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  • Happened to see the crash on TV. Really disheartening to know Tomizawa succumbed to it.
    May his soul Rest In Peace.

    My views on the YZF-R15 V2.0: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/198...tml#post699240

    The pleasure is when your rear wheel slides, and you bring it back; and when the front wheel lifts, you take your time bringing it back.

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    • RIP - Peter Lenz and Shoya Tomizawa.

      I feels its too many bikes in moto2. and the start positioning shud be like motogp and not like 125 cc. We lost 2 riders now!!
      Last edited by prabhubravo; 09-06-2010, 12:36 AM.
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      • RIP Peter Lenz and Shoya Tomizawa...

        Agree with Prabhu on the number of riders in Moto2, but Today's crash I dont think Tomi could have avoided it, there just wasnt time/Space to get out of the track...

        Surprised that the Red Flag was not issued after the incident and yeah saw the drop from stretcher which was mostly due to the panic/hurry of the crew
        Hammer the racetrack. Pace yourself on the street.

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        • Was busy watching WSBK on ESPN & just flipped to see what Toni & gang are doing & at the same moment saw this horrendous crash, didn't have the heart to watch further. RIP Tomi

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          • Shoya Tomizawa crash was really horrible crash to watch, after seeing him before the race truly terrible sight , hope not to be repeated again very bad month for motorcycle racing after TT and Indy fatalities, reminds me of Alex Zanardi crash in Germany.

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            • Rest in peace, Mr. Tomizawa.

              Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
              Not very happy with the way the incident was handled.
              Did anybody see the guys actually dropped Tomi while taking him out of the track on the stretcher?
              And the race should have been red flagged; both Redding and Tomi were unable to move after the crash (not sure of the rule book but still...)
              Yeah, I remember that one. Initially there were only 2 guys to hold the stretcher. Even when more came afterwords, they were not fast enough to carry Tomizawa quickly.

              A very bad bad thing to happen to motorsports. :-(
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              • This is the first accident I've seen that has led to death of a racer.
                The moment I saw the crash it looked horrendous. Tomizawa just lay on the track like a rag doll. I was in tears for the rest of the evening.

                RIP Tomi, you will be missed. He was only 19.

                @prabhubravo: How would MotoGP style starting grid have avoided this?

                My heart also goes out to Redding and Angelis. I can only wonder what they must be going through now. Be strong guys.
                All riders fall; some get back on, some don't, some can't...

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                • Do you guys know why he crashed?

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                  • Originally posted by sheelpriye View Post
                    Do you guys know why he crashed?
                    He ran slightly wide on the Astroturf at the fastest segment of the circuit.
                    And there is absolutely no grip there.
                    All riders fall; some get back on, some don't, some can't...

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                    • looks like the front end went as it was on straight, ones immediate behind him had no way of avoiding hitting him, if it was on curve then there was chance of avoiding hitting as we have seen many a times due to lower speeds and different lines and rider and bike ending away from the track

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                      • Originally posted by strider View Post
                        RIP Peter Lenz and Shoya Tomizawa...

                        Agree with Prabhu on the number of riders in Moto2, but Today's crash I dont think Tomi could have avoided it, there just wasnt time/Space to get out of the track...

                        Surprised that the Red Flag was not issued after the incident and yeah saw the drop from stretcher which was mostly due to the panic/hurry of the crew
                        I don't think such kind of incidents can be avoided by reducing the number of bikes on the grid. The pile up that usually happens in moto2 due to the crowd is in the turns and riders don't carry much of speed and very unlikely to be a fatal crash like the one happened yesterday.
                        You can't expect such things to happen and probably can't prepare for it.
                        If you see the crash Tomi should have just slid through the track and ended up in the gravel trap but his bad luck that he ended up on the track only to be hit by other riders.
                        He got hurt on the abdomen and thorax. He was on artificial respiration due to those injuries. They didn't airlift him to the hospital to facilitate the respiration. He had a heart attack and sadly didn't survive

                        PS: Was reading the other forums about the red flag. Apparently the race is red flagged only if the guys aren't able to clear the "debris" off the track in time. They were able to remove the bikes and the riders in time hence race wasn't red flagged.

                        Edit: http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/P...Shoya+Tomizawa
                        Last edited by TheRedPill; 09-06-2010, 01:48 PM. Reason: bad english fixed.

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                        • Originally posted by hirenmistry View Post
                          He ran slightly wide on the Astroturf at the fastest segment of the circuit.
                          And there is absolutely no grip there.
                          Riders are using rumble strips strips as part of the race line when ideally they should be staying on the track surface. Problem is if you make the runoff harsher you end up killing riders too so its hard to prevent.

                          They have to run up there to be fast and definitely contributed to this crash. It's hard to create a warning area on the edge without them either using it or it crashing them.
                          But still FIM should do something about this.

                          Wayne Rainey was a victim of the same track(paralyzed for life), perhaps the track was wet partially as said by svj.

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                          • crash video

                            For those who haven't seen the crash, here's a short clip that I found.


                            Warning: Not for the faint hearts.
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                            • Originally posted by hirenmistry View Post

                              @prabhubravo: How would MotoGP style starting grid have avoided this?
                              when we split the grid with 3 in a line, the riders will have more space, so they can alter their line. This might have saved Peter L.

                              Regarding Red flag, I felt red flag was not needed as the crew reached the spot soon and cleared the rider.
                              Why were they not carrying him fast? - In my First Aid class, I was told that the injured should not be jerked when he is carried.(expect for Fire incidents). ofcourse, Im not an expert in this.
                              He falling off - Unexplainable !!
                              Last edited by prabhubravo; 09-06-2010, 04:24 PM.
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                              • Peter Lenz died in the qualifying, not in the actual race. They don't race in grid of 4 in qualifying.

                                Correction: Warm Up lap. Not qualifying
                                Last edited by TheRedPill; 09-06-2010, 04:22 PM. Reason: incorrect information posted

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