I am failing to understand a simple point here and failing to make you also understand a simple point. Let me give it one more try.

Back to the title of the thread. "Yamaha to invest Rs 800 cr on capacity expansion, new products". If they waste the whole money which does not help them in gaining market momentum, I am wasting my time here, else if they have a good product line in mind also while making this announcement, you are wasting your time. Things like "I moved on", "I am not a fan boy", "I go for the best in the market", "Yamaha is lagging behind", "Yamaha has not done much" etc. will not help this thread in anyway. You tell me, will it ? "Yamaha could get me back if they plan a R25 at a reasonable cost". "Yamaha should improve a lot on service". "Yamaha should come up with a reasonable 250 cc cruiser". These will definitely help this thread and probably Yamaha to take up some cues for their forthcoming road map. They did a brilliant job of listening to the customers and gave v2.0 which took care of everything that people complained in v1.0. A Bigger engine would make it a different bike altogether so as a upgrade they "listened". Now it's right to give it sometime and wait and watch.

That said, let's stick to your conclusion.

Oh Boy!!! you are taking this too seriously and personally.
These forums are for discussions what riders feel and not only for providing a road map to a company. Just Imagine if every one start providing structured solutions here it will start looking like a boring board room discussion, which this forum is not...
In fact do you think if i express my felling Yamaha will not listen of if you provide a wish list it will be seriously accept and implement it? If they have got the will to listen they will listen it, any way you speak and they do listen, R15 V 2.0 is the living example of that. What they lack is clear strategy and guts to implement it.
Your wish list and my feelings have same crux, only way of presentation is different...
So let's have peace...

Well probably my ways of reading your posts were wrong if you say that our feelings have the same crux cause I was not able to figure out as how it was helping a discussion of a thread where Yamaha was indeed taking a step to improvement (in their own ways) with the continuous plethora of criticism coming with no mention about how this could help us or at least how you wish this could help us as a biker. And if you say negative criticism in a positive thread is what this forum is all about, then I think it's been long that I have visited this Forum.

No..Not again...
Anyways. One last time i'll summarize it:
From my first post itself i am saying:
1. Yamaha is known for technology and performance.
2. Yamaha has good fan following in performance biking enthusiasts since 80's
3. Hence Yamaha should recognize it's core competency and should build upon it.
4. It should not try to play the game looking at others. It had already made mistakes by launching small commuters in which is the strong hold of HH. Now if it tries to fight in already overcrowded 150 segment only it may not get desired success.
5. In Yamaha's press release of this 800Cr spend. They have mentioned 150c segments and some other things but no news for higher performance bikes. How can one expect they are even mulling an idea of performance bikes?
6. And finally, it's Yamaha's money they can spend the way they wan't. As they have been doing in past.
Hope its precisely how you want to listen, if not, i'll just Peace out...

Ah, now that's what a healthy debate gets out as a conclusion. Much much better post than the first post of yours in this thread.

So in short, yes I agree, Yamaha is known for sheer performance and that's something which we have been always relating to and craved for. That started in 80s and in this second round of Yamaha in India it is a mix of performance and looks which clicked well. Round 3, no clue but lets hope it lives up to the current market expectation.

I had asked my dealer about a 250 launch when I was booking my 2.0 and he said that there is one coming this year although it will not be a R25. It will be the next generation Fazer powered by a 250. Glad they keep the R series for bikes having the genes of the R series bikes instead of calling a Fazer 250 as a R25. I hate rumors hence I did not ask more details before something came out in concrete. Glad to be hearing more about it now in respected news feeds like BS.



It's interesting to see the Samurais spoiling the Indian bikers. While Honda plans to launch the CBR150 (Although I would still like to call it VFR150) against the R15, Yamaha plans to pitch it's new product right against what is giving Honda a good visibility. The VFR, sorry, CBR250.

Source : Battle of the Samurais in India

quarter litre segment is hotting up at the time of high fuel price.