Re: CB300R confirmed for India?

I guess you missed the main point of the discussion, we are not fussing over the lack of Gear indicator, we all know experienced biker can live without it all day. If given an option I'll remove Gear indicator from my current bike to save weight.

But we are ranting and complaining about "Honda" here for not including one, for their chalega attitude, trying to find an algorithm and to come up with a reason why they din't include, what and how the Japanese engineering geniuses at Honda came to that conclusion while designing the bike.

Just like how they did it with the "engine kill switch" on all their commuter bikes, which has never got any valid explanation until now for it's absence.

I guess the same geniuses at Honda who gets to decide whether to put gear indicator, kill switch or not, decided to put "CB300R" into "Super Bikes" category on their website. A moment of silence for the CBR1000RR super-bike owners seeing this bike listed with their category bikes


Lets see what valid explanation and justification they come up with this time for the "Super bike" definition.

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Oh they do have a valid explanation: "Indians dont need it". We apparently dint need ABS until the gormint made it mandatory. We dont need USD forks because we cant afford the extra cost that it comes with. etc etc

Honda and all these manufacturers know us very well. INfact so well that they came to those conclusions without any survey or poll, thats how good they are!

And here we have honest and experienced members defending the Lackadaisical attitude of these manufacturers towards Indians.

However Since in the international market, the bike is the same without the GPI, I guess theres no Bias against indians, so its fine I guess.

/s

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The more I see it, the more I like it. I'm a Bajaj fan for the supreme ease of maintenance and spares. Plus Bajaj gives you power at affordable prices.
What attracts me towards this is - low weight, decent power, FI and fun in traffic bike.
I moved from Hyderabad to Pune and I currently own a P220. My highway rides have gone down to zilch and it is mostly cursing and travelling in city. This would be the most fun bike and being a naked, it should be super easy to maneuver.
I know there are 3 other options - 2019 Domi, Duke 250/300 and RE I650.
If this gives me the thrust of a 220, I'll go to the Honda showroom and get this baby home.

Re: CB300R confirmed for India?

Well put there! Our point has been made, nothing against this bike or any bike in particular though, but it's against the manufacturer.

BTW.
Doc, I just noticed that you have reached the 1000th post mark! Congrats
Here's for the next 1000

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We have the opposite spectrum of manufacturers - on one side it is Bajaj that gives us performance at super affordable prices and then there is Honda and to an extent Yamaha who charge biryani worth of money for a 5Star.

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I have developed a liking for this offering over the past 2 days. Will it be parked beside my other trusted Honda is to be seen.

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I have attached the link to the brochure for the CB300R from the Honda India website.
I hope this will clear all the confusion regarding the equipment of the upcoming bike.

It's funny they have this listed under superbikes [emoji23].

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they have listed this under superbikes hints that it will be priced high as well!

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Well they did say it will be priced below 2.5 lakhs ex-showroom.

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They did that probably because its a CKD

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Cool, guys did you notice the 2017 CBR650F has gone missing from the website and superbike section..

Are they planning to bring the new 2019 CB650R or CBR650R?

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I was actually looking for the 650 when I stumbled upon the cb300r on the website.

Hope they get both CB650R and CBR650R to us.

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And they aren't wrong. Unlike most social media keyboard warriors they have data to study what people will spend money on and what they won't.
Funny you should say the "gormint" forced manufacturers to add ABS. If i recall right the first bike to be sold in the country years with dual channel ABS 8 years ago was the CBR250R when no gormint order existed. The C-ABS model sold for a 30k premium. Yet most of their customers went for the base Bybre model in a 3:1 ratio at the very least.

The ones who paid 30k premium for Nissin brakes were happy while the Bybre brake customers kept wondering if they can swap to ABS model because of the stark braking differences.

As for getting same international model, well Yamaha sold us the same international R3 yet while other Asian countries averaged 1000 units a month, our keyboard warriors who asked Yamaha to bring the bike here after watching an R25 review failed to show up at the dealership. Yamaha took 1 year to just sell 1000 R3s. Yamaha India probably spent more money getting the R3 homologated at ARAI than they made in profits.

Then there is the hefty and ever increasing import taxes that manufacturers have to pay apart from having to pay factory workers at assembly lines which eventually get added to ex showroom prices.

Ask Suzuki how risky it is to launch a motorcycle here even if its made in China and sold for under 2 lakhs.

And people wonder why Japanese manufacturers charge a premium on imports?

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The first bike in India and Made in India to flaunt dual channel ABS was Apache RTR 180 in March 2011.
CBR is/was an international brand and there was absolutely no competition to CBR at that time.
The problem which most people see is - half hearted attempts and very low coverage pan India.
Honda wants to see CB300R via 22 dealers in the whole of India.
On the other spectrum, KTM brought full onslaught - Dukes 125/200/250/390 and RC 200/390.
Bajaj had Dominar and before that NS/AS/RS series based on Duke 200's engine.
R15 was super costly for it time too and it still is. There is a problem when manufacturer thinks they are doing us Indians a favour by launching their good bikes. Honda has been at the forefront of all of this. Costly from the get-go is not playing in their hands anymore. Competition offers much more at much less. Can't argue that one has to wait 8-10 years to get a bike that is made by God. Every bike has its plus and minus.
People will not wait for eternity for a performance bike just because it has a logo that is known worldwide.

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Adding to what Akash has said above,

"They have data to study what people will spend on"

I would really love to see what that data is and where they get it from.


You dint get my point and I am not sure if you have read this. https://auto.ndtv.com/news/yamaha-tw...y-2018-1740489

If you like being treated this way by a manufacturer, by all means enjoy it. Giving the example of a single bike that had dual channel ABS at a time where it had literally no competition is quite moot.


And your point here is?

Thats fine, the products will pick up the pace slowly but surely. By your logic, they shouldnt bring anything just because the people who asked for it to be bought here dont buy it.

Is India the only exception to that? iirc import duty was slashed from 30 to 25% last year for CKDs and 75 to 50% for CBUs isnt it? Am I missing something? please do let me know.

I dont know what this is about so would like more clarification on this.

People do?