OT: I used to wonder how you got the "Senior" member tag. Now i know how. Why do you go on a spam spree on all the posts? I have seen you doing the same to plenty, not one or two. And if you feel that you are being sarcastic, you are far from it. Please act mature. There is no competition here. Every bike is awesome in its own way. I kindly request you to stop spamming. Cheers

Immediate examples I remember are from mobile world : iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s.. all are selling at the same time with price gap.

Galaxy, Galaxy S2.. both are selling together..

Automobile world : Indica, Indica vista, Indigo, Indigo Manza (of course, only recently they made them Vista & Manza)

Coming to bikes : Passion plus & Passion pro.. without much difference.. you pay more for Passion pro

FZ-16 & FZ-S, again just for paint you pay 5-6% premium

Stunner & Stunner FI.. obviously you pay lot more for FI version. it's another thing that it doesn't generate lot of sales, but the point here is.. you can have two products under the same parallel with lot of gap in pricing. It happens everywhere! but like everything else, our market needs to mature for more time to see more examples like this.

IMO.. it doesn't sound right to suddenly say from tomorrow you won't get P150 in it's old form, you will have to buy the refreshed one only!! Pulsar series is a hugely popular brand.. so even if completely revamped ones come in, Bajaj will take its time to phase out the current generation pulsars. They will wait for the first signs, where demand for current generation is slowing down/fading off. Till then, I believe both versions will co-exist.

I don't have any doubt that current pulsars will be eventually phased out, but right now it may or may not happen with the advent of next gen pulsars.

Not all the technology was launched together.
First came DTSi, then came Alloy Wheels, then came the Digital Console, and then P200 (oil cooled) and then P220 DTSFi (FI, split handlebars and Rear Disk) and then the Split Handles were used in the other variants. Also, the all black styling. But core components have remained the same.
So, if you consider the difference between each version, the features were minor enhancements with the exception being the DTSi Tech. and then each feature was added in subsequent variations.

watch ur words boy .. surely ur going to get reply for ur words , i suggest to go for PM [personal msg] feature in the blog to convey ur words to specific person rather putting it in public .. ppl won;t tolerate harsh words from anyone which is against them. plz delete ur post and send PM


isn't it the risk free way ?? .. step by step approach results in lesser development time and quick product to market

Seems i am grossly miss understood. My responses are inline in Bold..

Just to sum up: Since the new gen Pulsars will be advanced in many fields (Technology, engine, chassis etc). It will not be feasible for it to co exist with existing Pulsar at meager price difference of 5-6%.
As it is not possible for any technically evolved product (bikes or any other thing) to be positioned in 5-6% price difference. May it be ZMA-ZMR, IPhones, Galaxy, Ford Fiesta etc. which co exist with good price difference
Or may it be Suzuki Swift or R15, Hyundai Verna or i10 where old was discontinued to give way to new as the price hike was very low...
OR FZ16-FZS, or Passion\Splendor variants. Where there is hardly any technical difference in two product and are like variants of same product...

It takes a lot of money to develop technically different product. Also it takes a separate production line for a new product which again require money. With such small difference of 5-6% its not possible to recover this cost. Hence either the old product is discontinued (like R15) or is re positioned to a lower level (Like in I Phone).

Even I am waiting eagerly for the new gen Pulsars, It has always been the product which creates new benchmarks in the segment and guides other products to upgrade to next level...

Opps, this seems like a long post. But i just wanted to clear the cloud...

It's true till date all upgrades were actually minor technical improvements and few new features. But Pulsars evolved a lot with these baby steps and indeed it was a good low risk way of evolving.
And now with good technical know how, its the time for the big leap...

First time in bike industry, makes me wonder...

another wheel?
front wheel drive?
three sitter?
front-engined?
rear-engined?
no engine?
CNG driven?
diesel driven?
Hydrogen driven? o.O
integrated with android 2.3 and 3G?
variable valve timing (v-tech)?
fuel injected on 2-stroke?
air-conditioning?
ABS with EBD?
Electronic rear view mirror?
Speedo will start from 60 as sticker job will make it look very fast even at stand still.
HDMI port?
passenger side airbag?
LED headlamp?
steering instead handle?
invisible?

^^^@Saurabh81 Do we miss 1,2,3 generation pulsars?? hell, no.. but they were only step ups when you compare with previous generation pulsars.

It's a different thing when you bring in completely revamped ones on to the picture. You are assuming that next gen pulsars can't be priced at premium to the existing ones and still be called pulsar. If you check at the examples given.. you know it's possible. There is enough room for Bajaj to maneuver the pricing. They can always knock off couple of thousands from existing pulsar's ex-show room price, that's not going to be a great deal for them. Next gen pulsars.. if they do come with all bells & whistles..they can very well command a premium.. courtesy :Pulsar branding. It's another thing if that is going to work or not for Bajaj! i'm all for replacing current generation pulsars with next gen pulsars. But, there is a good case for co-existence of current & next gen pulsars.

roflmao!!!!
Cant stop laughing!!!

OK.. for different generations of the same product selling side by side in India, the examples would be:
Chevrolet Spark & Beat (Both Chevy Sparks)
Maruti Suzuki 800, Alto, Zen, A-Star (All Suzuki Altos)
Hyundai Accent, Verna/Verna Transform, Fuidic Verna (these are all International Hyundai Accents)
Tata Indica and Vista
Tata Indigo and Manza
Ford Ikon, Fiesta Classic and New Fiesta (All Fiestas)
Skoda Octavia & Laura (Both Octavias Internationally)

Apple iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S is a valid example since they are 3 generations of the same product. The iPhone!

So is Samsung Galaxy S and S2. At the time of launch, these products were launched in the same segment and majorly sold at at roughly the same price point(adjusted for inflation). People bought Galaxy S for 28k when it was new. Now people buy Galaxy S2 for 28k.

In the above example, I can never think of a Motorcycle where 2 generations of the same motorcycle were ever sold side by side.
FZ-S is not a generation ahead of FZ-16
Neither was any of the Pulsar upgrade as yet (And they were never sold side by side)
Nor is Zma/ZMR a 'generation' apart.
R15 v2.0 can be called a generation ahead. (Debatable though) But it is better than what Hero Honda did with Zma over the years.
The only example I could think of is Bullet Standard and RE Classic 350 which are sold side by side.

These are not relevant examples guys...just concentrate on Bajaj Past...and just wait for few months.. All current version Pulsars will be faced out..It will be bad for Current owners but will be great for new buyers...

The same way in which the older Yamaha R15 customers are suffering because of the new R15 version 2.0.

The same way in which the Ducati 1098 should be unhappy of the 1198 and 1198 customers be unhappy because of the latest 1199 Panigale!!

For heavens sake grow out of your Hero Honda oppsss, Hero Mota herd mentality

cool cool cool

Btw, the FZ-S is mechanically a bit different from the old FZs, compare thier mileage, and thier carbs (and weight 1/2KG difference)

I still get parts for my P180 UG3. Can get for UG1 also if I want. You can go to market and check yourself...
So, I have no idea why I should be dissatisfied, as my present ride is not slowing down, no matter what new comes in the market. Getting my point?

+1 to that