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**saikarthik** · 09-04-2016, 01:13 AM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Yes but then the factory roads cannot replicate the actual road conditions, right. Eventually, they have to bring it out of the factory for testing purposes in real time environment.. they don't have Leh Ladakh in their factory do they [emoji16]

Jokes apart. I hope they bring in good products for those looking for a 250cc

Exactly.. They run testing on actual road conditions too.. Any automobile company tests their products in accelerated durability cycle but on actual roads too. Depending on the bike's target market they design a test cycle with good roads, bad roads including highway traffic, but they use lights in day time to stimulate electrical loading in night condition as well..

**krishna77** · 09-04-2016, 08:59 AM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

It's good music to the ears!

Sent from my Xperia L.

**rreneav1987** · 09-04-2016, 09:18 AM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Exactly.. They run testing on actual road conditions too.. Any automobile company tests their products in accelerated durability cycle but on actual roads too. Depending on the bike's target market they design a test cycle with good roads, bad roads including highway traffic, but they use lights in day time to stimulate electrical loading in night condition as well..

I used to work in hero R&D till last yr.. But this is generic info, any one wld know..

Someone here knows something..

Now that you have mentioned you were part of R&D department of Hero. People are going to ask you lots of questions. Better remove that part if you want to avoid..

**pranav shet** · 09-04-2016, 02:26 PM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post

Someone here knows something..

Now that you have mentioned you were part of R&D department of Hero. People are going to ask you lots of questions. Better remove that part if you want to avoid..

Pawan munjal said that they would be launching all new achiever. I saw the video on YouTube. I think this bike will be based on new engine platform. He also added that i3s would be applied to super splendor& passion pro. Media made mess of this news. He never said that achiever will get i3s, instead said all new achiever would be launched.

**rreneav1987** · 09-04-2016, 02:28 PM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by pranav shet View Post

Pawan munjal said that they would be launching all new achiever. I saw the video on YouTube. I think this bike will be based on new engine platform. He also added that i3s would be applied to super splendor& passion pro. Media made mess of this news. He never said that achiever will get i3s, instead said all new achiever would be launched.

It will be a new engine developed by Hero. If they use the same engine which was developed by Honda, they will have to continue paying the loyalty bonus to Honda which isn't a little amount. Let us wait and see..

**pranav shet** · 09-04-2016, 02:33 PM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Exactly.. They run testing on actual road conditions too.. Any automobile company tests their products in accelerated durability cycle but on actual roads too. Depending on the bike's target market they design a test cycle with good roads, bad roads including highway traffic, but they use lights in day time to stimulate electrical loading in night condition as well..

I used to work in hero R&D till last yr.. But this is generic info, any one wld know..

How is the working environment at R&D dept in hero? Have they given free hand for new ideas? What is Markus braunsperger's style? Most important : How many new engine platforms is hero developing. Would be nice to hear from your end.
Waiting in anticipation for your reply.

**s1d** · 09-04-2016, 11:07 PM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

If I can recall my memory, HMSI only started motorcycle manufacturing in 2008 isn't it? The Stunner/Ignitor and Uni 150 came about in 2008? So its only been an 8 year journey for motorcycles in India for them?

The Unicorn was launched in 2005. It was their first motorcycle, even before the shine (if my memory serves me right.. shine came about in 2006). The rest of the bikes followed starting late 2008. So the first couple of years it was just the Uni and Shine (on the motorcycle front) on the roads. This was due to their agreement with Hero regarding not selling motorcycles in India for a predefined period since they were still in collaboration.

**Nithesh** · 09-05-2016, 02:07 AM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by s1d View Post

The Unicorn was launched in 2005. It was their first motorcycle, even before the shine (if my memory serves me right.. shine came about in 2006). The rest of the bikes followed starting late 2008. So the first couple of years it was just the Uni and Shine (on the motorcycle front) on the roads. This was due to their agreement with Hero regarding not selling motorcycles in India for a predefined period since they were still in collaboration.

Couldn't find any timeline for their product release on the net, not even on their website so had to rely on xbhp's ownership thread to see who owned those bikes in what year first. Forgot to check Wikipedia.

Its a bit baffling that Stunner was eventually phased out a few years ago after it ran its course and the numbers shrank but it has somewhat found new life as Ignitor for Hero in their sales charts. Old Stunner owners will have spares availability from Hero for a while I think.

**saikarthik** · 09-06-2016, 04:31 PM

Re: 3 New Bikes from Hero before Diwali!

Originally posted by pranav shet View Post

How is the working environment at R&D dept in hero? Have they given free hand for new ideas? What is Markus braunsperger's style? Most important : How many new engine platforms is hero developing. Would be nice to hear from your end.
Waiting in anticipation for your reply.

So many Questions!!!

It was getting better, like almost all Indian OEMs are transforming themselves to be competitive.
Ideas were welcome, but only those which are logical taken up.. too ambitious tech which doesn't make a business case will not see light anywhere except in may be companies like Ducati.

Not sure abt engine platforms, but they were working on few fuel efficient lower cc mills.. even if I knew it would be unethical to let it without company's consent.

And Markus is an motoGP enthusiast and have participated in international circuit racing, so you can imagine his style.. Nice guy, talks free even to a normal engineer if one has passion for bikes and racing. So got along well.

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