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  • All the races were awesome full of excitement. This was probably one of the best race weekends. The MotoGP race, as already mentioned, was superb. Thanks to the Electricity board they shut down down the electricity for exactly 1 minute at the beginning of the last lap. You can imagine what I went through . Anyways, the brilliant performance at the front by both the Yamaha riders is just unspeakable. If Rossi is the King, Lorenzo is the prince. He is probably the toughest competitor for Rossi yet in the team and motogp. And Applauds fo Stoner for pushing himself even when he nearly wanted pulled up into the pit mid-race.

    Anways, why no one has mentioned about one of the biggest blunder of the weekend? The 125CC race. Julian Simon kept Andrea Iaonne behind him for the whole race. And after ending the second last lap he though he won and started celebrating before realising that the race is still on. By the time he realised he has already fallen 4 positions back. He then tried everything he could to gain a podium finish. He scored third. He went to the Bike stable as the 3rd position holder only to be disappointed to know later that he was actually fourth and Gadea has got the third place in photo finish. What a nightmare for Julian Simon.
    Last edited by leon_nerd; 06-15-2009, 07:27 PM.
    Enna Rascalla. Mind it !!!

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    • Originally posted by leon_nerd View Post
      Anways, why no one has mentioned about one of the biggest blunder of the weekend? The 125CC race. Julian Simon kept Andrea Iaonne behind him for the whole race. And after ending the second last lap he though he won and started celebrating before realising that the race is still on. By the time he realised he has already fallen 4 positions back. He then tried everything he could to gain a podium finish. He scored third. He went to the Bike stable as the 3rd position holder only to be disappointed to know later that he was actually fourth and Gadea has got the third place in photo finish. What a nightmare for Julian Simon.
      The ecstasy of Rossi's victory overshadowed the 125 incident . But I am still wondering how did this happen. Was it a blunder by the rider wrongly reading the board or was it a mistake by the team not showing the correct status.

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      • Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
        The ecstasy of Rossi's victory overshadowed the 125 incident . But I am still wondering how did this happen. Was it a blunder by the rider wrongly reading the board or was it a mistake by the team not showing the correct status.
        It was the board. The commentator mentioned Julian saying that he was looking at the big board across the finish line which said Lap 0 while his team was holding the board saying L1 which mean't he still was supposed to go 1 more lap. But, he didn't see the team board and thought he won. You must have seen his team screaming to go for one more lap when they say him celebrating. It was really embarrasing after leading the whole race to lose like that in front of such a huge crowd. Damn. I would be crying .

        But, I am not really sure what was the reason. Maybe his team did some mistake which is why they held the board out to tell him that there is still 1 more lap to go. Well there was no flag. Simon should have looked for the flag at least. I guess that's a basic thing to do.

        For whoever missed it, here it is; You HAVE to see it :
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeVTm0aZEsc
        Last edited by leon_nerd; 06-15-2009, 07:41 PM.
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        • Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          Yup that time he'll be blabbering about his win hinting Rossi couldn't beat me up even though I wasn't 100% . Just joking.
          This is exactly wat you were expecting but he never does that..

          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          But on the serious note, my point here is
          There is a thin line between being clever and being stupid/arrogant in front of media with the same words in different scenarios.
          Yes and you are over looking at that thin line.

          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          How do you think that Lorenzo will have grudges against Stoner when it was Lorenzo's mistake himself when he crashed. Again seeing and interpreting a scenario in a way that suits your preference.
          oh come on!. A simple scenario will explain. I and U Go for racing and you try hard to over take me but you fall. I come back and post here that Sumit tried hard to pass, but he failed and fell. Read this a couple times and you temp will be high!
          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          May be he was too scared to be left behind in the points table if he retires from the race (wise decision of going through with the race) and might not be able to cover up the points afterwards in the championship .
          And who doesn't have problems before/during the race. Ask Dani how he must have felt while riding on total pain killers.
          oh! when stoner does that he is scared!
          Thats what the riders do dude. Its not winning the battle its winning the war. In Mugello when Rossi was behind by 7 secs, he didnt push hard to win the race. Instead he rode smart and get as many points as possible. Same thing stoner kept his cool and got his points. Now, whats the reason for you to say that "Stoner was mentally out"??

          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          I didn't get which incident you are talking about.
          Rossi's DNF in Le Man's.

          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          That wasn't any critics quote. It was my personal thought that he goes down when it comes to close fairing to fairing type races which was most evident in Laguna Seca last year.
          I am sure you haven't gone through those race reports and critics about Stoner.
          Come on! how long will you be chanting about that win? He fell because there was some gravel on the road, which is not possible for the riders to see that. Even we miss to see that in our normal 60kmph. This is something like you said - seeing and interpreting a scenario in a way that suits your preference.

          Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
          For Nicky it's the first time he is handling the Ducati. But if stoner, who has won a championship on ducati and has been riding for 3 straight years, says that he isn't accustomed to the machine then it doesn't make any sense.
          Again dont try to twist this around. He never said riding the ducati is difficult. Its Nicky who said it.

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          • Originally posted by leon_nerd View Post
            Anways, why no one has mentioned about one of the biggest blunder of the weekend? The 125CC race.
            Quoting myself:

            Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
            Try to watch the repeat atleast. On net/TV dont know...But trust me it will be well worth it. MotoGP was thrilling and 125s provided some comic relief
            Thought everybody would have watched it Second last lap of 125s was when I woke up actually. Till then the TV was on mute. A casual glance at the screen I saw one rider celebrating victory and others riding past with their heads down Really how can something like this happen? At that level?
            A lone amateur built the ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic...

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            • Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
              Quoting myself:



              Thought everybody would have watched it Second last lap of 125s was when I woke up actually. Till then the TV was on mute. A casual glance at the screen I saw one rider celebrating victory and others riding past with their heads down Really how can something like this happen? At that level?
              I was slightly boozed while that happened and was hurling bucketloads of abuses at him! Im sure my watchman has learnt some nasty english and desi 'gaalis'. And to add further insult, he got the news that he's in 4th place much after the race ended.

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              • Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                This is exactly wat you were expecting but he never does that..
                You missed the smiley part I think "" for lightening the things up.
                Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                Yes and you are over looking at that thin line.
                Yes I do. Because when you are at that level you represent yourself as a brand and things like this will only make things sour yourself only.

                Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                oh come on!. A simple scenario will explain. I and U Go for racing and you try hard to over take me but you fall. I come back and post here that Sumit tried hard to pass, but he failed and fell. Read this a couple times and you temp will be high!
                He he he I don't think they seek consoling words from their rivals after a defeat or crash a pal. This might be true in case of same team riders but not for different teams or rather manufacturers.

                Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                oh! when stoner does that he is scared!
                Thats what the riders do dude. Its not winning the battle its winning the war. In Mugello when Rossi was behind by 7 secs, he didnt push hard to win the race. Instead he rode smart and get as many points as possible. Same thing stoner kept his cool and got his points. Now, whats the reason for you to say that "Stoner was mentally out"??
                Neither you or I know he was mentally out or not. But it was quite evident according to from his successive defeat interviews that he is saying negative words his performance in front of fans or media. If a person keeps talking like this to others eventually he'll end up believing in those words and becomes a habit which is not right.
                Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                Come on! how long will you be chanting about that win? He fell because there was some gravel on the road, which is not possible for the riders to see that. Even we miss to see that in our normal 60kmph. This is something like you said - seeing and interpreting a scenario in a way that suits your preference.
                As long as people keep comparing Rossi and Stoner which is oh so not right.
                And check out the video again and you'll see him losing balance, going wide and falling into the gravel. Not because of gravel on the track. And why he went wide?? It was because of pressure from behind by Rossi. Which clearly says about him not ready for a fairing fairing kind of racing.

                With "went down" I didn't mean him falling down from the bike, I meant he mentally lost the battle which is why he ultimately he lost his control.

                Originally posted by prabhubravo View Post
                Again dont try to twist this around. He never said riding the ducati is difficult. Its Nicky who said it.
                I never said that those words were said by stoner. You only said it is hard to control the Ducati.

                Anyways I do not want to continue this further. You being a Stoner/Ducati fan will interpret in a way and I being Rossi fan will interpret in different ways.

                At the end of the day it is the sport wins which we love. So peace and enjoy the racing

                Out and no more post in this Rossi/Stoner comparo topic.

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                • When you represent a brand truth helps more. but there are ppl who say "we did our best and we are happy with the result" when they are down on the list. I like the first!

                  Showing a companionship to a competitor will help having a friendly relation. But showing a rivalry to one's own team mate is not good.
                  I guess you are liking this other way round!

                  Yes neither you or me know if he was mentally out of not. then Y call him to be mentally out?
                  Its not only the defeat interviews, he says the truth in win interviews too. This shows him as a man. Instead not accepting the mistakes and finding some crooked reason for a defeat will make a person worse!

                  Just one race, and told go ga ga with it.

                  I said Nicky told that. Well check your post again. U intercepted as Stonner saying it!

                  yup thats it from my side too!
                  Last edited by prabhubravo; 06-15-2009, 09:33 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by leon_nerd View Post
                    Anways, why no one has mentioned about one of the biggest blunder of the weekend? The 125CC race. Julian Simon kept Andrea Iaonne behind him for the whole race. And after ending the second last lap he though he won and started celebrating before realising that the race is still on. By the time he realised he has already fallen 4 positions back. He then tried everything he could to gain a podium finish. He scored third. He went to the Bike stable as the 3rd position holder only to be disappointed to know later that he was actually fourth and Gadea has got the third place in photo finish. What a nightmare for Julian Simon.
                    I did mention it here in my post
                    ** ting ting ta ting **

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                    • Andrea Dovizioso quickest in first of two 2009 season testing days.

                      The quickest rider of the session was Andrea Dovizioso, with a time of 1’42.230 set early onboard his new chassis-equipped Repsol Honda RC212V.

                      The five speediest riders were Dovizioso, Fiat Yamaha’s race day one-two of Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo (separated by less than a hundredth of a second), Mika Kallio and Casey Stoner, all quicker than the fastest Sunday race lap.

                      Source: Home | The Official MotoGP Website

                      ________________________________________

                      1 Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1'42.230
                      2 Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1'42.434
                      3 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1'42.446
                      4 Mika Kallio Ducati 1'42.637
                      5 Casey Stoner Ducati 1'42.763
                      6 Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1'43.188
                      7 Randy de Puniet Honda 1'43.247
                      8 Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1'43.299
                      9 Alex de Angelis Honda 1'43.360
                      10 Niccolo Canepa Ducati 1'43.391
                      11 Marco Melandri Kawasaki 1'43.506
                      12 Toni Elias Honda 1'43.708
                      13 Sete Gibernau Ducati 1'43.819
                      14 Nicky Hayden Ducati 1'44.157
                      15 Gabor Talmacsi Honda 1'45.056

                      Dani Pedrosa sat out the test, preferring to rest in the hope that his injured femur will recover in time for Assen, while the Tech 3 team are also absent. The Scot rookie Takahashi was out with a broken finger (first lap crash on Sunday).
                      Last edited by dominic; 06-16-2009, 10:21 AM.
                      ** ting ting ta ting **

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                      • Originally posted by leon_nerd View Post
                        It was the board.
                        ** ting ting ta ting **

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                        • Originally posted by dominic View Post
                          Good to see that I'm not the only one enjoying the 125's and 250's.

                          Like I mentioned in the earlier page. Simon is probably the new Youtube sensation
                          I might miss the occasional MotoGP race but never the 125's and 250's. These classes usually produce the best racing. MotoGP puts me off to sleep, just like F1.

                          Cheers
                          All riders fall; some get back on, some don't, some can't...

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                          • Originally posted by hirenmistry View Post
                            I might miss the occasional MotoGP race but never the 125's and 250's. These classes usually produce the best racing. MotoGP puts me off to sleep, just like F1.

                            Cheers
                            If the last motogp race made you sleep then I am wondering which one will keep you awake

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                            • It was one of the most "mind-blowing" races and finish I have seen !! It was Yamaha all the way!

                              Would that reflect on the street SBK's too is the question?? R1 v/s Fireblade ? If yes, then close your eyes and continue to buy R1's!
                              Life is like riding a bike. It is impossible to maintain your balance while standing still.

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                              • Originally posted by AnuragAshok View Post
                                It was one of the most "mind-blowing" races and finish I have seen !! It was Yamaha all the way!

                                Would that reflect on the street SBK's too is the question?? R1 v/s Fireblade ? If yes, then close your eyes and continue to buy R1's!
                                Winning GPs definitely increases the chance of pple buying their sports bikes !! This is the reason why manufacturers even participate in races, as a marketing tool !!

                                N Yamaha is surely selling loads of R1 on the back of Ben Spies and the blitzering M1s !! Thats not to say the '09 R1 is not a bike worth buying on its own accord tho !!
                                Kawasaki Ninja : Because lazy sunday afternoons should be despatched at 160 kmph!!!
                                Hyosung Aquila : Because sometimes you need to look cool while riding at 40 kmph and you can do that only on a cruiser !!!

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