Just hope TVS takes this bashing as a lesson & come out with a nice street & faired versons of >200cc bikes

Oh i get it now, did some googling.

Feel so foolish right now :/ Thanks for clearing my doubt

OK OK GUYs, am sorry my bad.

Just said what i knew, i said i can be wrong.


I got what you meant and i was confused, Thanks for clearing my doubt.

And i already said i appreciate BAJAJ for being progressive (KTM & KAWASAKI :O) but wish they would improve their build quality (which they've done in 200NS as far as pictures can tell).

Yeah i just feel sad for TVS, a lot of potential wasted there...... :/

"When you make an "oil" (nah it's not oil) coolant passing through the engine to cool it" - What you men here is a Liquid Cooled Engine (and its not called Oil Cooled).

Like I said even the Ducati Montser has got an Oil Cooled Engine (where the engine oil is cooled and sent back to the engine) + Air Cooled engine. By the way, the soon to be launched Pulsar 200 NS has got a Proper Liquid Cooled (and not Oil Cooled) engine.

I think ur confused. Oil-cooling is a simpler technology in which just oil gallery is passed in the engine head which leads it to the radiator or air fins and ultimately it the oil is cooled by air. That is what Bajaj also employed and exactly the same thing is also employed by Karizma ZMR. And you're the first person pin-pointing at it.
Well if we have pin-pointing attitude we can pin-point at everything right?

In comparison to that, Liquid cooling is a much complex technology and is employed by a mixture of water & something else( I forgot) which passed through the head of the engine and is cooled by the liquid cooling jacket itself rather than by air directly. Thankfully Bajaj showed its "prowess" by implementing Liquid cooled engine in P200NS
Misdirected? Dude how fair Bajaj has been with their words no manufacturer has been forget TVS. Recently Rajiv Bajaj said we cannot match Honda in sales but we can be very best. Isn't that praising another manufacturer and having the guts to say the truth. Does ur TVS have it? Its only you who felt misdirected. I have owned Bajaj, Hero Honda (in past) & Honda currently but I never felt misdirected. If Bajaj misdirected, TVS won't have followed its path now & then. Please stop posting baseless comments.

Dude, what i know is that there are broadly two types of engines, air-cooled ( cooled by the air hitting them from the front) and oil-cooled (when you make an oil coolant passing through the engine to cool it). I did not say that it was invented by BAJAJ. I said they just passed the ENGINE OIL through a box in front of the engine to cool it and sait that the bike is 'OIL-COOLED'(ie. oil coolant wala oil-cooled).

PHEW, i hope i've made myself clear. And if i'm missing something here please man i would like to know, i can be wrong !!

ALL EARS

it looks kinda dis-proportionate sideways true ,but to how much extent that will be clear unless we see that bike in flesh,till then happy tvs bashing you critics.

Dude relax.. you seriously need to read/add more to your knowledge about bike/bike engines.

Oil Cooling is not which was invented by Bajaj to "MISLEAD" desi customers. It existed on engines of other manufacturers much before it was featured on the Pulsars.

For your information even Ducati Monster (!!) has got an Oil Cooled + Air Cooled Engine..!! And yes the current ZMR and once upon a time sold Hyosung Comet also featured "Oil Cooled + Air Cooled" engines.

Kantu I still feel the way it was depicted it looked like dual headlamps. But the panigale type headlamps were tooo much for me to expect out of TVS so I kept my expectations low.
Somhow I am feeling that the new RTR's looks depends alot on colors. The yellow one was yuck but the green color looks impressive. The graphics on the tank scoops looks like paint coming off

Hey hey hey

Don't get me wrong here guys i just had had bad encounters with pulsars and so never liked them as a product and IMHO i find them strictly average. And please guys, every aware biker knows the difference between a real oil cooled engine(a coolant oil cooling your bike's engine) and bajaj's gimmick oil cooled (we will just make the engine oil pass through a box in front of the engine, the air will cool it and voila...air cooled).

I'm just against such misdirection by companies because one should uplift the level of awareness of the consumers and not cash on the lack of it.

Yes Bajaj has introduced Indians to affordable biking, yes they have introduced 'some' new technologies to the Indian biking scenario,

BUT it doesn't gives them a right to misdirect us, does it ?

On the other hand,
Yes i agree TVS has been slow in upgrading their products(i am continuously disappointed by it, yes their apaches look the same, yes they have their own share of niggles

But they NEVER MISDIRECT, AFAIK.


I'm just saying what i observed and feel please don't be harsh and sorry if i said something that bothers you BAJAJ owners I've nothing against any of you (what would i gain from that ?).


PEACE OUT FELLOW RIDERS !!

Answers in bold.
And I do think it was given too much of a preference, the LED eyebrow pilot lamps i.e, even in the video

Its on sale already ?
With all the gaga going around I think that eyebrows was really good and the first one to do so i think (crt me if wrong), some thing different which is what they promoted.
@Enthusiastic Dude it was always pilot lamps! I am still confused how many thought it as dual lamps !its so small ! obviously it was LED lights

Haha,nice one this




After straining our eyes with the taxi colored RTR, this looks a little saner..and I believe mono tones are the way to go for the RTR range.

Quoting Payeng from FB, "was this upgrade really necessary?"

Its not in the segment of these bikes. 160 would compete with the 150cc bikes (barring R15 ofcourse) and 180 would compete with the P180.

I disagree with the bold parts. Firstly the UG1, UG2 etc. were always positive changes and they bettered the bike not only aesthetically but also in the engine dept. They added many features subsequently (digi speedo, DTSi, split handlebars, better alloys, better colors) with power bump and the changes were always appreciated but this one is just south pole in comparison.
Also R15 V2 new colors provide good aesthetic looks. The Pulsar speedlines were also better in looks than the older versions and Bajaj was no vocal about it like TVS is now. And this is a negative change which spoilt everyones mood.

Yes you may say after it is revealed that they are just pilot lamps but the ways TVS showcased it anyone would take it for a dual lamps. Now it can't be if we dont expect just anything out of TVS. What so big about pilot lamps in this era that TVS is being so vocal about it. Complete stupidity and fooling the fans.

Yes it looks disproportionate. It kinda looks like a bigger flame to me. The tank scoops are a direct put on from the Flame. The front fender coloring and 3d logo of 180 takes inspirations from Pulsar 200NS. The Indian Flag logo is a copy from Ducati bikes. Also the front tank scoop and the headlight look weired. Coloring is unimpressive. The hyperedge TVS stickers were so impressive. Much better than this one.

V True.

well, not everybody is BAL and not everyone can deliver a P200NS. it needs a lot of focus and determination. clearly that is lacking in TVS.