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    Anyone bought a Paddock Stand for your bike? Ajay has mentioned in the OP that Paddock Stand costs 7000/- from KTM, but when I inquired they said it's 2800/- for the standard one and 3600/- for the adjustable one.

    The funny part is I asked the store manager whether is it possible to use the paddock stand by myself without the help of others. He thought I going to make a purchase right away and said "YES" (very confidently). But I had my doubtful stare at him, then he asked one of his guys to bring a Paddock. There were a couple of 200 Dukes lined up, so he started a demo. The fellow who brought the paddock tried to hold the duke, but the manager asked him to step aside to show me how to do it without anyone's help.

    First Attempt: Placed the Paddock on the right swing arm, but he failed to notice the placement of left side. He started to put pressure on the paddock to lift the bike, eventually it slipped and the bike was about the fall. Luckily side stand was open, so it somehow managed without a fall. Everyone was shocked including me, because that is a brand new bike and it was about to fall on the other bikes lined up next to it. Then he said, it's his mistake that he didn't notice the placement properly and strongly advised me to keep the bike on side stand before placing the bike on Paddock as it will save from fall if something like this happens.

    Second Attempt: He carefully noticed both the placement and tried, again it slipped . I already said myself a big NO for Paddock and one man show. Then he inspected the paddock and said this model is for 390 series and not for 200. WTF!!. I asked him doesn't the width same for both 200 and 390? He said, no since 390 comes with Metzelers, they are 3-5 mm wider than 200. I made a doubtful nod. He took that paddock inside and checked, all of them were in similar size.

    Third Attempt: He brought back the same paddock and said this is a single piece frame without any welds or joints, so you can expand or compress the tube/frame with just a press. He place the paddock sideways and pressured over it to compress a little. Now that's a perfect fit on both left and right side of the swing arm. However, he and his assistants were not ready to take chances so they hold the bike while he put it in paddock. Finally it gets locked! Now, he said that it's simple isn't it? Yeah!! . I told him I will come back when I take the delivery of bike and left the place, came out and laughed like hell, we have been controlling our laugh all this time.

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    • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

      Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post
      Last time I checked, they do not charge for labour for a free service. Only the chain lube cost should be charged. However, they charge the tax that comes up on the labour charge(which i think is rediculous!). Maybe thats where the 100 bucks came from. Check the bill.


      They charge for labour indirectly. What do you think those consumables were that you're charged for? You pay for the oil and fuel filters separately and oil is extra so what other consumables? And chain adjustment and oiling is supposed to be complementary and as such can't be classified as "CONSUMABLES". Also, what tax buddy? You can't tax what you don't charge for. That's like paying taxes for breathing air.

      Svc's are crooks and so they don't like guys who ask questions and that's why I got cold looks from them when I asked about it.
      Last edited by Balgi; 01-07-2015, 03:38 PM.

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        Originally posted by joe_marvy View Post
        Anyone bought a Paddock Stand for your bike? Ajay has mentioned in the OP that Paddock Stand costs 7000/- from KTM, but when I inquired they said it's 2800/- for the standard one and 3600/- for the adjustable one.

        First Attempt: Placed the Paddock on the right swing arm, but he failed to notice the placement of left side. He started to put pressure on the paddock to lift the bike, eventually it slipped and the bike was about the fall. Luckily side stand was open, so it somehow managed without a fall. Everyone was shocked including me, because that is a brand new bike and it was about to fall on the other bikes lined up next to it. Then he said, it's his mistake that he didn't notice the placement properly and strongly advised me to keep the bike on side stand before placing the bike on Paddock as it will save from fall if something like this happens.

        Second Attempt: He carefully noticed both the placement and tried, again it slipped . I already said myself a big NO for Paddock and one man show. Then he inspected the paddock and said this model is for 390 series and not for 200. WTF!!. I asked him doesn't the width same for both 200 and 390? He said, no since 390 comes with Metzelers, they are 3-5 mm wider than 200. I made a doubtful nod. He took that paddock inside and checked, all of them were in similar size.

        Third Attempt: He brought back the same paddock and said this is a single piece frame without any welds or joints, so you can expand or compress the tube/frame with just a press. He place the paddock sideways and pressured over it to compress a little. Now that's a perfect fit on both left and right side of the swing arm. However, he and his assistants were not ready to take chances so they hold the bike while he put it in paddock. Finally it gets locked! Now, he said that it's simple isn't it? Yeah!! . I told him I will come back when I take the delivery of bike and left the place, came out and laughed like hell, we have been controlling our laugh all this time.

        The paddock stand does cost 7000/- but the showroom guys are trying to provide cheaper ones, hence the fitting issue. And I thought the swingarm fits over the wheel and therefore is wider than the wheel. And since the swing arm is same for both 200 & 390 any paddock used for one should fit the other.
        Rofling after reading your experience BTW. LOL

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        • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

          Originally posted by Balgi View Post
          ..Also, what tax buddy? You can't tax what you don't charge for. That's like paying taxes for breathing air.
          Exactly my point! they are giving free service but charging the tax applicable for a paid service. It's written in the policy they say
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            Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post
            Exactly my point! they are giving free service but charging the tax applicable for a paid service. It\\\'s written in the policy they say
            Yeah, Its because most owners are afraid to ask questions fearing bad service from the svc (the process for making a complaint doesn\'t provide instant gratification you see)especially since most guys going for bikes like these have very little know how of motorbikes (more like circus bears riding tricycles all they know is to ride........ barely) but guys like us who know stuff tend to ask questions which scare these svc crooks. Ask what they are charging next time and cite the law to them, if possible ask them to print you a copy of this so called \"POLICY\" and post it online (they have no reason to refuse you if you ask for it because 1) its against the law for them to refuse as its supposed to be a public document, and 2) they should have nothing to hide if they are on the right side of the law)

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            • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

              Originally posted by Deathmate.Zed View Post
              Exactly my point! they are giving free service but charging the tax applicable for a paid service. It\\\'s written in the policy they say
              I don\'t think tax can be charged for labor. tax (vat) is usually on spares.(like engine oil, oil filter etc..)
              And labor is free during free service.. they only charge some random 50~100rs as \'consumables\'

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              • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                Originally posted by joe_marvy View Post
                Hi Ajay, thank you for creating this wonderful thread and your experiences with the bike and SVC glued me to this thread. I am going to take delivery of my RC 200 this weekend and I have downloaded your PDI Check List. Owners of KTM RC 200, do have any thing else to look out on the day of doing PDI apart from the things listed on the check list?
                You're welcome Joe and congrats.. no there's nothing much but Pease feel free to add if you like..

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                • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                  Guys,

                  Any update on power parts ?? Not available in pune yet... I am pretty much interested in the bubble wind shield and stickers, the shield looks awseome see below
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                  • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                    getting one soon
                    i was wondering about piggy back ecu unit ... does mounting one only up my top speed or....(details) .

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                    • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                      Hello Everyone,

                      I have been going through thread regularly .
                      I got my RC 200 delivered yesterday. Amazing first experience on the bike.
                      But i have few queries

                      The bike heats up constantly in bumper to bumper traffic (radiator fan kicks in) i feel heat onto my legs easily. is this normal ?
                      How many days would it take on average for the wrist (pain) to get adjusted while riding this bike?
                      Is it good idea to add some soft padding on the rider\\\\\\\'s Seat ?, cause it very stiff and taking a toll on my back.
                      Bike vibration is more on lower RPM and i hope it will reduce gradually!!

                      Above points are just with initial impression !! i welcome all the advice to get use to this bike.

                      Never driven sporty position bike before. this being the first.

                      But happy with the purchase. its a show stopper at the moment in every road i traveled!!!!!

                      Driven 100 km as of now.. fuel bar from full has come down only one box !!! not sure what it means

                      Pics i shall post later

                      ==
                      MKR

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                      • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                        Originally posted by BiKeLovER View Post
                        Guys,

                        Any update on power parts ?? Not available in pune yet... I am pretty much interested in the bubble wind shield and stickers, the shield looks awseome see below
                        Power parts not available anywhere AFAIK and is procured on the basis of order only.. funny thing is that the regular bike parts are a shortage, powerparts are a distant dream

                        Originally posted by rcboy View Post
                        getting one soon
                        i was wondering about piggy back ecu unit ... does mounting one only up my top speed or....(details) .
                        Don\'t add anything if you don\'t want the warranty go voiding..

                        Answers in BOLD:
                        Originally posted by Muthukumar.Rathnam View Post
                        Hello Everyone,

                        I have been going through thread regularly .
                        I got my RC 200 delivered yesterday. Amazing first experience on the bike.
                        But i have few queries

                        The bike heats up constantly in bumper to bumper traffic (radiator fan kicks in) i feel heat onto my legs easily. is this normal ?

                        It\'s normal

                        How many days would it take on average for the wrist (pain) to get adjusted while riding this bike?

                        Depends on your body.

                        Is it good idea to add some soft padding on the rider\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s Seat ?, cause it very stiff and taking a toll on my back.

                        It again depends on you. Give it some time, if you are able to get used to it, it\'s a great news. If not, go ahead and you can add a softer padding. No problem there. AFAIK the warranty will not be voided. I used to feel it\'s hard but over use of about 2800+ kms, I\'m happy about it, took me some time to get adjusted.. but yes, takes time to get adjusted to the new bike & it\'s seating position..

                        Bike vibration is more on lower RPM and i hope it will reduce gradually!!

                        Even I got vibrations at lower RPM after 2800+ KMs.. it will reduce, but it\'s not gone yet.. some reasons for vibes:
                        - Number Plate
                        - Battery cover
                        - Fairing


                        Above points are just with initial impression !! i welcome all the advice to get use to this bike.

                        Never driven sporty position bike before. this being the first.

                        But happy with the purchase. its a show stopper at the moment in every road i traveled!!!!!

                        Driven 100 km as of now.. fuel bar from full has come down only one box !!! not sure what it means

                        The fuel meter is kinda nuts for me too.. so is the mileage indicator which is a big joke.. you gotta get used to it over time I guess here.. I\'m trying to get those two resolved.. at the local SVC..

                        Pics i shall post later

                        Please.. and thanks for the initial impressions..

                        ==
                        MKR

                        live long.. live happy.. that's the best revenge that can be served to the people who hate you..

                        PDI Checklist here - Emergency Contacts

                        Gear:
                        MT Revenge [Arrowtip] | SMK Twister [Blade]
                        Spartan Helios | Spartan Icarus
                        BB Gears Racer Gloves | Aspida Phaeton
                        BB Gears Tourer| Allen Cooper 1157
                        Spartan Odysseus
                        2007 - 2010 Kinetic Nova
                        2010 - 2015 Honda Unicorn
                        2014 - 2019 KTM RC 200
                        2017 - Today KTM Duke 390

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                        • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                          yeah but you can buy a piggy back ecu unit and install at home and remove when you are sending it for servicing..wondering if that would still be caught..??
                          furthermore dukes powerpart should be essentially same so dont see why you cant buy them as powerparts.


                          say what ?..

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                          • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                            Originally posted by rcboy View Post
                            yeah but you can buy a piggy back ecu unit and install at home and remove when you are sending it for servicing..wondering if that would still be caught..??
                            furthermore dukes powerpart should be essentially same so dont see why you cant buy them as powerparts.


                            say what ?..

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                            I know powertronics.. I guess they are the same company that manufactures ECUs for MOTO GP bikes & KTM powerparts.. many people also do and say the same thing.. remove it when giving for service.. agreed.. but I\'m not sure of it.. try and let us know..

                            live long.. live happy.. that's the best revenge that can be served to the people who hate you..

                            PDI Checklist here - Emergency Contacts

                            Gear:
                            MT Revenge [Arrowtip] | SMK Twister [Blade]
                            Spartan Helios | Spartan Icarus
                            BB Gears Racer Gloves | Aspida Phaeton
                            BB Gears Tourer| Allen Cooper 1157
                            Spartan Odysseus
                            2007 - 2010 Kinetic Nova
                            2010 - 2015 Honda Unicorn
                            2014 - 2019 KTM RC 200
                            2017 - Today KTM Duke 390

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                            • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                              what about kirrus ?.... allows a more comprhensive delivery pattern...i have heard

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                              • re: KTM RC 200 Owners Experience Thread

                                Originally posted by Ajay Vishwanath View Post
                                I know powertronics.. I guess they are the same company that manufactures ECUs for MOTO GP bikes & KTM powerparts.. many people also do and say the same thing.. remove it when giving for service.. agreed.. but I\\\\\\\'m not sure of it.. try and let us know..
                                i don\'t think they do anything for moto gp or ktm.
                                you can check out their website racedynamics.in and they are more known for their car related ecu mods.
                                for a few bikes, they have a piggyback.. which plugs in to the ecu and a few other places and the piggyback works by intercepting the signals and making necessary adjustments.

                                Originally posted by rcboy View Post
                                what about kirrus ?.... allows a more comprhensive delivery pattern...i have heard
                                kiirus directly remaps the ecu, you need to remove the ecu and send it to them. they supposedly keep a back up of the existing stock map and will re-flash it if necessary.
                                the piggyback on the other hand can simply be unplugged in 10 minutes to revert to stock.

                                I had emailed kiirus a month ago with a long list of questions, but they simply said \'too long email, call back\' -- i dint want to pursue it further.
                                Yesterday i emailed racedynamics and still waiting for their response.

                                Of the two methods.. a remap is supposed to be \'better\' compared to using a piggyback.. but I can\'t say much about the differences/advantages without riding such a modded bike.
                                Does anyone in hyderabad have either a kiirus remap or powertronics piggyback on their duke 200s ? I\'d love to have a test ride.

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