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  • xionite
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    Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

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    Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post
    why is every one so dissapointed?no body has even seen the real bike. why is every one so obsessed with looks?a true biker should be worried about how his bike performs and not how it looks. looks are secondary.
    Do you need to to "see" a Ducati Panigale in the flesh to know that it's a work of art?

    if you don't agree with me on the Panigale bit... just replace "Ducati Panigale" with "Heidi Klum/Scarlett Johansson" and i'm sure you'll get what i mean.

    The way a bike looks and sounds has a LOT to do with motorcycling.

    If an MV Agusta looked like a potato and sounded like chalk on a blackboard... do you think a whole bunch of people would care if it "performed" well?

    Sure, performance is important... but if you notice, i did not once judge the bike's performance. mainly because i haven't ridden it myself.

    granted even some of the specs look lackluster for a 250 in 2014 but...

    i'll leave my thoughts regarding it's performance until after i actually ride the bike. (you can literally SEE the honda-ish cost cutting in the design of the R25)

    but as far as what the bike looks like... photographs and video footage are more than enough for someone looking at the bike to judge what the bike looks like.

    P.S and if we're making blanket statements... then a "true" biker would also know that a R series bike from Yamaha shouldn't have tubular frame.

    and why in the world advertise the R25 as being a baby M1 huh?


    Originally posted by akhilmuraleedhar View Post
    after all we dont even see the bike when we are riding it.
    i can't see my face most of the time. but i'm still very particular about how i look.
    Last edited by xionite; 07-02-2014, 08:15 PM. Reason: typo

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  • aditya_YZF-R15
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    i wasn't talking about the bike's looks, which i think was clear from my post :-)

    when i said "yamaha pulled a honda", while that does hold for the looks as well, i was talking about the VFM mentality of honda (that they did with the CBRs) that yamaha seems to have done with R25 (in terms of conventional chassis, forks etc) despite initially (cleverly) advertising it as baby M1/etc giving everyone the impression that R25 was going to be some fairly new hi-fi kind of 250 technically..

    it can be taken for granted obviously that being a yamaha it will handle good enough at corners or anywhere else, despite not being deltabox chassis which has been a characteristic of yamaha's sportbikes for over 2 decades now..but being so late into the market i am just curious why the compromise.

    the 14000 redline is for me the only unexpectedly kickass thing that they have done with the bike..with peak output at 12000 the bike will rip and it's going to be a hell of a fun, no one's in doubt about that...the slight disappointment is not with its power or general handling..
    Last edited by aditya_YZF-R15; 07-02-2014, 08:39 PM.

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  • Sarvajit
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    +1 to that. Why bother about what you can't see! That's exactly why I stopped thinking about V2 once I knew there's no performance bump.

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  • akhilmuraleedhar
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    why is every one so dissapointed?no body has even seen the real bike. why is every one so obsessed with looks?a true biker should be worried about how his bike performs and not how it looks. looks are secondary. after all we dont even see the bike when we are riding it. power wise i dont think the bike is under powered judging by the dyno test videos. there is a limitation put on manufacturers by emissions norms for road bikes. its too early to say that the r25 is hondaish. we have no idea how it handles and performs compared to honda. just because it looks like a honda dosent make it a honda. the bike may have its own unique character and appeal. lets wait and see.

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  • xionite
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    Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
    you're not alone dude pretty much everyone expected R25 would be some path breaking kind of bike (that R15 was) in the 250 segment at least to some extent..and with that clever baby M1/rossi advertisement it made everyone expect so even more...and then in actuality they ended up doing a honda...
    ha! about a fraction of a second after i had seen that ad with Rossi introducing the R25 that looked like a baby M1 i was like... "Yamaha, TAKE MY MONEY!"

    and once the production R25 was revealed to the world, i actually felt like i had been cheated. my Rossi himself.

    (he has seriously got to sue yamaha for this deception.)

    the least that was expected from Yamaha was to make the R25 look somewhere as brilliant as the R125. or even like a beefier version of the R15.

    but no. they come up with this horrible Honda(ish) looking bike.

    sick to my stomach i tell you. third world design.
    Last edited by xionite; 07-02-2014, 09:10 PM.

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  • aditya_YZF-R15
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    Originally posted by incipient View Post
    Simple; this is a Ninja 250 competitor. What I can't understand is why they waited for so long. When Yamaha launched the R15 back in 2k8 it was a path breaker. The first true performance bike in India. The R15 along with the FZ with its radical styling changed the fortunes of the company in India. Honestly I had expected Yamaha to do something like that again.
    all true story indeed mate. but perhaps one would think yamaha would have thought a deltabox-ed R25 would have been a somewhat better competitor to ninja 250R...

    as has been felt by many of us as well from the first day, indeed R25 is exactly an upgraded ninja 250R (in which case, why so late in the market then indeed) in pretty much every aspect...no wonder it's only for less advanced markets...

    you're not alone dude pretty much everyone expected R25 would be some path breaking kind of bike (that R15 was) in the 250 segment at least to some extent..and with that clever baby M1/rossi advertisement it made everyone expect so even more...and then in actuality they ended up doing a honda...

    here's hoping as i have already said here a million times yamaha dont screw themselves in europe and the R3 there would be a proper R bike (because absolutely no one would buy just another upgraded ninja there) and soon enough they'll bring it to india as well.

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  • Backbencher
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    Looks promising and worth waiting for , with all the specs it offers . If priced around 2 lakhs then its gonna have a uuuhhh laaalaa in the Indian market .

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  • ArnabC
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    Originally posted by incipient View Post
    Simple; this is a Ninja 250 competitor. What I can't understand is why they waited for so long. When Yamaha launched the R15 back in 2k8 it was a path breaker. The first true performance bike in India. The R15 along with the FZ with its radical styling changed the fortunes of the company in India. Honestly I had expected Yamaha to do something like that again.
    Yes I agree the bike is around 4 years later. But what has happened can't be changed. So let's see what Yamaha has in store for us.

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  • incipient
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    Originally posted by aditya_YZF-R15 View Post
    i just find it weird and moreover something am curious about as to why they decided to do this..
    Simple; this is a Ninja 250 competitor. What I can't understand is why they waited for so long. When Yamaha launched the R15 back in 2k8 it was a path breaker. The first true performance bike in India. The R15 along with the FZ with its radical styling changed the fortunes of the company in India. Honestly I had expected Yamaha to do something like that again.

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  • aditya_YZF-R15
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    Originally posted by kuntalnag View Post
    Nevertheless, although the chassis is compromised (!!), hope the handling will not be.
    compromised wouldnt be the right word for it i suppose, it's just not what one expects from a R bike...tubular is just too conventional type..being a yamaha am sure it will handle swell for most purposes, but it's just weird that it's a yamaha R but not deltabox...apart from deltabox there are other less conventional and performance aimed chassis designs as well in theory, but instead they went for tubular..i just find it weird and moreover something am curious about as to why they decided to do this..

    anyways..they are the engineers and designers of the bike, they can do what they want.
    Last edited by aditya_YZF-R15; 07-01-2014, 10:35 PM.

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  • muztariq
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    Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
    If that's true, it's really good. Coz I read somewhere (maybe Motoroids) that Kurian stated no R25 this year.

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    Yes on the new fz launch he said that its coming in 2015's initial months. Its mentioned in the launch thread on this very forum.

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  • Srinivaas
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    Even during fz launch they didnt disclose anything about R25..

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  • Sarvajit
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    If that's true, it's really good. Coz I read somewhere (maybe Motoroids) that Kurian stated no R25 this year.

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  • Sid_dha_raj
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    Tere muh mein ghee shakkar

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  • ArnabC
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    Launch Alert !! R25 is scheduled to be launched by Sept end or Oct start. (Source is reliable as the person holds a good position at Yamaha India)

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