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  • I_Ride
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by koushik_vaskar View Post
    Thanks a lot for the response.

    1) well i usually don't do that. Max offroading for me would be the roads to spiti/ ladakh which my NS tackled fairly well or some village roads . So i assume i am somewhat safe from the chasis crack

    2) Is there any solution to the battery drainage ?

    3) I usually take proper care of my two wheels so hoping that they won't let me down in the middle of some deserted road.
    Just go for it, it has very comfortable suspensions for our indian roads.
    Chassis breaking was problem with BS3, i have not heard BS4 anytime, they have made the welding/joints heavier in BS4, FYI BS4 weighs around 9 kgs more than BS3.

    For battery drainage i have not faced any issues like this, riding a BS4 since more than 5000 kms. People have added a headlight switch but it might affect the warranty for sure.

    You may have to change the seat cushioning for more comfort, it was hitting my tail bone directly, after mod it is very comfortable for long distances.

    My perspective buying BMW is no value for money at all, even if its a good motorbike.

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  • koushik_vaskar
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    1. Yes, and the sad part is, the chassis can crack, but there's a reason to it why it happens in the first place. Extreme offroading and frequent jumps lands and what not can in fact weaken the headstock. It's a design flaw or a weld flaw. But, yes it can happen, if you're "extremely" unlucky.

    2. This happens with the newer BS4 bikes, since the headlamp turns on with the ignition and there's no separate switch to turn it off. Keep the bulbs too long with the engine off, the battery will die. It's the case with all bikes with AHO.

    3. Breakdowns, they are part and parcel of motorcycle ownership, but take proper care, and it won't let you down. Trust me on that.

    4. This is a no-brainer, if punctures happen, then bad luck. Let's get them patched.

    The comfort, the riding position, and the mileage are the best parts of this motorcycle, and that lovely 32 nm of torque is just fun.

    You keep the bike spic and span, the bike will last really long. The moment you start thrasing it, it'll show its ill quality prowess. I just couldn't find a better word to phrase it though.

    Cheers!
    VJ

    Thanks a lot for the response.

    1) well i usually don't do that. Max offroading for me would be the roads to spiti/ ladakh which my NS tackled fairly well or some village roads . So i assume i am somewhat safe from the chasis crack

    2) Is there any solution to the battery drainage ?

    3) I usually take proper care of my two wheels so hoping that they won't let me down in the middle of some deserted road.

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  • #bpk
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by nieljason01 View Post
    This bike is simply awesome . A true Himalayan bike. I own a Royal Enfield classic. I have customized it to my liking. I bought the customized parts from a website called bull-leds.
    You've filled whole xbhp by posting about your modifications.

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  • nieljason01
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    This bike is simply awesome . A true Himalayan bike. I own a Royal Enfield classic. I have customized it to my liking. I bought the customized parts from a website called bull-leds.

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by koushik_vaskar View Post

    My two choices are 1 ) BMW G310 GS ( Which is very very costly ) and 2) Himalayan

    But lately i have read quite a lot of negative feedback about the Himalayan. Let me try to jot them down in points for your ease.

    1) The chasis - Heard the Chasis can break any point of time.( Do i have to worry that in middle of some roadtrip the chasis crack open. Any precaution against it/ the frequency of such problem )

    2) Battery drainage - Heard the Battery drains quite frequently. and it might leave me stranded in middle of some deserted road with the bike. It happen right after few days from the purchase.

    3) Breakdown - Heard the bike breaks down and refuse to start anywhere at any point of time. Lots of issues ( like coil burnout etc ) is it true? what is the probability of such cases. (Agree this can happen with any machine, but With REH its quite frequent and can even happen to a well maintained new Bike )

    4) Spoke wheel puncture - though for this i have decided to try slime

    Any other problems which i might have missed which i need to be well aware off.

    Honestly, i would not want to be stranded in some no mans land when the only companion i have refuse to take me to the destination.

    P.s - I intend to ride in the city and some long distance road trips across India. No specific Off roading though


    You guys being the owner of the REH and riding it for long, no one can give me the correct picture other than you all. so i thought to come to you rather than believing all the reviews on the internet. Kindly help me with my queries and any other thing i have to consider before making the purchase.
    1. Yes, and the sad part is, the chassis can crack, but there's a reason to it why it happens in the first place. Extreme offroading and frequent jumps lands and what not can in fact weaken the headstock. It's a design flaw or a weld flaw. But, yes it can happen, if you're "extremely" unlucky.

    2. This happens with the newer BS4 bikes, since the headlamp turns on with the ignition and there's no separate switch to turn it off. Keep the bulbs too long with the engine off, the battery will die. It's the case with all bikes with AHO.

    3. Breakdowns, they are part and parcel of motorcycle ownership, but take proper care, and it won't let you down. Trust me on that.

    4. This is a no-brainer, if punctures happen, then bad luck. Let's get them patched.

    The comfort, the riding position, and the mileage are the best parts of this motorcycle, and that lovely 32 nm of torque is just fun.

    You keep the bike spic and span, the bike will last really long. The moment you start thrasing it, it'll show its ill quality prowess. I just couldn't find a better word to phrase it though.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • koushik_vaskar
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Hi All,
    It will seem as my first post in Xbhp, But i was a member since 2010 and used to be regular with all G2G in delhi. Somehow i lost credentials and came up with a new ID.

    Main reason behind posting here is, recently i came too know that i have slight congestion on my Disc and they are hitting my spine. which results in continuous pain. after some regular physio the pain gone and i am back to riding. Currently i own a P200NS, but due to the riding position and the suspension, planning to give up and switch to a comfortable one.

    My two choices are 1 ) BMW G310 GS ( Which is very very costly ) and 2) Himalayan

    But lately i have read quite a lot of negative feedback about the Himalayan. Let me try to jot them down in points for your ease.

    1) The chasis - Heard the Chasis can break any point of time.( Do i have to worry that in middle of some roadtrip the chasis crack open. Any precaution against it/ the frequency of such problem )

    2) Battery drainage - Heard the Battery drains quite frequently. and it might leave me stranded in middle of some deserted road with the bike. It happen right after few days from the purchase.

    3) Breakdown - Heard the bike breaks down and refuse to start anywhere at any point of time. Lots of issues ( like coil burnout etc ) is it true? what is the probability of such cases. (Agree this can happen with any machine, but With REH its quite frequent and can even happen to a well maintained new Bike )

    4) Spoke wheel puncture - though for this i have decided to try slime

    Any other problems which i might have missed which i need to be well aware off.

    Honestly, i would not want to be stranded in some no mans land when the only companion i have refuse to take me to the destination.

    P.s - I intend to ride in the city and some long distance road trips across India. No specific Off roading though


    You guys being the owner of the REH and riding it for long, no one can give me the correct picture other than you all. so i thought to come to you rather than believing all the reviews on the internet. Kindly help me with my queries and any other thing i have to consider before making the purchase.

    Leave a comment:


  • sheshank
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    You made a good decision, for our roads the Himalayan is the best. Do post some pics and your first ride impressions. Welcome to the REH Club.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Thanks VJ. After reading all the posts. I have to tell you this, you have been a inspiration. Keep going.

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by sheshank View Post
    Hi all. I had a confusion earlier between Avenger 220 and Himalayan. I had went through all the post here and decided. I have booked Himalayan Sleet yesterday. Now i am very excited. Hope my decision is right.
    You made a good decision, for our roads the Himalayan is the best. Do post some pics and your first ride impressions. Welcome to the REH Club.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • sheshank
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Hi all. I had a confusion earlier between Avenger 220 and Himalayan. I had went through all the post here and decided. I have booked Himalayan Sleet yesterday. Now i am very excited. Hope my decision is right.

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by Kunwar.g View Post
    The cost came up to just Rs 1350 and it includes rear brake pad change at 8500 km. Advisor only included Oil change, oil filter and air filter in this. During inspection brake pads were found to have only about 15% life left.

    However, the big issue comes later. I showed them how the high beam signal on speedometer console would lightly shows up even when on low beam, but glows 100% only when high beam is activaated . The mechanic called someone . Meanwhile the mechanic had tried to remove the 2 relay to see if it fixes, but it didnt, so put it back again. Then he started opening the battery compartment when the expert came in and then shared that this is cause I had changed the BS4 switch to BS3. They had done same on 2 BS4 REH and they both had the same issue. So, without removing the battery compartment cover he put the screws back in.

    Checked tyre pressure and also reported stiff suspension, so if there was a way to reduce the stiffness. The expert again just saw the setting and it was at 3, which is company setting and suggested not to change it. After the bike was brought down from the ramp the expert put the bike on center stand and tested the suspension by pushing bike downwards. He agreed it was stiff, took a short TD and still the same. Part was not in stock, he suggested to come after few days for part replacement under warranty if it makes suspension softer.

    Now after paying up and leaving from there, rode for about 7km and bike suddenly stopped. And then it wouldnt start. The display console would light up, but as soon as I press any switch ( light / horn / kill switch ) the console would die and then restart. All readings remain same, only time gets reset to 12:00. Multiple attempts , but no luck. There are no external accessories fitted in bike as of now.

    Had to reach office so left bike in a nearby office building parking and took cab. Later came back and just fiddled with the round ( think its the solenoid ) part that is right in front of the battery after the side cover is removed. Bike started, I tried few attempts and all was fine, HL and horn also working. Happy i returned in my car, went home, took Auto and came back. This time bike again refused to start. I was carrying my toolkit but nothing helped. On phone call the mechanic heard the symptoms and said its probably the battery.

    This is getting long, so will just say that I had to push start the bike and brought it home, will have to take out time to again push start the bike.

    Hope battery is also covered in the 2 years warranty :-). New one will cost 1800 after exchange ( Amaron

    I might have used the incorrect term. Not removed, just disconnected. Under the fuel tank, there are 2 rubber hoses plugged to the fuel tank. One of them has a locking clamp, thats the one feeding to the EVAP. Remove that and then plug the other hose into this one, it isnt a tight fit, but it will hold.

    The other hose is water/excess fuel drainage. If you dont cover the EVAP feeder nozzle with this hose then at bike stop and start you will get fuel smell, thats all.

    You just need to lift the tank partially to do this. Better to have a friend who can hold the tank at that position for you. 2 bolts under the front seat have to be removed to do this. Hardly a 10 mins job, so if you want to revert, you can do that in just 10 mins.

    Kunwar thank you for the update. Did you replace your right hand switch to the BS3 ones? Were they a direct fit? How long after, did you observe this mild HB glowing on your console? It seems you got this switch replaced a long while back and now you see this lighting coming up, which wasn't there earlier even though you changed the switch, hope I am getting it right. Regarding the stiff suspension, the Himalayan has extremely soft sprung rear, and yes it's set at 3 turns. If you have a thud sound going over a pothole and the suspension becomes hard when going over a pothole, it's time to replace your rear shocker. Regarding the battery, yes they have a warranty period too, and it will be replaced if it's found faulty.

    Too low battery would mean, you'll have all the lights working fine, but when you press the starter button, noting will work, it will make a "krrr" sound and the console will just turn off and tun on again. If your battery is charged enough and still you have trouble starting, i.e. check your starter relay and fuse. A fully charged up battery will start the bike in less than two cranks.

    I'd like to know more about the BS3 switch mod, the cost involved and the finer aspects of it. Do keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • Kunwar.g
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    The third service shouldn't cost more than 1900 approximately including oil, lubing, washing et cetera. Don't bother about the replacement chart, stick to the basics. The quote "Why Fix Unless Broken" goes hand in hand for this motorcycle.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    The cost came up to just Rs 1350 and it includes rear brake pad change at 8500 km. Advisor only included Oil change, oil filter and air filter in this. During inspection brake pads were found to have only about 15% life left.

    However, the big issue comes later. I showed them how the high beam signal on speedometer console would lightly shows up even when on low beam, but glows 100% only when high beam is activaated . The mechanic called someone . Meanwhile the mechanic had tried to remove the 2 relay to see if it fixes, but it didnt, so put it back again. Then he started opening the battery compartment when the expert came in and then shared that this is cause I had changed the BS4 switch to BS3. They had done same on 2 BS4 REH and they both had the same issue. So, without removing the battery compartment cover he put the screws back in.

    Checked tyre pressure and also reported stiff suspension, so if there was a way to reduce the stiffness. The expert again just saw the setting and it was at 3, which is company setting and suggested not to change it. After the bike was brought down from the ramp the expert put the bike on center stand and tested the suspension by pushing bike downwards. He agreed it was stiff, took a short TD and still the same. Part was not in stock, he suggested to come after few days for part replacement under warranty if it makes suspension softer.

    Now after paying up and leaving from there, rode for about 7km and bike suddenly stopped. And then it wouldnt start. The display console would light up, but as soon as I press any switch ( light / horn / kill switch ) the console would die and then restart. All readings remain same, only time gets reset to 12:00. Multiple attempts , but no luck. There are no external accessories fitted in bike as of now.

    Had to reach office so left bike in a nearby office building parking and took cab. Later came back and just fiddled with the round ( think its the solenoid ) part that is right in front of the battery after the side cover is removed. Bike started, I tried few attempts and all was fine, HL and horn also working. Happy i returned in my car, went home, took Auto and came back. This time bike again refused to start. I was carrying my toolkit but nothing helped. On phone call the mechanic heard the symptoms and said its probably the battery.

    This is getting long, so will just say that I had to push start the bike and brought it home, will have to take out time to again push start the bike.

    Hope battery is also covered in the 2 years warranty :-). New one will cost 1800 after exchange ( Amaron )

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    Originally posted by RJV View Post
    Can you elaborate on removing Evap..?
    I might have used the incorrect term. Not removed, just disconnected. Under the fuel tank, there are 2 rubber hoses plugged to the fuel tank. One of them has a locking clamp, thats the one feeding to the EVAP. Remove that and then plug the other hose into this one, it isnt a tight fit, but it will hold.

    The other hose is water/excess fuel drainage. If you dont cover the EVAP feeder nozzle with this hose then at bike stop and start you will get fuel smell, thats all.

    You just need to lift the tank partially to do this. Better to have a friend who can hold the tank at that position for you. 2 bolts under the front seat have to be removed to do this. Hardly a 10 mins job, so if you want to revert, you can do that in just 10 mins.

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  • RJV
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by Kunwar.g View Post
    I completely agree. But since it clearly mentions that it needs replacement in manual, these guys might just say it will impact warranty if not done as per manual. Let's see anyway will go for it this time as loosing 12 months warranty isn't a small thing. Else I wanted to quickly shift to Motul 5100. Removing Evap has anyway made the engine a tad smoother and responsive even after 100km/hr. But my sweet spot now is around 80-90
    Can you elaborate on removing Evap..?

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  • B7ACKTHORN
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by Downhilldude01 View Post
    Yes it is a brand new bike with no falls or accidents
    Yes it is brand new bike and no the has not had a fall
    in which case, your bike should have been damaged during transit or during PDI by the guys at the SVC. But, why didn't you thoroughly check the bike before signing the cheque. You are entitled to ride the bike, check if everything is fine, and then give the final OK for purchase, I am surprised how you missed it then, and now you're able to find it. Eitherways, you can try asking them to claim it under warranty, but I highly suspect they will consider it as a faulty part because you already rode the bike for such long without informing them in the first place. They'll recommend you to claim it under warranty.

    Nonetheless, keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ

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  • Downhilldude01
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Was the bend in a brand new bike or you did you happen to fall in your bike bending your handlebar and gear lever?

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Yes it is a brand new bike with no falls or accidents

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    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    Was the bend in a brand new bike or you did you happen to fall in your bike bending your handlebar and gear lever?

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Yes it is brand new bike and no the has not had a fall

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  • varunaFRANCE
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    Re: Royal Enfield Himalayan

    HI mates
    About the services .
    the chain is supposed to be removed at 10 kkm. Obviously it has to be done around this ( mine is washed up at 11) .
    The same for the air filter , not necessary is some cases
    BUT
    You can find a DID Xring chain with reinforced sprockets , not so expensive. Will last at least twice more if you do not grease it too much !!!
    and alose a Kand N washable air filter ,will last the life of the bike if you clean it carefully.
    will do it on mine

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