A manufacturer that mainly concentrates on scooter and moped sale from the start has managed to bore out 20cc from an existing 180 which was bored out of a 160 which was bored out of a 150 which was a Suzuki to start with.
Do you really think TVS could have pulled it off by offering a BMW collaboration bike which has the plus of engineering but negative of price perception?

Combine all of their 160+180+200 cc bike sale numbers and it cannot even come close to a single bike from Bajaj - Pulsar 150's monthly sales figures.
TVS+BMW marriage was just on paper, they were living like flatmates.

KTM+Bajaj is actually a marriage where both are partners.

Bajaj sells around 800-1000 units of D390+Dominar and the offering is worth the price paid for.

You get slipper clutch, that superb console, ride-by-wire, bonkers engine, dual channel Bosch ABS and what not with D390 which looks like a fantastic proposition than the RR310.

TVS has a lot to do to build that image of performance bike.

So many pieces of information that might build an incorrect perception in the minds of a reader not wary with the automotive world brother!



TVS relied on Suzuki and Bajaj on KTM/Kawasaki. Both tinkered the engines over the years and made them their own.
Bajaj however has an advantage in after sales and spares.



P150 is a bread and butter bike. Let alone RR310, P150 sells more in a month than D400 in almost a year!
TVS+BMW is as much work as Bajaj+KTM, with a fewer holes in the engine head.



Again, with KTM/BMW mills, both BAL and TVS have done some tinkering to suit their respective offerings. Neither are bolt-on units.



Nobody disputes that. But if my usage/likings demands another bike, then D400 shouldn't be thrust upon me.



Neither of these are made by BAL. Braking is awesome on both and so are the ABS units. No wooden-ness. RR310 blows KTMs out in the lights department and that IMHO is more important than brakes.



TVS has 35 years in racing while BAL likens racetracks for amateurs.
Don't fall in that propaganda.

CB300R has hydraulic clutch in international version. But not sure whether they'll bring it to India due to cost cutting measures.

As per reports in Rushlane and Zigwheels, CB300R is going to be launched on 8 February. This is really fast. Waiting for price announcement.

https://www.rushlane.com/honda-cb300...-12293974.html

What're you smoking, bro?

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/...fications.html

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Hi, almost all modern clutch units are hydraulic. Honda simply denoting an obvious thing.

If you mean that Honda is providing a hydraulic clutch lever as stock, then from the official pictures we can say it's not present.

If you mean that Honda is providing a hydraulic clutch lever as stock, then from the official pictures we can say it's not present.

Hello sir, let me tell you something. The Apache 160 and 160 4v have the same bore×stroke of 62×52.9. That does not make them the same engine. They are entirely different motorcycles with differently built and tuned engines. The 160 4v is better than any other motorcycle in its segment in terms of performance, refinement, handling, hardware and whatever thing you may think of. It is the most refined motorcycle I've ridden till date. [I've ridden only single cylinder motorcycles] You can rev even till 10k RPM and yet feel only negligible vibrations.

Though the engine of the 200 shares the stroke dimension with the 180, it gets a counterbalancer and an oil cooler. It is the coolest and most refined 200cc available in India. The Apache 200 shares almost nothing with the older Apaches, unlike the Pulsars that share almost all components. Also, there is no need to disassemble the whole bike to just replace an air filter.

Before crying about the lack of power, just remember that the engine is not in it's peak state of tune. On a racetrack, the stock version of the Apache 200 can easily keep up with any other 200-250cc motorcycle despite being at a significant power deficit and having taller gear ratios. The track specific version just takes things a notch higher.

Coming to the numbers, Honda should not even launch the CB300R in India as its monthly sales figure will be less than 10% of that the Activas.

Coming to the RR310, it can achieve track times similar to that of an RC390, despite being at an almost 10bhp power disadvantage. The Apache 310 has no issues like coolant mixing with engine oil or the console malfunctioning/dying every now and then.

Those who look beyond the paper know very well what TVS is capable of.

Fyi the gixxer one make did a faster time than the Apache one make but again down to the rider.