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  • #61
    Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

    Originally posted by payeng View Post

    And like Old Fox sir mentioned, you probably were riding the Ninja 250 slow

    Might be, I was no where near what Ninja is capable of but I did manage to hit quite a few curves at 100-120kmph. I felt R15 took less efforts at these speeds. The Ninja was very confidence inspiring though, but, so was the R15.
    And to me except for the braking part, the R15 v1 seems to be a better handler than v2. Braking is better on the v2 because of the better grip from wider tyres.
    But then again I would say, may be its just me.


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    • #62
      Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

      I dont know why people always complain about the bike not having the Race Track like handling or not a track focused bike. Why these guys are so much after the So Called Track Like handling. And these guys will always compare the other bikes with the R15 (coz its track focused or some other sun litre bike).

      First of to all those guys complaining about the bike not a track focused bike and always screaming about the handling (Rossi kind of feeling), do you guys buy a bike and spend time on circuit on a racetrack???

      And the guys who call themselves as a racers, these chaps go for a DRAG RACE on near by highway and start calling themselves as a Pro Racers.

      I dont why these guys are so confused and cry always for a bike came out of a race track.

      In India, we need a all rounder bike, which you a good handling and which can go anywhere and can absorb any bumps on the potholes. Bajaj, TVS, Hero and etc makes bikes for all round performance not solely based for track based bike.

      So stop crying like a baby for not having a toy. Appreciate the machine. And stop acting as racer breed guy.

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      • #63
        Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

        Seriously I want to know, where do you people go and corner around that you demand for a track handling bike. Those all who posted here in the favour of Yamaha for it's track handling performance, I'd like to know which of you scrape your knees at 100+ ?

        I agree with the above guy.

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        • #64
          Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

          [MENTION=14044]Rajat Bhanti[/MENTION] and Nawazish: The people who buy the R15s and the Ninjas (especially the Ninja 300) or any other such motorcycle, don't make them look like wannabe racers and that their motorcycles are not worth their investment. Some might be wannabes, but then a wannabe can be on any motorcycle. Nobody is arguing that a motorcycle *must* have a track focused handling, members were just discussing about R15's handling capabilities which, I agree, might have been an OT in this thread. However, guys like you who prefer all rounder *especially* in India, there are guys like us who also like more concentrated motorcycles like R15 for example. We do not have to scrap our knees each time we ride a motorcycle with track focused handling to enjoy it, not just in India but people don't scrap knees in US or EU each time they ride on public roads on such motorcycles (though the road conditions there are probably more appropriate). You don't have to feel pissed off when someone prefers such a motorcycle. It's good that we have motorcycles to suit different preferences.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Rajat Bhanti View Post

            So stop crying like a baby for not having a toy. Appreciate the machine. And stop acting as racer breed guy.
            Apologies for going OT. I was not comparing or asking for the new pulsars handling to be like the Yamaha R15. I just shared my views with other members on how I feel about R15 and Ninjas handling. I know wrong thread but since both the bikes were mentioned before, I chipped in.

            Ps: Who would not want an all rounder? A bike which can perform in every situation and still be as good on the track. Duke comes to my mind. What say?

            I am not saying this because I own a duke, well, not yet. The duke in my avatar is my friends which fortunately is with me most of the time.

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            Last edited by DukeDey; 07-27-2013, 03:43 PM.
            Why 2wheels over 4.....
            Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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            • #66
              re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

              [MENTION=19026]Satellite.kid[/MENTION]
              You took me wrong dude. If you ask me to pick 1, I'd rather opt for a R15. I saw many above posts which said that pulsars arn't good when it comes to handling. So what I meant in my previous post that its not true.
              They might not be the best. But they are not far away from yamaha's and ninja's etc etc. when it comes on indian roads.

              Please dont take me in any wrong sense.
              R15 may not be the best yamaha bike, but pulsar is the best bike bajaj ever made. I dont like seeing bajaj engineering team to get discouraged. They are rocking and will always.
              Sorry if I have hurt anyone, but I am a patriot

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              • #67
                re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

                Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                Apologies for going OT. I was not comparing or asking for the new pulsars handling to be like the Yamaha R15. I just shared my views with other members on how I feel about R15 and Ninjas handling. I know wrong thread but since both the bikes were mentioned before, I chipped in.

                Ps: Who would not want an all rounder? A bike which can perform in every situation and still be as good on the track. Duke comes to my mind. What say?

                I am not saying this because I own a duke, well, not yet. The duke in my avatar is my friends which fortunately is with me most of the time.

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                Honda giving all rounder premium bike for Indian roads.for example cbr 150r,250r...both have racing aerodynamic sports design and engine performance and best tourer and also good for track,mainly pillon friendly.....

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                • #68
                  Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand?

                  Ps: Who would not want an all rounder? A bike which can perform in every situation and still be as good on the track. Duke comes to my mind. What say?
                  Again Dude you are mentioning track here. You tell me how many chaps do circuits in India.

                  Handling is a very essential part of every bike, but we don't need a track to prove it. Do we in our daily lives scrap our knees in the city ride or anywhere else???

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                  Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
                  @Rajat Bhanti and Nawazish: The people who buy the R15s and the Ninjas (especially the Ninja 300) or any other such motorcycle, don't make them look like wannabe racers and that their motorcycles are not worth their investment. Some might be wannabes, but then a wannabe can be on any motorcycle. Nobody is arguing that a motorcycle *must* have a track focused handling, members were just discussing about R15's handling capabilities which, I agree, might have been an OT in this thread. However, guys like you who prefer all rounder *especially* in India, there are guys like us who also like more concentrated motorcycles like R15 for example. We do not have to scrap our knees each time we ride a motorcycle with track focused handling to enjoy it, not just in India but people don't scrap knees in US or EU each time they ride on public roads on such motorcycles (though the road conditions there are probably more appropriate). You don't have to feel pissed off when someone prefers such a motorcycle. It's good that we have motorcycles to suit different preferences.


                  Who said that those guys who bought R15 and N250R or some other same class bikes are not worth there investment. What I was saying that guys are mentioning track like handling time again and again (which is pissing me off not for those guys bought those machines or blah blah blah).

                  No doubt in that buddy, these bike handles far better in there respective class. But I want to ask you on question that Do really guys in here buys those bikes considering the Track Like Handling (90% of the Janta Don't).

                  As far as I know those 90% of the Janta reads the brochure ti know HOW MUCH POWER THEY PRODUCE, and for the love of Fairing (which I also do).

                  So, I was making my point on they guys crying for track like handling. You can read this thread again and read it carefully, because guys mentioning the work track like handling very often.

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                  • #69
                    re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

                    I see a lot of lame speculations from one not so detailed statement. Anyway here's my speculation, A budget p150(or p180) and the Pulsar 350(or 370 if they're gonna call it)
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                    • #70
                      Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

                      Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                      To add to this discussion, please check this,

                      Bajaj Pulsar 220SS- Fairy Version | Latest Updates

                      Can this be one of the two full faired pulsars. . ? A 200ss. . ?

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]109788[/ATTACH]

                      The above said link is an old news which was published back in May 27 2013, so I suspect it a little. . . What are your views on this. . ?

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                      • #71
                        Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

                        Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                        right, sorry about that. . . As I was in a hurry looking at it, I just posted it without seeing much. . . N don you feel that GSXR fairing fits perfectly with the pulsars, as seen previoulsy on a guy who had moded his pulsar 220 with GIXXER kit. . .

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                        It looks seriously ugly.
                        Sorry about that. but No factory can make it this ugly.
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                        • #72
                          Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

                          Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
                          It looks seriously ugly.
                          Sorry about that. but No factory can make it this ugly.
                          how about the New Apache series in that case . . ?

                          PS: Just kidding. . .

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                          • #73
                            Re: Bajaj preparing 2 "Super Sports" motorcycles under the Pulsar Brand? P200 SS?

                            Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post
                            how about the New Apache series in that case . . ?

                            PS: Just kidding. . .

                            Cheers!!!
                            I didnt find it Ugly. Its ok design.
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                            • #74
                              re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

                              I believe good handling is very important in today's era, where bikes' engines are taking them to triple digit speeds in seconds. Its obvious they will be ridden fast. Had we all loved to cruise at 40, we would have got Stunner or Discover 125 ST, right?

                              Going slightly OT, I still believe that people are confused between "handling" and "agility". Few pages back, someone said R15 is better handler than N250R. Won't comment on that as I haven't ridden the 250R, but I think people do confuse agility as handling.


                              Agility is how fast it steers or responds to counter steering. Its mostly dependant on wheelbase, rake and trail of the bike.

                              Handling is how obedient the bike is. How much it remains under your control at high, or any speeds.
                              If its under your control, it will change lanes & directions well, it won't dictate your riding path, remain calm and composed mostly even while leaning and it will generally inspire confidence to push it harder and harder, be it track or road.


                              I myself ride a Pulsar. Bad handler? Yes! I just can't find the confidence to steer even a little bit after 110 kmph. It gets "Twitchy", and behaves as if a little steer will throw me on the road. Its not a bad chassis. Its just in a commuter oriented setup. Yes, it is still very agile within the city, noticeably more than Karizma. And it can't lean well too, same twitchyness shows. And the rake trail ain't too favorable either.

                              Although: I can't help but admit that riding an old rusted bike which has power but doesn't handle well. It has its own charm & appeal. Not every man can steer it above 110 kmph. I can, maybe a little bit.
                              On the other hand, the R15's are such sweet handlers that you might get a confident knee-down on your first try, that too on a public flyover...


                              Coming to the topic, for the newer Pulsars, I would expect the right balance of good agility and good handling, somewhat like the Duke 200, and more like Apache RTR 180...
                              But for us, there's practically no need to be "Track level crazy" about it. Even if Bajaj makes it anything like Pulsar 200 NS, then we shouldn't fear at all.
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                              • #75
                                re: Bajaj Pulsar's 2 Super Sport motorcycles: xBhp News

                                My point exactly. We dont need to be track junkie (which in reality most the Indians are not).

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