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  • #16
    Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post
    well during my recent trip to mysore-bangalore,i could see many dicovers on the road

    even though bajaj has invested much much more in publicizing xcd but still to this day i can see discovers outnumbering (new) xcd's(new) in fsct i see more of xcd 125's than 135's

    on part of bajaj i see this is a clever strategy to cash in on existing brandname

    Yep, I too have seen quite a lot of Discovers in Bangalore and the NCR area as well.



    Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post
    well i do not see any reason as to why a 125 or a 135 discover owners would be angry,in fact they'd be happy

    most of the owners are normal commuters who'd be happy to see more and more of bikes of same name, reassuring there decision
    Right said, there are many customers who do not look for exclusivity but are more bothered about "Safety in Numbers" and an "established brand".



    Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
    It introduced first in Passion model not in HH bikes...by d way HH is not promoting it (the Electric Start) as first introduced...yaa they first introduced in classic CBZ (150 CC segment)..and then all other manufactures follow the same.
    Nope, my Classic CBZ did not have it in 1999.. it wasn't even available as an option back then.. was introduced a couple of years later.. after it was available on other 150 cc competition.



    Last edited by payeng; 07-07-2009, 08:11 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by inflammable
      Mind your words... Moderators will issue an infraction... How dared you to disgrace the Passion Pro by calling its starter motor as Electric Start... Its POWER START dear... new innovation from Hero Honda.. Such a great innovation that.. the Passion ad revolves around the Power Start.

      Its introduced for first time in India.. All the bikes had Electric Start... but Power Start has been unheard off.. before HH introduced it to world.

      Its a turbocharged starter motor with inbuilt intercooler and option of putting nitrous oxide.. to boost the performance of starter motor when the bike is not starting. The POWER START feature is so powerful.. that it itself will run the engine (& bike) even when you are out of fuel. Just imagine... Motor is so powerful.. that at the press of button.. it will provide power to crankshaft.. and Passion will vrommmm past even the Octavia 150 BHP RS.
      I know that we are all not very pleased with HH and we have a good laugh at it. After we have finished laughing here, I request you to please delete this post!
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      • #18
        Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
        Where could be the LPG cylinder on the bike..will biker need to carry it on there back
        This is happening in every other post.You seem to make a mockery of every single bike that is launched.Either you change your writing style or we will need to change our behaviour for you.
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        • #19
          Some googling gave out this link. Take a look....

          Google Image Result for http://indianbikers.co.cc/wp-content/gallery/bajaj-platina-lpg/dsc00546.jpg

          @veryhiphop: Take a look at the above link. Will give you the location of the LPG Tank. Hope that helps.......

          @MG: +1
          @all: Can someone confirm whether its the new LPG Platina?
          Last edited by ripper; 07-07-2009, 08:29 PM.

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          • #20
            Great Strategy!

            I don't know if this has occured to anyone here, but I think Bajaj have adopted a great strategy. They will now have captured both ends of the biking spectrum in India..
            'The Fastest Indian', & 'The Slowest Indian' (Discover-100)..
            The customer can choose what he wants to be among the above 2, plus a lot of other options thrown in between (read XCD135, Discover135, P150, P180)..

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rajasthan_royals View Post
              discover has much better brand image than XCD or Platina that gut to use Discover name and i think bike will look like previous discovers without that tank extension
              +1.

              Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post
              well during my recent trip to mysore-bangalore,i could see many dicovers on the road

              even though bajaj has invested much much more in publicizing xcd but still to this day i can see discovers outnumbering (new) xcd's(new) in fsct i see more of xcd 125's than 135's

              on part of bajaj i see this is a clever strategy to cash in on existing brandname

              well i do not see any reason as to why a 125 or a 135 discover owners would be angry,in fact they'd be happy

              most of the owners are normal commuters who'd be happy to see more and more of bikes of same name, reassuring there decision

              and regarding bajaj re-entering 100cc,i'm happy that at least there'd be some stiff competition to hero honda
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              Not all of them are commuters. Some of them are speed freaks and stunt freaks like me. With the amount of torque the more powerful Discover puts on the road,you could wheelie your way around.

              Originally posted by tibby View Post
              I don't know if this has occured to anyone here, but I think Bajaj have adopted a great strategy. They will now have captured both ends of the biking spectrum in India..
              'The Fastest Indian', & 'The Slowest Indian' (Discover-100)..
              The customer can choose what he wants to be among the above 2, plus a lot of other options thrown in between (read XCD135, Discover135, P150, P180)..
              Considering how the Discover 125 performs,I wouldnt be surprised if the Discover 100 is the fastest commuter.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                Where could be the LPG cylinder on the bike..will biker need to carry it on there back
                IIRC, It will have a 10 liter LPG tank and a 5 liter petrol tank.


                Hmm... let's see how this bike turns out to be.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rajasthan_royals View Post
                  discover has much better brand image than XCD or Platina that gut to use Discover name and i think bike will look like previous discovers without that tank extension
                  No doubt... at what cost? Jackie Chan lost his popularity in India
                  BTW, I see desperation on part of Bajaj, none of their models are selling well, Platina125/XCD125/XCD135/Disc135 are all no-sellers. Bajaj's only way is to launch new bikes and gain some numbers, this funda will no longer work as people are already confused b/w various models and their VFM quotient. The new Disc. may sell well initially, but no one can stop CD-Delux and it's siblings munching greater numbers with still more vigour !! According to me CD-Delux is the most valuable bike in India, right it's people's verdict, not just mine.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                    No doubt... at what cost? Jackie Chan lost his popularity in India
                    BTW, I see desperation on part of Bajaj, none of their models are selling well, Platina125/XCD125/XCD135/Disc135 are all no-sellers. Bajaj's only way is to launch new bikes and gain some numbers, this funda will no longer work as people are already confused b/w various models and their VFM quotient. The new Disc. may sell well initially, but no one can stop CD-Delux and it's siblings munching greater numbers with still more vigour !! According to me CD-Delux is the most valuable bike in India, right it's people's verdict, not just mine.
                    CD deluxe are things of the past ...
                    nowadays people alteast extend their budget at get a passion or a passion pro
                    platina , discover and xcd already are a competition to HH bikes
                    what made you say that they are not selling

                    i see much more discovers than passion , cd deluxe etc

                    and now suzuki zeus and heat also in competition
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      CD deluxe are things of the past ...
                      nowadays people alteast extend their budget at get a passion or a passion pro
                      platina , discover and xcd already are a competition to HH bikes
                      what made you say that they are not selling

                      i see much more discovers than passion , cd deluxe etc

                      and now suzuki zeus and heat also in competition
                      and platinas.. My respect for this work pony is increasing by the day.
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                      • #26
                        Unexpected move by Bajaj regarding the branding.Discover has a good brand name with the masses but i wonder whether it will click with the econo-commuters as Discover were known for smaller alternatives to Pulsar so the word 'performance' comes first into the mind.Repositioining it as a pure mileage bike will be interesting to watch!!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post
                          It introduced first in Passion model not in HH bikes...by d way HH is not promoting it as first introduced...yaa they first introduced in classic CBZ (150 CC segment)..and then all other manufactures follow the same.

                          My dear, there where two companies that introduces electric / Self Start prior to hero honda
                          its was Kinetic GF 125 (2001, http://www.kinetic2wheelers.com/show...f125/index.php) and then came Pulsar 180cc with electric start, and 150cc with optional electric start model (2001). Hero Honda CBZ got self start in 2004 (Hero Honda CBZ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
                          Last edited by viny; 07-08-2009, 12:51 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Without 100ccs Bajaj is selling close to 1 lakh 70 thousand bikes....

                            Last month Bajaj sold 48 thousand Pulsars, rest all were brands


                            Bajaj has a branding scheme..

                            Platina is the base brand, followed by XCD , followed by Discover, followed by Pulsar

                            Looking at this, discover would not be priced at rock bottom prices...!

                            But one point to be noted is..

                            When Bajaj used to sell 100ccs, Hero Honda sold month bikes in the range of 2-2.5 lakhs....
                            With Bajajs exit, Hero Honda now sells bikes in excess of 3.5 Lakhs per month.
                            Its obvious that HH has gained the most in terms of volumes

                            Lets see how does this product work out for Bajaj.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Devilpulsarian View Post
                              Without 100ccs Bajaj is selling close to 1 lakh 70 thousand bikes....

                              Last month Bajaj sold 48 thousand Pulsars, rest all were brands
                              Buddy, where did u get those figures from? Any website?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post
                                well i do not see any reason as to why a 125 or a 135 discover owners would be angry,in fact they'd be happy


                                commuters..feel bad since they care for money and Discover 100cc would surely be economical. it has to be a good city ride

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