Re: Kawasaki will launch five high-end motorcycles in next two years: xBhp News

This one was hilarious

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Thats one heck-of a plan you have got there bud. Wish you good luck

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Well, I don't want to be too greedy. A litre class would be a dream within a dream no?

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Are you sure , is ZX-6R going to be CKD??. We havent seen any news about it being planned for CKD or any homologation process for CBU. I dont know what IKM is thinking now.
[MENTION=13161]tanay[/MENTION], your inputs here...You are only Zauba troller we know here

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a) ZX-6R cant be CBU, because of sub 800cc rules
b) Tanay can give his expertise only when there is an actual zx6r imported, which has net been the case
c) Tanay wasn't exactly accurate with his R3 guess, where, on the basis if Zauba data, he gueeses 2.5 Lakhs, to a max of 2.8, whereas the R3 was about 3.5. Not hating on him, just a word of caution that not everything he says can be taken as a gospel truth.
d) Daytona India 11.4 lakh ex-showroom. In UK the bike is priced at 10.8 lakh.
ZX6R UK = 9000 pounds = 905168.05 Rs.
India approx 10 lakhs.








Yes I do. A lakh less than Daytona. Which would leave us with a rather funny preposition.

Ducati 899 = 2 Cylinder = 13 Lakh ex
Daytona = 3 cylinder = 12 lakhs ex
Zx6R (with a hefty margin) = 4 cylinder = 11 lakhs ex

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Add to that the FZ09. There is a very strong chance it will be in India by mid next year.
Also I think ~10 lac OTR is possible.

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Correction: There is NO rule in India that Prohibits getting a bike which is less than 800 cc as a CBU.



Proof: BMW F650GS (798 cc), was brought in India as CBU by Navnit Motors.

BMW F650GS Review- Autocar India

BMW F650GS Review- Overdrive



The 800 cc rule just means that any 2 wheeler less than 800 cc (regardless of CBU/CKD) has to go through the Homologation process to be sold in India.

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Well there's nothing in the import data yet...(in fact Zauba has become rather boring nowadays, what with routine stuff being imported) so we're going to have to wait and watch. The ZX6R is not available in Thailand so it's not going to come from there which may mean higher prices than the Thai bikes comparatively.

Also, I look at Zauba and *speculate*. Sometimes it comes true, sometimes not. It is better than random comments like "Waiting for this bike to hit the showrooms + *insert even more random meme here*" anyway.

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I have no idea how they managed to do that, but I speculate that it was either by increasing the engine capacity by 2 cc(unlikely) or declaring that the bike was 800cc, and the ARAI didn't want to raise a hue and cry about it.

And I don't know what source you have of denying the assertion, but I rely on this Ministry of Commerce document.
Department of Commerce, Government of India

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Just go though your own link once again and read the title and contents properly:

"GOVERNMENT PERMITS IMPORT OF MOTORCYCLES OF 800CC ENGINE CAPACITY OR ABOVE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS"


It only states that any motorcycle 800 cc or above doesn't have to go through homologation process

(Thanks to the "Mangoes for Harleys Diplomacy".

Although it was due to Harley's efforts which led to this regulation in 2007, it was Yamaha India that was the first to take advantage of the regulation and launching the R1 and MT-01 in India a few months before the 2008 Auto Expo).


" In place of homologation, at the time of import, the importer has to submit:

a. Type Approval Certificate / COP of an international accredited agency from the country of origin along with notorized English translation of the certificate.

b. The Type Approval Certificate has to state that the vehicle complies with all the ECE regulations for the complete vehicle."



And yes, go easy on the speculations and conspiracy theories .

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I will (grudgingly) let you win this round, for the sole reason that I have no knowledge about why a 798cc bike was allowed as a CBU.

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Chill dude.. Its not about Winning / Losing.
Its the fact.

"THERE IS NO MIDDLE PATH"

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In case you are still not convinced .

"Kinetic does inform us they will bring all MV Agusta bikes, including the Brutale 800 (798 cc) to India imported in as a CBU for now"

Source - Autocar India: MV Agusta Brutale 800 Review | Bikes First Ride | Bikes 500cc-800cc | Autocar India

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So Autocar says they will be CBU. And Overdrive says that it will be homologated which will take time -
Link: 2015 MV Agusta Brutale 800 First Ride Review (India)

Also I looked up the F650 imports and they don't mention CKD -



SSSSoooo if we add them up then yes it seems that below 800cc bikes can come in as CBU but will need homologation.
Kawasaki can bring the ZX6R from Indonesia (Yamaha says the import duty rates from here are the same as from Thailand - for the R3) or some other SE-Asian country.

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The only reason why the Z800 is priced so low is because its its a Z750, with a bit more displacement/5ps more/5kg more and a bigger sprocket meant to compete with the FZ8 a long time ago.
Its more like how the Honda 250R is now a 286R(although called 300R) with a 20,000 premium over the previous model because the production line remains almost unchanged in large parts.
Its been manufactured since 2005 so Kawasaki's only concern is to moderate its pricing based on changes in raw material costs owing to inflation. Same goes for the N650 and the Z1000 = N1000 which has been around since 2005.
Look at the Ninja 300. All new product and well out of the price range compared to the international markets. Unlike the older models they have to retain their investments with these newer models hence the pricing is well beyond bounds.



The Daytona 675 is a CKD too but we all know how the pricing went from expected 6-7 lakhs to 12 lakhs.

The ZX6 much like the Daytona675 or the 600RR or the R6 will all come from their home country since they are flagship models. None of the manufacturers want to compromise on quality of their flagship models by moving production base outside UK/ Japan for these models. So there is no point of manufacturing ZX6R in Indonesia. The supersports and SBKs require pin point accuracy in manufacturing, a feat only possible with the precision manufacturing base in Japan and i don't see it being outsourced to other countries to save costs.