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  • #46
    Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post
    This thread and responses confirms my notion that majority of the riders in India are posers and in real do not deserve anything more than a Luna....
    Some of my friends ride too fast while returning from office, but still end up taking same amount of time which a guy, read like me, riding at a speed of 30 to 50 K mph
    Originally posted by experimentalhead
    MODS PLEASE EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE...THIS IS JUST IN LIGHTER VEIN...FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CRAZY ABOUT SOUND THEIR PUNY MACHINES PRODUCE

    " ALL FART...NO SHIT...
    HEHEHE...SORRY IN ADVANCE IF I HAVE CROSSED THE LINE
    Yes you have. Not only in the lingo! You talk of rules of the road. Caps lock is not allowed as per xbhp rules.

    Originally posted by muztariq View Post
    Which Bike do you possess? If you go by the speed which you do.. any 97 cc is sufficient for your ride. Why are we seeing any bike above 100 cc on the road?? As per law 50 is the speed limit, which a bike like KTM/FZ/Pulsar/RTR/R15 etc. etc. have the capability to achieve in 3rd gear. In the real meaning of rules, we all are breaking one over speeding rule inside city everyday.
    If I remember correctly you have a saddlesore thread.. That is more illegal act than the ones these guys were involved in
    By this long post I just meant – We all are breaking the rule of overspeeding daily inside city (once or twice atleast). I dont know why you took it too personal and started using your big mouth.

    Originally posted by aargee View Post
    The speed limits on highway is applicable only for cars; for NP trucks & motorcycles it's 50 Kmph on any highway; two-wheelers is 40 Kmph or lower as specified inside the city limits. Anything over this is called over-speeding
    As per the above post, you have broken the rule by doing the saddlesore.. Clear your mind first and get the facts.

    Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post
    My firend I did Saddle sore on National Highways and not in city limits. That's number one.
    Number two, IBA clearly mentions that any attempt of Saddle sore or Bun burner is done on a route where rider has maintained illegal speed they will not approve the ride. Number three...If you followed my posts properly, I have mentioned that in city I always maintain a speed of less than 50 K mph. That much common sense I believe most of my friends in this community possess. Not sure about you though. – That’s a personal comment on me!
    I do not know where you live, but if you come to Bangalore and if you are riding at higher than 60 K mph spped in certain zones (Ex: International airport road; old air port road) you will be fined good money on the spot- Please clear up this fact too.. speed limit on Airport road is 80 km/hr as per Bangalore traffic rules. I have been fined for over speeding in my car there. You mentioned that 97cc is sufficient to maintain 50 Kmph speed. Now then, if you possess Ninja, which I doubt, what speed do you maintain in city limits...150 Kmph...going by your math...HAHAHA – That’s a personal comment on me! I meant on any bike its so very easy to cross the speed limit of 50 km/hr. We all are breaking the speed rule daily. I doubt if you strictly maintain less than 50km/hr inside city.. no one can especially when you are overtaking.
    I am not proving anything to you or to anyone here...and please do your homework before passing any comments...- That’s a personal comment on me! You need to do some homework , your saddle sore was ILLEGAL!! And you should be with those 14! If I were to maintain illegal speed for 1600 Kms...I would not be sitting here replying to riders like you...HEHEHEH - That’s again a personal comment on me. You did do it illegally and still have no remorse
    Your comment that majority of riders in India are posers!! And you are exceptional.. Is appreciated!

    Let me also tell you that you endangered the lives of many by attempting a saddlesore on an Indian road.

    Please refrain yourself from passing comments on the general public of our country. Some people like me do get hurt. You are not the one to decide who deserves a luna.

    Here is the link which informs what the rule says about maximum speed limit in India (on the national highways) 'its 50km/hr for motorcycles' and no speed limit for cars and that is defined statewise. State rules 'inside city' may vary.
    Attached Files
    Last edited by muztariq; 04-19-2013, 12:47 AM.

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    • #47
      Chill down guys. 2 senior members blasting nuts off one another doesn't give a good impression on either of you..

      Muztariq, the legal speed limit on BLR airport road for bikes is 50 kmph and 80 for cars.
      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
        Chill down guys. 2 senior members blasting nuts off one another doesn't give a good impression on either of you..

        Muztariq, the legal speed limit on BLR airport road for bikes is 50 kmph and 80 for cars.
        Even I thought that but the conversation that dishayu had with the cops there told a different story! The cops think its 80 for the bikes too ;-)

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        • #49
          Originally posted by muztariq View Post
          Even I thought that but the conversation that dishayu had with the cops there told a different story! The cops think its 80 for the bikes too ;-)

          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...-duke-601.html
          Well, it was a different story for me and few friends on a ride to nandi hills. We (4 guys on 3 bikes) were doing 80 odd when cops pulled over the last biker (on a ZMA). He was fined for doing 78 kmph as per their speed gun. We tried arguing over the 80 kmph thingy, but they clearly showed us a board depicting 80 with a car symbol. They said its only for cars and bikes must be ridden at 50 kmph. I know that's insane, but....
          Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
          Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

          Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
          Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
          ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
          P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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          • #50
            @ divya sharan, Out of respect for you, I deleted my response Time for me to go out and enjoy my birthday eve
            TN & Kerala Solo
            Saddle Sore
            Joy of Motorcycling Part 3
            Joy of Motorcycling Part 2
            Joy of Motorcycling Part 1
            Rann of Kutch Solo
            Western Ghats Solo
            True Wanderer 5 Finalist blog
            True Wanderer 5 Qualifying blog




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            • #51
              Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post
              @ divya sharan, Out of respect for you, I deleted my response Time for me to go out and enjoy my birthday eve
              Arrey bhai, such big words!!!

              B'day eve? Happy b'day in advance. Have a good one bro.
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
              Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

              Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
              Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
              ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
              P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                Arrey bhai, such big words!!!

                B'day eve? Happy b'day in advance. Have a good one bro.
                Big words for people who deserve big words buddy Thanks for your wishes
                TN & Kerala Solo
                Saddle Sore
                Joy of Motorcycling Part 3
                Joy of Motorcycling Part 2
                Joy of Motorcycling Part 1
                Rann of Kutch Solo
                Western Ghats Solo
                True Wanderer 5 Finalist blog
                True Wanderer 5 Qualifying blog




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                • #53
                  Originally posted by experimentalhead View Post
                  Big words for people who deserve big words buddy Thanks for your wishes
                  Happy B'Day.. May you complete many saddlesores in future. Now dont take this personal!! I was thinking what to wish, thhis appeared appropriate.

                  No sarcasm intended!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                    Happy B'Day.. May you complete many saddlesores in future. Now dont take this personal!! I was thinking what to wish, thhis appeared appropriate.

                    No sarcasm intended!
                    Thanks buddy I too wish you many happy and safe rides
                    TN & Kerala Solo
                    Saddle Sore
                    Joy of Motorcycling Part 3
                    Joy of Motorcycling Part 2
                    Joy of Motorcycling Part 1
                    Rann of Kutch Solo
                    Western Ghats Solo
                    True Wanderer 5 Finalist blog
                    True Wanderer 5 Qualifying blog




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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                      As per the above post, you have broken the rule by doing the saddlesore.. Clear your mind first and get the facts
                      Really don't want to be sarcastic to you; I neither have did or attempted or will never attempt for a saddlesore in India, don't know how you're confused on this

                      You want facts, pls go through this - Driving Speed,Speed Limit in India,Speed While Driving

                      Will get you the link from the MV, pls wait...
                      Last edited by aargee; 04-19-2013, 01:04 AM.
                      Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                      ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                      • #56
                        Well, I don't understand why we have to argue over this. The speed limit for a motorcycle on Indian highways are 50 kmph and we are breaking the law if we go over that limit. Keeping that in mind we may actually use our discretion to decide when and how we can use the power of our bikes. Do not cross the ceiling in city limits and at crowded places. Still we are breaking the law when going over 50 kmph. Our speed limits have to be raised by the MV authorities. I think these ceilings are proposed based on decades old machines and tech. Times have changed and so have the capabilities, techniques and safety features. Doing a decent 80-90 on a four lane highway is safe IMHO.

                        But, the crime committed by those 14 kids were nothing but 'racing' on an open road, presumably in city limits or near living quarters, and being nuisance to people nearby. That said, everyone doesn't have the opportunity to go to a closed circuit course, right?
                        Last edited by evyavan; 04-19-2013, 02:36 AM.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          Really don't want to be sarcastic to you; I neither have did or attempted or will never attempt for a saddlesore in India, don't know how you're confused on this

                          You want facts, pls go through this - Driving Speed,Speed Limit in India,Speed While Driving

                          Will get you the link from the MV, pls wait...
                          I was just referring to your post to experimentalhead and telling him that speed limit for Motorcycle is 50 km/hr on Highway.. I was not saying that aargee did saddlesore or even attempted it! Again, I didnt asked you to clear your facts.. but was actually telling experimental head to read your post and clear his facts.

                          I am not getting it, why you think I am confused on this.. I have already provided the link of allowed speed limits in India and also mentioned that statewise speed limits can vary from that. If you want another reference to it, here it is -


                          Well. my humble opinion is -
                          1)We all are breaking the rule (knowingly/unknowingly)
                          2)Every present machine on the road has the capability of breaking the rule as 50 km/hr is achieved in the 3rd gear on most of the machines and to cruise effortlessly (and increase mileage) we cruise at 60-80 km/hr on most of the machines and break the rule.
                          3)If IBA does not allow rides if one has crossed the country's legal speed limit.. then there is no IBA ride that may be allowed in India
                          4)I am not a lawyer, but there is enough material (proof) of people having crossed the speed limit of the country. One can be easily prosecuted with that data. The IBA log sheets, the fuel receipts, the photographs are all there And Youtube is filled with 0-100 km/hr videos of every marketed bike!

                          My post on this thread just reflected my point of view that I am no other than those 14 guys and breaking the rule of the land every day.

                          Though I am not racing. Which is defined like this as per the Motor Vehicles Act 1988
                          "Whoever without the written consent of the State Government permits or takes part in a race or trial of speed of any kind between motor vehicles in any public place shall be punishable with imprisonment for a term which may extend to one month, or with a fine which may extend to five hundred rupees, or with both.
                          " Source - http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/mot...rials_of_speed
                          But I am definitely overspeeding (I live on a connecting Highway and to overtake people going at 60 km/hr on the left lane I have to increase speeds in access of 80km/hr to do it correctly/safely as cars on the other lane are doing 100 km/hr. If I were to follow the rules and ride consistently at 50, why I bought this bike my 97 cc splendor was more than sufficient!)
                          Last edited by muztariq; 04-19-2013, 08:00 AM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by muztariq View Post
                            But I am definitely overspeeding
                            We all are, we all are...all of us are!!

                            It is frigging crazy & idiocratic idea to restrict the speed of motorcycles, or even a truck/bus like Volvo, Merc. If the COVERment is serious, then they've to ban production or import motorcycles that exceeds 50 Kmph on road. It is really doesn't make sense (or even BS) to say, "yes, you can import Hayabusa, Gixxer or R1, but, you should not ride more then 50 Kmph" Instead of fixing the root of the issue, the ridiculous people are shredding the leaves with shaving razor!!!
                            Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                            Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                            ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                            • #59
                              having a racetrack accessible for normal people would definitely be a great thing, if you see now a days like europeans even southeast asian countries are massively inclining towards the concept of a weekend trackday. the love for speed naturally lingers in our country also but nobody acknowledged it and these poor guys give in to the temptation of speeding in public roads.
                              but in Indian roads it is not like if the rider is very expert, he will be able to go fast as he wishes, I would say in bangalore what I felt
                              1. road condition like sudden speedbreakers, gravel patches, uneven road construction, potholes like pakistan did some bombardment
                              2. suicidal pedastrians looking nowhere but simply crossing the roads
                              3. cab drivers having no regard for any other kind of vehicles on the road (even if they hit you, these guys will gang up on you and screw you up)
                              4. some female drivers on their husband's cars who have no idea where the front or rear of their car is (one hit me trying to park her car when I was stationary in front of a shop another hit my friend and dragged him along for some distance thinking the accelerator pedal as break )

                              If I am taking the risk to going fast on the road, it is actually increased tenfold then what it seems.
                              Ride safe dudes, dont give people who are jealous of you chance to be happy. Dont mean to offend anyone but its just my opinion from experience

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                              • #60
                                The only thing that bugs me is that people regard the biker in the same way as these 14 idiots

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