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  • #46
    Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

    Ownership thread starting with issues is not a good thing, I was expecting KTM would have done their homework pretty well. I hope KTM updates future batches and recalls older bikes ( which KTM don't do).

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    • #47
      Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

      Originally posted by hackergaurav View Post
      Hello Dr Ravinder Chopra, You are from Bahadurgarh ? as per your profile, So if you were present at the launch of new models of KTM bikes at bahadurgarh you must have seen me as I am the one who got the only Duke 390 available for Launch, And to clarify more the person who faced the problem with ECU is also me . Moreover the person who told about the part being imported from Canada in whatts app group is also me..

      So First let me update you all about the ECU error, That was day before yesterday when I faced this error for the first time, and thankfully the last time. Yesterday entire day I was not able to ride my bike due to some work. However today I did another 45 kms ride. Although as I am going far from town on a highway I was little worried that in case I get the ECU error again in the middle of nowhere, I might stuck. But all went well and no issue. Drove slow , drove Fast, Drove continuously for 20 - 25 minutes, but no issues, I hope it was a temporary issue. However will get it thoroughly checked within 2 or days at first service, Hopefully at Bahadurgarh itself or may be at Rohtak. I hope the issue triggered must have been saved in computer logs and show some valid reasons when connected with diagnostic tool. And moreover if you reset ECU by turning off the ignition key completely, It restarts normally, so as of now nothing serious which can make you think of cancelling the booking or even giving a second thought. Go for it, its pure fun and VFM at this price. I will update you with the outcome of diagnostics as they will see error codes and reset all alarms after the service.
      Thanks Gaurav for reply. Yes I am from bahadurgarh but I was not present at launch event. Actually I was first one to book duke 390 at bahadurgarh (on 10th Feb) but don't know they never told me about the bike arriving to their showroom. They told me that they received only one bike on launch event and that unit was having some issue with ignition system. Don't know why they told a lie to me. But lucky you who got the bike. The showroom manager is now telling to give me bike as soon as possible.

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      • #48
        Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by JN8304 View Post
        I echo Chiragsthakur's thoughts. I hear there are two throttle sensors, which is good - primary and backup.
        But what happens if both stop working? How would I know if either one is/isn't working?
        AFAIK, in other sport bikes where the Ride-by-wire throttle is used, in case of failure of the said system, the bike will run at a constant 6000RPM which should be able to go to speeds around 60kmph. That way you can reach the service center to get it fixed. I am not sure if that is the case with the new D390 since I was not able to find the user manual anywhere.

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        • #49
          Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

          Hello Duke 390 (2017) owners,

          Anybody here switched from karizma?

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          • #50
            Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

            Thanks Akshay! you are correct about the engine being in running condition although the ride by wire ceases to work.
            A BIG Thank you to s1d for sharing the link to the manual available online, it's my current read. Hope the below link helps you too[emoji4]

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            • #51
              Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

              Originally posted by akshayar640 View Post
              AFAIK, in other sport bikes where the Ride-by-wire throttle is used, in case of failure of the said system, the bike will run at a constant 6000RPM which should be able to go to speeds around 60kmph. That way you can reach the service center to get it fixed. I am not sure if that is the case with the new D390 since I was not able to find the user manual anywhere.
              1. The bike will not run at a 'constant' 6k rpm, you could say that it will not exceed a certain rpm/speed.
              2. In case of certain failures (sensors, low fuel pressure etc..) these bikes go in to a limp home mode (or whatever fancy name the manufacturer wants to call it). That doesn't mean it will happen for all failures, sometimes the bike might just refuse to start or be rideable (like for example if the side stand sensor fails)

              Unless one has the information on these items from the manufacturer and a diagnostic tool (which are very expensive, especially the oem ones) it will be difficult to point out the cause of failure. Ones best bet is to head to the svc immediately to get it checked, they have a pretty good diag tool (the bosch green colored one) and I hope it has been calibrated (or they get a new diag tool) for the new 390's considering it has a different electronics setup (CAN bus, RBW)

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              • #52
                Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by s1d View Post
                1. The bike will not run at a 'constant' 6k rpm, you could say that it will not exceed a certain rpm/speed.
                How does the RPM change if the throttle doesn't work?

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                • #53
                  Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                  Originally posted by akshayar640 View Post
                  How does the RPM change if the throttle doesn't work?
                  which is why i said 'certain failures'. if for some reason the throttle is totally unusable, the bike might not even start. That depends on how the manufacturer designs the system to operate. They might limit the rpm (i.e. not let the engine exceed a certain rpm), alter a/f ratio, change ignition timing etc.. in the limp mode (think of it like the safe mode in Windows on your computer)

                  Have you ever tried keep the bike at 6000 rpm (holding throttle open) and then letting go of the clutch ? Am sure it is going to be very dangerous even on a splendor!

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                  • #54
                    Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by akshayar640 View Post
                    AFAIK, in other sport bikes where the Ride-by-wire throttle is used, in case of failure of the said system, the bike will run at a constant 6000RPM which should be able to go to speeds around 60kmph. That way you can reach the service center to get it fixed. I am not sure if that is the case with the new D390 since I was not able to find the user manual anywhere.
                    The good thing about RBW as opposed to a throttle cable is, when a throttle cable is snap, the leverage to the throttle cable is disconnected, rendering it useless. On a RBW, system though the entire throttle body operation is carried over by a motor, which has it's nerves connected to the ECU. So, if the sensors at the handlebar level fail, the ECU detects this and as folks pointed out, the bike goes to limp mode, meaning say around the ECU locks the RPM to 3000 RPM, this way, the engine is running so you can shift gears without the risk of stalling the engine again.

                    Too high an RPM and you run the risk of stalling the engine when shifting gears. If my memory serves me correct most RBW bikes enter the 3 to 4k RPM range when they detect a system failure, which is a pretty clever idea, so you don't get stranded in the middle of nowhere.

                    P.S. Though this might not be applicable for all motorcycles out there. For the 2017 Duke 390, I guess, we'll have to wait how its system is calibrated.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 03-29-2017, 03:54 PM.
                    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                    The girl said, 'NO!'


                    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                    THE END

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                    • #55
                      Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                      [QUOTE=chiragsthakur;1284935]I have tweeted the ECU issue and gauravs YouTube video to KTM india. Let's see what they reply.


                      Thanks Chirag, Lets hope you get a positive reply soon. If you get anything, do let me know as well.

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                      • #56
                        Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                        Not yet. I don't have hope that they will reply. Bank loan got disbursed today. But delivery date not yet clear
                        Originally posted by hackergaurav View Post
                        Thanks Chirag, Lets hope you get a positive reply soon. If you get anything, do let me know as well.
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                        KTM Duke 390 2017

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                        • #57
                          Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                          Bad news. I did some inquiries and it looks like almost every new D390 owner has started facing this issue. I have booked my bike and it might arrive soon. I'm really confused what to do.. moreover, my loan will also be dispersed in a few days. How can KTM screw up this bad? Didn't anyone in their testing team face this issue during their runs? It's ridiculous that such a show stopper bug can slip through. Unbelievable.

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                          • #58
                            Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                            How many of them? I am quiet sure not many have got deliveries yet. But plz provide source if you can. And don't worry, if you are skeptical just hold on to your horses, ask the dealer to allot you a bike next month. Emi will start but anyways its gonna start on one day or the other.
                            Originally posted by akshayar640 View Post
                            it looks like almost every new D390 owner has started facing this issue.
                            Yamaha RX135 (1998) - Stolen

                            Yamaha R15 V2 - Composure redefined

                            KTM Duke 390 2017

                            Youtube: CT39T

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                            • #59
                              Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                              Originally posted by chiragsthakur View Post
                              How many of them? I am quiet sure not many have got deliveries yet. But plz provide source if you can. And don't worry, if you are skeptical just hold on to your horses, ask the dealer to allot you a bike next month. Emi will start but anyways its gonna start on one day or the other.
                              I tried to get in touch with the few people who did get their bike delivered. You can find them posting these issues on social media (I found a few through insta). And yes, I can wait for the dealer to allot a bike next month, but from April 1st I will have to pay 15k more due to raise in tax in my state. I expected a few issues with the bike being newly released and all that, tbh. But not blocker issues.

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                              • #60
                                Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                                Originally posted by akshayar640 View Post
                                Bad news. I did some inquiries and it looks like almost every new D390 owner has started facing this issue. I have booked my bike and it might arrive soon. I'm really confused what to do.. moreover, my loan will also be dispersed in a few days. How can KTM screw up this bad? Didn't anyone in their testing team face this issue during their runs? It's ridiculous that such a show stopper bug can slip through. Unbelievable.
                                Poor homework by KTM boffins!

                                Suddenly, one might feel the old one fared much better. Akshay, I'd be curious to know if any proactive steps, solutions were provided by the service center side regarding this issue. Since you've mentioned "almost every new" I am wondering, the circle you've contacted, have anyone sorted this issue or have found at least what can be the culprit for the dreaded "ECU ERROR". Keep us posted on the catch ups, social media queries and responses, from your side as well as your friends' so that we all can all have a glimpse of this elusive bug(ger)

                                Cheers!
                                VJ
                                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                                The girl said, 'NO!'


                                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                                THE END

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