the amount of oil poured in vs the initially recommended value.
                        On a 390 usually there are two drain bolts that are to be removed to drain oil.. some mechanics just drain it from the main one on the side and don't touch the one at the bottom.

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                        • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                          Originally posted by QuadrupleagentZ View Post
                          Need your 2 cents here guys.

                          Check the attached pictures
                          Had my service done about a week ago, saw oil spots in my garage for a while but though they were from my other bikes until today.
                          The culprit is clear that its the oil filter cover.

                          1.Is there a separate gasket (or O ring) for the cover that can be replaced or does the whole cover need to be replaced?
                          2. The guy that works on my bike was previously the head mechanic at KTM and he knows his stuff but he filled my oil to about 1.7 liters, he says that;s how much is needed, is that correct?
                          3. Anything else you guys think i should check and do with the bike? (Oil level is still near the high range)
                          1. Yes, the oil filter comes with a O ring which is replaceable and it's a good practice if it's replaced with each oil change. O rings are basically what helps prevent the oil leak from the oil filter cover. If the bolts are not properly torqued or we have a faulty O ring, oil will leak. If you have trouble sourcing the O ring, use Anabond sealant mildly over the circumference of the oil filter cover with the O ring in place and top of the O ring and torque it hand tight, till you feel there is no more resistance that's the best and it will prevent any future leaks.

                          2. 1.7 liters is what people abroad fill and is recommended by KTM too. 1.6 is what's recommended, but nowadays KTM SVC technicians themselves use 1.7 liters, absolutely normal.

                          3.As long as your oil was replaced and NOT TOPPED UP there's nothing to worry. The sight window will appear full, as it's 1.7 liters, nothing to worry. Make sure your engine bay cleaned off the muck, and make sure all the bolts are torqued.

                          Always replace the oil filter O ring each time oil is replaced, and make sure your cover bolts are torqued properly.

                          Hope it helps!

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                          The girl said, 'NO!'


                          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                          THE END

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                          • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                            1. Yes, the oil filter comes with a O ring which is replaceable and it's a good practice if it's replaced with each oil change. O rings are basically what helps prevent the oil leak from the oil filter cover. If the bolts are not properly torqued or we have a faulty O ring, oil will leak. If you have trouble sourcing the O ring, use Anabond sealant mildly over the circumference of the oil filter cover with the O ring in place and top of the O ring and torque it hand tight, till you feel there is no more resistance that's the best and it will prevent any future leaks.

                            2. 1.7 liters is what people abroad fill and is recommended by KTM too. 1.6 is what's recommended, but nowadays KTM SVC technicians themselves use 1.7 liters, absolutely normal.

                            3.As long as your oil was replaced and NOT TOPPED UP there's nothing to worry. The sight window will appear full, as it's 1.7 liters, nothing to worry. Make sure your engine bay cleaned off the muck, and make sure all the bolts are torqued.

                            Always replace the oil filter O ring each time oil is replaced, and make sure your cover bolts are torqued properly.

                            Hope it helps!

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Thanks both of you for your info

                            But this just happened

                            I bought the new O ring and when I went to remove the Bolts of the oil filter cap their head came out

                            I didn’t even apply force
                            One of the heads came off while the other one was also broken in between but was intact.

                            I know I didn’t move it the opposite direction nor did I used extreme pressure.

                            Can’t take the bike anywhere cause the cap won’t stay on.

                            There wasn’t any resistance either when I turned it anti clockwise

                            When buying new bolts should I buy these cheap quality ones from KTM or more durable ones outside?


                            Any suggestions to how to remove it without damaging or whom to contact for it?

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                            • Re: KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                              Originally posted by QuadrupleagentZ View Post
                              Thanks both of you for your info

                              But this just happened

                              I bought the new O ring and when I went to remove the Bolts of the oil filter cap their head came out

                              I didn’t even apply force
                              One of the heads came off while the other one was also broken in between but was intact.

                              I know I didn’t move it the opposite direction nor did I used extreme pressure.

                              Can’t take the bike anywhere cause the cap won’t stay on.

                              There wasn’t any resistance either when I turned it anti clockwise

                              When buying new bolts should I buy these cheap quality ones from KTM or more durable ones outside?

                              Any suggestions to how to remove it without damaging or whom to contact for it?

                              I had a bad feeling about this, since the oil leak was too much for a failed O ring to cause. Now that you've successfully broken the head of the bolt. And yes, the crappy KTM bolts are nothing but made of cheese. You can get good quality steel bolts of the same size in your nearest spare part shop. You can take it to a lathe, where they will remove the entire clutch side casing and remove the stuck bolt and if need be rethread/bolt resized depending on the damage it cause to take the broken thread out. Basically, the SVC will do the same thing by giving it to a lathe or in worse case, ask you to replace the entire clutch casing.

                              Take it to a lathe yourself by removing the clutch cover, you can do it at a fraction of the cost of what a SVC might charge.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • KTM RC 390 Ownership Experience

                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                I had a bad feeling about this, since the oil leak was too much for a failed O ring to cause. Now that you've successfully broken the head of the bolt. And yes, the crappy KTM bolts are nothing but made of cheese. You can get good quality steel bolts of the same size in your nearest spare part shop. You can take it to a lathe, where they will remove the entire clutch side casing and remove the stuck bolt and if need be rethread/bolt resized depending on the damage it cause to take the broken thread out. Basically, the SVC will do the same thing by giving it to a lathe or in worse case, ask you to replace the entire clutch casing.

                                Take it to a lathe yourself by removing the clutch cover, you can do it at a fraction of the cost of what a SVC might charge.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ [emoji41]
                                Thanks for the quick response,

                                But isn’t the clutch cover separate from the filter cap holding screws?

                                Can I use a left drill bit and an extractor to remove the bolt?


                                Yes ktm bolts sure a weak as a clay
                                Just saw a lot of complains about the same bolt being broken on various 390 forums
                                Last edited by QuadrupleagentZ; 08-08-2019, 03:08 AM.

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