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  • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
    Actually the pull is lost after 10000RPM, i only tried revving it to 12000 at 2500kms, it revved about 11500-11800, after that i never revved it that much.
    The tappets are sure culprits, get them checked, but be carefull about their adjustment ha.
    But from what i've read in all your posts, i'm pretty sure my bike doesn't rev or atleast generate usable power at very high revs as much as yours does.
    I'm pretty disappointed with the tvs svcs, my regular centre (kapoor) has a bunch of idiots working there, another one at thane (ashwini) doesn't even know how to wash the bike and deliver it clean to the customer, so forget about doing the jobs properly, and another at panvel (priyanka) did most of the jobs i mentioned properly, but fcked up the bike so bad in the cosmetics, i don't really want to mention it here, it will just piss me off more. So i've decided to get my tappets set at my old mech who's an RD and bullet specialist as well as a friend. If the svcs don't work well, screw em i say. Fixing a 4-stroke isn't rocket science. Not till the Fi or Ecu blows atleast

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    • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
      But from what i've read in all your posts, i'm pretty sure my bike doesn't rev or atleast generate usable power at very high revs as much as yours does.
      I'm pretty disappointed with the tvs svcs, my regular centre (kapoor) has a bunch of idiots working there, another one at thane (ashwini) doesn't even know how to wash the bike and deliver it clean to the customer, so forget about doing the jobs properly, and another at panvel (priyanka) did most of the jobs i mentioned properly, but fcked up the bike so bad in the cosmetics, i don't really want to mention it here, it will just piss me off more. So i've decided to get my tappets set at my old mech who's an RD and bullet specialist as well as a friend. If the svcs don't work well, screw em i say. Fixing a 4-stroke isn't rocket science. Not till the Fi or Ecu blows atleast
      Hey julianpaul where do u stay ..? from last 1year i get service my bike From Vijay TVS (Borivli) i stay at thane and i just complitly agree that Ashwini mech r not so good in adjusting such things . Last time i got my bike serviced from Ashwini and they just messed up with Bike (Ecu) tunning...it took bloody 5days just to tune it properly .
      But sure u can give it try @ Vijay TVs (Borivli)
      Its not enough to know how to twist the throttle; you must have judgement to know when and where to do it.

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      • I live at kharghar so borivli is a little too far. cheers anyway.

        Btw, how did they mess up the ecu exactly?

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        • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
          I live at kharghar so borivli is a little too far. cheers anyway.

          Btw, how did they mess up the ecu exactly?
          hey but do give it a try and try to go on weekdays . Ok see few months back in march i did my LAST Paid Service from ashwini that time so called Exper Engg came whn i told him that my is feeling little sluggish and some times gives jerks(sudden jumps in RPM) so he told me to change my Fuel Filter ...I said ok...Next day i went to pick up my bike n on Trail Run i noticed that bike is takin more air thn Fuel and was knoking a bit even on lower gears (1-2nd) It was giving full on jhatka and again RPM was still jumpig . So i told them to rectify it and it took Some More 5-6 Days to correct (yet it wasent solve properly) problem on 7Th day i got pissed off and told them to deliver my bike in whatever it is condition . Went straight to Vijay Tvs Borivli my mech took on nice Test Ride and came back did some adjustment with tappets and other things even after this bike wasnt behaving properly then he pluged in my bike with that TVS S/w and tuned it and told me to take Test Ride....TADAAA....Probmel was gone vrooommmm vroomm Zip Zaap Zoooommmm......! Thats how i came to knw that thana wala ppl messed up with EC?U tuning
          Its not enough to know how to twist the throttle; you must have judgement to know when and where to do it.

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          • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
            But from what i've read in all your posts, i'm pretty sure my bike doesn't rev or atleast generate usable power at very high revs as much as yours does.
            I'm pretty disappointed with the tvs svcs, my regular centre (kapoor) has a bunch of idiots working there, another one at thane (ashwini) doesn't even know how to wash the bike and deliver it clean to the customer, so forget about doing the jobs properly, and another at panvel (priyanka) did most of the jobs i mentioned properly, but fcked up the bike so bad in the cosmetics, i don't really want to mention it here, it will just piss me off more. So i've decided to get my tappets set at my old mech who's an RD and bullet specialist as well as a friend. If the svcs don't work well, screw em i say. Fixing a 4-stroke isn't rocket science. Not till the Fi or Ecu blows atleast
            Yes the bike makes power till 10000RPm and the rush till that RPM is pretty good,have you changed your fuel filter??

            Changing a fuel filter is one job and the pipe which goes to the injector from the filter is seriously bent, you mentioned it too in your earlier posts, i got it corrected when i changed that pipe with the one from MARUTI.
            i corrected the bend by forming a loop, and the difference in the throttle at high RPM was noted after that, so i think you shoud use new pipe and correct the bend and change the fuel filter.
            The fuel filter should be changed at every 5000kms.

            Originally posted by abhiwar View Post
            TVS S/w and tuned it and told me to take Test Ride....TADAAA....Probmel was gone vrooommmm vroomm Zip Zaap Zoooommmm......! Thats how i came to knw that thana wala ppl messed up with EC?U tuning

            Will enquire about the tuning through that software thing at the SC tomorrow.
            The Magician"

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            • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
              Yes the bike makes power till 10000RPm and the rush till that RPM is pretty good,have you changed your fuel filter??

              Changing a fuel filter is one job and the pipe which goes to the injector from the filter is seriously bent, you mentioned it too in your earlier posts, i got it corrected when i changed that pipe with the one from MARUTI.
              i corrected the bend by forming a loop, and the difference in the throttle at high RPM was noted after that, so i think you shoud use new pipe and correct the bend and change the fuel filter.
              The fuel filter should be changed at every 5000kms.




              Will enquire about the tuning through that software thing at the SC tomorrow.
              hello sir ye fuel filter 5k pe change karna jaruri hai kya..? i mean i changed it once in 10-12k kms and Be Very Very careful about using that s/w if mech dosent knw how to use that s/w kindly dont do it from that mech or SVC i mean its really irritating job to correct that tune if something goes wrong . In my case he corrected AFR and Co level of my bike to solve problem..
              Its not enough to know how to twist the throttle; you must have judgement to know when and where to do it.

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              • Originally posted by abhiwar View Post
                hello sir ye fuel filter 5k pe change karna jaruri hai kya..? i mean i changed it once in 10-12k kms and Be Very Very careful about using that s/w if mech dosent knw how to use that s/w kindly dont do it from that mech or SVC i mean its really irritating job to correct that tune if something goes wrong . In my case he corrected AFR and Co level of my bike to solve problem..
                Considering the quality of the fuel we get changing it at every 5000 kms is good practice, i changed mine at 7000kms and it was so dirty from inside that i thought i should be changing it at every 3000kms!!!!!

                Will go to SC to enquire about that S/W thing and will talk to the owner of the showroom too.
                The Magician"

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                • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                  Yes the bike makes power till 10000RPm and the rush till that RPM is pretty good,have you changed your fuel filter??

                  Changing a fuel filter is one job and the pipe which goes to the injector from the filter is seriously bent, you mentioned it too in your earlier posts, i got it corrected when i changed that pipe with the one from MARUTI.
                  i corrected the bend by forming a loop, and the difference in the throttle at high RPM was noted after that, so i think you shoud use new pipe and correct the bend and change the fuel filter.
                  The fuel filter should be changed at every 5000kms.
                  The manual specifies 9k. And i think tvs would know the condition of fuel and give an optimistic figure. 5k would be too soon i guess. Anyway best way to know is to chk the condition of the filter. If it's too dirty then reduce the interval the next time.
                  Anyways, i went to my mech and we checked out the fuel lines, i used maruti lines on all my previous bikes. But we figured that the original lines were molded into shape the right way providing the best flow from filter to injector. Using the maruti line actually created more of a bend and unnecessarily lenghten the line which would again impede flow. And it was difficult to route it under the tank. So we just changed two of the lines with originals because the old ones were a bit loose.

                  Also, i had my settings checked, idle, afr and co were spot on.
                  Last edited by julianpaul; 05-16-2010, 04:27 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                    The manual specifies 9k. And i think tvs would know the condition of fuel and give an optimistic figure. 5k would be too soon i guess. Anyway best way to know is to chk the condition of the filter. If it's too dirty then reduce the interval the next time.
                    Anyways, i went to my mech and we checked out the fuel lines, i used maruti lines on all my previous bikes. But we figured that the original lines were molded into shape the right way providing the best flow from filter to injector. Using the maruti line actually created more of a bend and unnecessarily lenghten the line which would again impede flow. And it was difficult to route it under the tank. So we just changed two of the lines with originals because the old ones were a bit loose.

                    Also, i had my settings checked, idle, afr and co were spot on.
                    i broke the filter with a hammer to see it's condition, it can be checked that way only.
                    still 5000-6000kms is the safe period i believe, will change mine at every 5000kms.

                    About the MARUTI lines , the pipe i used was one and a half inch lenghty than the original one and after forming a loop, it accomodated pretty well, it may be little of a phycological too but, it surely has imroved the top end RPM "rush" of the machine as the previous one was do severely bent that it even developed a crack.

                    This AFR, CO thing is making me worried now, will run to SC tomorrow.
                    The Magician"

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                    • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                      i broke the filter with a hammer to see it's condition, it can be checked that way only.
                      still 5000-6000kms is the safe period i believe, will change mine at every 5000kms.

                      About the MARUTI lines , the pipe i used was one and a half inch lenghty than the original one and after forming a loop, it accomodated pretty well, it may be little of a phycological too but, it surely has imroved the top end RPM "rush" of the machine as the previous one was do severely bent that it even developed a crack.

                      This AFR, CO thing is making me worried now, will run to SC tomorrow.
                      One thing I've learnt, be it bikes or anything, is to follow your instincts. If you feel you should change your plugs and filter at 5k then go ahead. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. They could be as wrong as you could. And if you are wrong you can rest in the fact that it was your own mistake.

                      Anyways, enough philosophy, i had mentioned earlier that my fuel line was bent when i first bought the bike, the svc fixed it by cutting the pipe shorter. But now when i fit the new pipe, it was a very smooth bend and the molding was just perfect. And i didn't feel i could improve it by adding the maruti. I wish we could ride each others bikes and figure out if there really was much difference. Coz i'm sure half the problems we have are in our heads.

                      Don't worry too much about the afr and co, it usually doesn't change much on it's own. It should be checked every service though, it's mentioned in the coupon, but i'll bet you the dumbasses don't do it unless you sit on their heads.
                      Last edited by julianpaul; 05-16-2010, 07:51 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                        One thing I've learnt, be it bikes or anything, is to follow your instincts. If you feel you should change your plugs and filter at 5k then go ahead. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. They could be as wrong as you could. And if you are wrong you can rest in the fact that it was your own mistake.

                        Anyways, enough philosophy, i had mentioned earlier that my fuel line was bent when i first bought the bike, the svc fixed it by cutting the pipe shorter. But now when i fit the new pipe, it was a very smooth bend and the molding was just perfect. And i didn't feel i could improve it by adding the maruti. I wish we could ride each others bikes and figure out if there really was much difference. Coz i'm sure half the problems we have are in our heads.

                        Don't worry too much about the afr and co, it usually doesn't change much on it's own. It should be checked every service though, it's mentioned in the coupon, but i'll bet you the dumbasses don't do it unless you sit on their heads.
                        Let's meet only Let's ve only RTR G2G.. or only EFI's G2g...hehe kidding...but i'd love to ride ur or another Efi..
                        Its not enough to know how to twist the throttle; you must have judgement to know when and where to do it.

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                        • Why not! we can meet somewhere like palm beach road vashi or some other decent stretch of road?

                          I'm sure there would be others who would like to meet too. gautam_k lives nearby and has an fi too. G2G thread?
                          Last edited by julianpaul; 05-17-2010, 02:13 AM.

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                          • help me to find this cable

                            hi friends

                            Today morg i cleaned my bike with cloth,while cleanig the right side of tank ,i noticed a cable below lying taped ,and i checked all the digitial speedometer , RPM meter works normally, fuel indication is correct and the unconnected cable comes from the BLACK HOSE from head light part........... friends help me to use of that cable or normally all of my RTR friends have this cable below our fuel tank

                            i have attached the image please check it friends

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                            • RTR done with 48.3k kms as of now. Done 3.7k kms since last service.....should drop the bike @svc tomorrow for service. need to buy motul 300v tonight.

                              Only problem i have now is the disc brake, slight oil leakage from clutch cam and slight woobling!
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                              • Originally posted by bamirthampr View Post
                                hi friends

                                Today morg i cleaned my bike with cloth,while cleanig the right side of tank ,i noticed a cable below lying taped ,and i checked all the digitial speedometer , RPM meter works normally, fuel indication is correct and the unconnected cable comes from the BLACK HOSE from head light part........... friends help me to use of that cable or normally all of my RTR friends have this cable below our fuel tank

                                i have attached the image please check it friends
                                there is no loose wire like that . have you altered wiring for anything ?

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