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  • Saksham Verenkar
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    The premature timing chain noise is due to a major design flaw in the engine. Yours is not the only bike affected. Almost all Ismart 110 from first production year has this issue. It's truly unfortunate and frustrating for it's customers. Hence I cannot guarantee you that replacing the timing chain will solve the issue. Hero had added an external timing chain tensioner in the later models like Ismart 110 plus & Passion Pro 110. But now Hero has stopped producing that 110cc engine altogether. The BS6 Ismart has an all new 113 cc engine and the chassis is also new.

    The best thing to do is to get rid of that bike as soon as possible. The longer you keep it, the faster its value will depreciate and the more headache it would give. And for your next purchase its better to avoid any new product from Hero as they are yet to prove themselves. At the moment only their 100cc bikes are trust worthy. In the 200cc segment, go for the time tested and proven products.
    The thing is am not in a position to buy a new bike financially so have to continue with this one till the time i can buy new one. Also i wont want to sell it to any person , I would most probably exchange it.

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  • MotoMan
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Saksham Verenkar View Post
    I was thinking of getting timing chain replaced and continue using the bike for another 6 months or so and then upgrade to 200cc segment. Do you think it would be a good idea to get timing chain replaced and continue using the bike for another 6months or so .
    The premature timing chain noise is due to a major design flaw in the engine. Yours is not the only bike affected. Almost all Ismart 110 from first production year has this issue. It's truly unfortunate and frustrating for it's customers. Hence I cannot guarantee you that replacing the timing chain will solve the issue. Hero had added an external timing chain tensioner in the later models like Ismart 110 plus & Passion Pro 110. But now Hero has stopped producing that 110cc engine altogether. The BS6 Ismart has an all new 113 cc engine and the chassis is also new.

    The best thing to do is to get rid of that bike as soon as possible. The longer you keep it, the faster its value will depreciate and the more headache it would give. And for your next purchase its better to avoid any new product from Hero as they are yet to prove themselves. At the moment only their 100cc bikes are trust worthy. In the 200cc segment, go for the time tested and proven products.

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  • Saksham Verenkar
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Saksham Verenkar View Post


    My bike is failing puc too , so i told the mechanic to get that thing sorted i service .
    His reply was same sir your engine needs work of 8-8.5k , unless you do that it will keep failing .
    Am thinking of changing my mechanic and try a different one.
    I feel this one is trying to rip me off.
    Also if i get timing changed will this noise go away, its making a lot of noise now the timing chain.
    Can anyone help me out with the puc thing

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  • Saksham Verenkar
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    It seems that your ismart 110 is from the first production year and yes its an inherent problem of the engine. Hero had noted this timing chain problem and updated the engine on the ismart+, passion pro 110 & passion X pro. On the newer bikes, if you look closely you can find an external timing chain tensioner on the cylinder block which is absent on your bike. You can consult Hero ASC and inquire whether its possible to fit the new updated cylinder block. But it may cost a lot. The best idea would be to exchange it at the same dealer and buy a new BS6 bike.

    I was thinking of getting timing chain replaced and continue using the bike for another 6 months or so and then upgrade to 200cc segment. Do you think it would be a good idea to get timing chain replaced and continue using the bike for another 6months or so .

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  • djcena
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Thanks to both of you , so I am going to order a CR6H-GP plug from amazon .

    The problem may be that you have fitted a larger capacity battery so it's not charging up enough within your riding time . See , a battery is like a water-tank . As it is Splendor/Passion charging system is marginal . With a larger water tank you need more water ( charging ) to fill it up fully . A always partially charged battery will not last . For optimal battery life it must be kept near full charge all the time . With a 4-5AH battery you'll need to ride your bike about twice the time to fully charge it , compared to a 2.5AH one . My advise is to revert to stock 2.5AH battery . When you're fitting new battery you can ask battery-shop to check your charging voltage , they'll do it for free .
    since removal of LED bulb i have not faced any problem but i am now using 3ah battery. its working well till now

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  • Pinaki
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by dumb0 View Post
    CR6HGP is do ing the work like a charm .. Leaves no deposits on the tip, stays clean without any periodic requirement for removal of red/ white substance and does not foul, at all.
    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    .. Same plug is recommended in the manual of my 2010 Passion Pro but CR7HSA and CR7HGP are not available anymore sir. I have been using CR6HSA in my Passion Pro for the last 50K km. It feels the best for Passion Pro.
    Thanks to both of you , so I am going to order a CR6H-GP plug from amazon .

    Originally posted by djcena View Post
    ok sir, i will check with new battery.
    in the meanwhile i have removed LED headlights. switched to normal light and have added small LED lights on guard. its working fine
    is bl5c (5 am) battery supportive in older gen passion plus model
    earlier i had 2.5 am battery then switched to 4am.
    The problem may be that you have fitted a larger capacity battery so it's not charging up enough within your riding time . See , a battery is like a water-tank . As it is Splendor/Passion charging system is marginal . With a larger water tank you need more water ( charging ) to fill it up fully . A always partially charged battery will not last . For optimal battery life it must be kept near full charge all the time . With a 4-5AH battery you'll need to ride your bike about twice the time to fully charge it , compared to a 2.5AH one . My advise is to revert to stock 2.5AH battery . When you're fitting new battery you can ask battery-shop to check your charging voltage , they'll do it for free .

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  • MotoMan
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Saksham Verenkar View Post
    I have a splendor ismart 2017 model, the engine makes noise from starting only(timing chain). My local mechanic told me it's the inherent problem of the engine
    Now I plan to sell it so I asked the mechanic the price he says 15-16k . That's really low for 2.5 year old model. He says the engine makes too much noise and needs work, I asked him the cost he said 8-10k.
    Now I am in 2 minds what to do with the bike to sell it or keep for 3 more years and sell it as scrap.
    Or should I take a second opinion from different mechanic.
    I will try to upload the video of the engine noise by evening.
    It seems that your ismart 110 is from the first production year and yes its an inherent problem of the engine. Hero had noted this timing chain problem and updated the engine on the ismart+, passion pro 110 & passion X pro. On the newer bikes, if you look closely you can find an external timing chain tensioner on the cylinder block which is absent on your bike. You can consult Hero ASC and inquire whether its possible to fit the new updated cylinder block. But it may cost a lot. The best idea would be to exchange it at the same dealer and buy a new BS6 bike.

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    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Spark-plug recommended for my 2010 Splendor+ in the owner's manual is CR7HSA , I am running on CR7HGP presently but it's about 20k kms old now and due for change . But now I could not find either CR7HSA or it's g-power equivalent CR7HGP in market . Everyone ( including NGK's webpage ) says to use CR6HSA or CR6HGP instead . What is the experience using this one higher heat range plug in Splendor/+ ?
    Same plug is recommended in the manual of my 2010 Passion Pro but CR7HSA and CR7HGP are not available anymore sir. I have been using CR6HSA in my Passion Pro for the last 50K km. It feels the best for Passion Pro.
    Last edited by MotoMan; 02-27-2020, 07:51 PM.

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  • Saksham Verenkar
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
    Tell the mechanic to perform valve adjustment. It's not a big issue. Just make sure that the bike is cooled and don't ride the bike to the workshop , get it towed, in this way you'll be able to achieve perfect valve clearance . Take it to authorised service centre.

    So i dont need to get the work done of 8-8.5 k that the mechanic is saying about ?

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  • Saksham Verenkar
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
    Tell the mechanic to perform valve adjustment. It's not a big issue. Just make sure that the bike is cooled and don't ride the bike to the workshop , get it towed, in this way you'll be able to achieve perfect valve clearance . Take it to authorised service centre.
    Would a good road side mechanic be able to perform this.
    I dont have trust on the authorized service center

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    Originally posted by Saksham Verenkar View Post
    This is the link for YouTube video

    https://youtu.be/u4agfyafXNY
    My bike is failing puc too , so i told the mechanic to get that thing sorted i service .
    His reply was same sir your engine needs work of 8-8.5k , unless you do that it will keep failing .
    Am thinking of changing my mechanic and try a different one.
    I feel this one is trying to rip me off.
    Also if i get timing changed will this noise go away, its making a lot of noise now the timing chain.

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  • dumb0
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    CR6HGP is do ing the work like a charm.

    Leaves no deposits on the tip, stays clean without any periodic requirement for removal of red/ white substance and does not foul, at all.
    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Spark-plug recommended for my 2010 Splendor+ in the owner's manual is CR7HSA , I am running on CR7HGP presently but it's about 20k kms old now and due for change . But now I could not find either CR7HSA or it's g-power equivalent CR7HGP in market . Everyone ( including NGK's webpage ) says to use CR6HSA or CR6HGP instead . What is the experience using this one higher heat range plug in Splendor/+ ?

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  • djcena
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    recently painted .. i am always happy riding this bike. really gem of engineClick image for larger version Name: IMG20200217181923.jpg Views: 1 Size: 19.8 KB ID: 1969751

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  • djcena
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Check the charging voltage at the battery terminals with a multi-meter . while revving the engine it should go up to 14.5 volts DC . if it's too low than that your battery may be defective .
    Also it should not be because of headlight , as far as I can remember battery-charging and the lights are on a different circuit .
    ok sir, i will check with new battery.
    in the meanwhile i have removed LED headlights. switched to normal light and have added small LED lights on guard. its working fine
    is bl5c (5 am) battery supportive in older gen passion plus model
    earlier i had 2.5 am battery then switched to 4am.

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  • Pinaki
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by djcena View Post
    i have passion plus 2006 model. i have recently got its most of the work done.. now i am facing a problem.. the battery is not charging so i have changed rr coil and magnet coil. but still facing same issue battery is not able to charge. i have changed stock headlights to LED. is that cause of problem... pls help
    Check the charging voltage at the battery terminals with a multi-meter . while revving the engine it should go up to 14.5 volts DC . if it's too low than that your battery may be defective .
    Also it should not be because of headlight , as far as I can remember battery-charging and the lights are on a different circuit .

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  • prasath_xbhp
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    If you're from nearby Kerala I'd be glad to take the motorcycle off your hands

    On a serious note, find a more reputable mechanic, the Splendor is a lifetime motorcycle unlike the gay shit manufacturers try to sell you these days, if I were you I'd never part with it.

    Cheers,
    A.P.
    Did u mean the performance motorcycles manufacturers make these days?

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  • Pinaki
    replied
    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Spark-plug recommended for my 2010 Splendor+ in the owner's manual is CR7HSA , I am running on CR7HGP presently but it's about 20k kms old now and due for change . But now I could not find either CR7HSA or it's g-power equivalent CR7HGP in market . Everyone ( including NGK's webpage ) says to use CR6HSA or CR6HGP instead . What is the experience using this one higher heat range plug in Splendor/+ ?

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