they need to.., the expectations of the fans would be sky high...

now there is one rather surprising thing....

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nicky and Ducati did the fastest lap of the race...??

this means 2 things
1) that mr. Rossi didn't had a good setup..., but he could have taken some clue from Nicky's..AFAIK there is no wall or stuff between them....

2) Rossi seriously needs to modify his riding style- only 2 persons(nicky and casey) who have been able to produce any results on 800 duc are dirt riders...

true. he's almost there.

and...

3. that Rossi raced at Silverstone for the first time.

Can any one tell the reason why Rossi joined the Qualifier , when only 30 mins was left?

^^ Did he? I don't remember that...
I think he was there from the start. It's just that he was coming in and going out pretty frequently. And also he was clocking laps so slowly that you might have missed seeing his name in the lap timings chart

^^He didn't join late, he was in on time. when others started their flying laps rossi was soon sent to the bottom at 14th or 15th (don't remember) after that when came back upto 13th then was sent back to 14th by elias(I guess) at that time the TV Telecast was only displaying the top 13 or 12 riders only which Rossi was not a part of.Once rossi came to 13th at near about 30 min left thats when the TV telecast displayed is name

I was watching this on TV and following it on motogp.com through live timing.

But 13th position start is horrible .. that too for Rossi..

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We have two problems. The first one is that the Yamaha and Honda are faster than us. The second problem is the performance of Nicky. Always he was faster than me, but this morning in the warm-up I was faster than him and for the race they were able to improve a lot and my bike was very difficult to ride.

"This means on the other side of the pit they work better than us and they are able to make a better result. The problem is we are too far away with the setting. We start are too far away from a good setting and we still have a problem on Sunday."

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So what does he mean by pointing it out as a prob ?! he s king there and he gets what he wants ! when the team mate is faster all the time why can t he just check the data ? He ain t god to fix everything on his own or is this his ego showing up ?

Rossi didn't like JLo peeping on his data during the M1 days. So may be Rossi doesn't wanna look at Hayden's data. Pure Gentlemanship!!

On developing the Ducati to make it ease for everyone. I dont think its achieved even to 1%. The ducatis are still finishing at the last. Hayden is still finishing almost on the same position as previous year. The only difference is Rossi's adaption.

But post Mugello will tell us a lot. :thumpsup:

Rossi is taking the saying "One has to beat his team mate first" very seriously

He probably wants to take all the credit of developing and simplifying the bike for all or may be he is pretending like that or may be it is true like when stoner said in the interview "Hayden should have tried adapting to the bike more than just waiting for Rossi to be simplifying the bike for him". There is a lot that goes inside behind the closed doors than we can ever know.
Plus he is now feeling the heat of it. Time is running out fast.
On the same topic, Superb click by Martin Heath:

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what i think is that the ducati is line a new thing for him entirely!He designed the M1 according to its true potential!i think he is trying a similar approach with the ducati!but i think he should try something new because ducati and yamaha are t10 entirely different bikes!the same setup style wont work for the ducati just because it worked on the yamaha!but rossi being the doctor of bikes,am sure he will come up with a proper setup not only for him,but also for nicky as well!He just needs some more time i guess!Fingers crossed for a scorcher Rossi at Mugello!

They can't and they won't provide something totally new.
Ducati won't have the capacity to support simultaneous developments on GP11 and GP12. GP11 is going to be obsolete after this year obviously.
The updates to GP11 are incremental to what they already have. As I posted earlier the developments on GP11 are just a consequence of fans' demand.
Anything completely new is GP12 not GP11


Some interesting things happening other than Rossi
2011 Silverstone MotoGP Monday Round Up - Tires, Elias, Moto2, The Twenty One-Three | MotoMatters.com | Kropotkin Thinks

Hmmm Then he should nt be complaining too. ok and this is what the planet thinks on Mugello updates
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I guess Nicky s thinking this his is chance for doing that and yes Aragon is gonna be interesting !

Stoners - Rear wheel Steering.

Many times, I have said it's the Art of Rear Wheel Steering that's required to make the Ducati go fast. Especially if you have a Screamer, where the Limited Rear Traction available allows you to Spin the Rear Wheel crazy. The Dirt / Flat / Grass / MX / Track racers are very good in doing this ... that comes naturally to them ( Yanks & Aussies & Scandinavians ). It's also very dangerous as you can lose the Low Side Quickly if it just crosses the threshold value. Often High sides can be controlled very effectively using this Technique. Micky Doohan was too good at it .. Now it's Casey's time ... as the Honda is singing to his tunes of Rear Wheel Steering. It also helps to ride as the Rear Wheel grip fades away or when Limited Traction available at the Rear ... but the Front had to be planted Solid.

Years before, during the late 80's when I was a Mechanical Engineering Student, we use to hunt for used Motorcycle Magazines & Tech Books (Platform Vendor / Old news paper store / people coming from abroad ). Once we were lucky to get Cycle Magazine ... in which Kevin Cameron & Company explained how the Trellis 90 Degree L-Twin Ducati had to be ridden to get the maximum unlike the screaming inline 750 - Four Superbike's of those days ( Honda was exceptional with the 90 Degree V-4 ... trying to do Screamers / Big-bang using ... 180 / 360 Degree Crank ).

Those words are still partly imprinted in my mind Fast in with Throttle open untill the last braking point hard on brakes ... Quickly Flip In & out of the Truns ... and Simply power out with wide open throttle as soon as the bike stands up. The whole thing was demonstrated with FBF ... Fast by Ferracci 851 or 888 Superbike, if I can recall correctly.

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Cheers - TZ750

Ganesh we ve been discussing this for sometime here this is good tech info to make ppl understand the difference.

And there s a big difference in how the inlines and the V 4 s put down the power to the rear so are you saying whoever moves from the V4s to the inlines or vice versa are gonna suffer for a while ?

The only exception i see is Haga and Edwards, They ve been successful in all kinds.

But rossi moved from 990s honda V5 to inline 4s what kind of change would have he made back then to his riding ? We have Less info on that cos he was successful so no one cares !