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  • Originally posted by Prakrit Takkar View Post
    i just got two queries

    1. what is the fuel rating that should on the ninja
    2. Also if someone gets the bike is the ownership thread to be put up in the sbk section
    1. I discussed this here, and it seems from members' reply and US forums, that 91 octane should do fine ...

    2. Of course it will be. You see that Section's Name is "Superbikes and Imports". Obviously, Ninja is an "import" bike ...
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    • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
      DOT3 and DOT4 can be mixed together. But you will not get the boiling point of DOT4. which is 25 degrees C higher than DOT3 boiling point.
      Absolutely not. The exact chemical composition of various DOT3 and 4 fluids varies widely and there have been reports of adverse reactions causing extreme corrosion and complete breakdown of the fluid's molecular structure leading to total brake failure. At the very least, it could damage the seals and leak. And besides, why would you want to mix fluids. If switching to a different rated fluid, then switch properly. I'm just saying this because someone may decide to top up their DOT3 with 4 and then have problems.

      @gs

      while i see where you're going with this, having owned an rd myself, i would have to differ with you on the exclusivity bit. When someone buys a performance bike, it is for the thrill of riding and while it may be nice to be one of a few owners, it's even nicer to enjoy each ride. Even if it's on an 'underpowered' 4-stroke 250cc twin. And the 2nd thing is that while 3lakhs is out of the reach of many, myself included, it is pretty close to the international price making it a pretty decent deal considering india's rip-off mode on anything remotely high-end, be it computers, electronics or automobiles. The ninja at 3L is much more value for money than buying say, an R1 for 12lakhs which is more than double the international price. If you look at it realistically, then the obvious conclusion would be that buyers of cbu superbikes simply have no vlaue for money. no offence to any cbu owners here, but even if i had a few dozen lakhs simply lying around with nothing else to spend it on, i just WOULD NOT spend it on an exorbitantly priced bike and give half my money to the indian govt.for nothing!
      Last edited by julianpaul; 10-11-2009, 07:06 AM.

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      • Originally posted by ashes View Post
        its 11 oct' where is the ride report??
        Patience, my friend, patience. These things take time - I would expect it to be up around noon or so, not midnight, lol!
        Last edited by bluevolt; 10-11-2009, 08:05 AM.

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        • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
          while i see where you're going with this, having owned an rd myself, i would have to differ with you on the exclusivity bit. When someone buys a performance bike, it is for the thrill of riding and while it may be nice to be one of a few owners, it's even nicer to enjoy each ride. Even if it's on an 'underpowered' 4-stroke 250cc twin. And the 2nd thing is that while 3lakhs is out of the reach of many, myself included, it is pretty close to the international price making it a pretty decent deal considering india's rip-off mode on anything remotely high-end, be it computers, electronics or automobiles. The ninja at 3L is much more value for money than buying say, an R1 for 12lakhs which is more than double the international price. If you look at it realistically, then the obvious conclusion would be that buyers of cbu superbikes simply have no vlaue for money. no offence to any cbu owners here, but even if i had a few dozen lakhs simply lying around with nothing else to spend it on, i just WOULD NOT spend it on an exorbitantly priced bike and give half my money to the indian govt.for nothing!
          now we're talkin...............
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          • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
            now we're talkin...............
            Yeh!
            CBU buyers = Spare Money vs Value of Money!
            More the spare money lesser the value goes.

            P.S= no offence's plz.

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            • waiting for my 10am bday treat..

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              • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                Absolutely not. The exact chemical composition of various DOT3 and 4 fluids varies widely and there have been reports of adverse reactions causing extreme corrosion and complete breakdown of the fluid's molecular structure leading to total brake failure. At the very least, it could damage the seals and leak. And besides, why would you want to mix fluids. If switching to a different rated fluid, then switch properly. I'm just saying this because someone may decide to top up their DOT3 with 4 and then have problems.

                @gs

                while i see where you're going with this, having owned an rd myself, i would have to differ with you on the exclusivity bit. When someone buys a performance bike, it is for the thrill of riding and while it may be nice to be one of a few owners, it's even nicer to enjoy each ride. Even if it's on an 'underpowered' 4-stroke 250cc twin. And the 2nd thing is that while 3lakhs is out of the reach of many, myself included, it is pretty close to the international price making it a pretty decent deal considering india's rip-off mode on anything remotely high-end, be it computers, electronics or automobiles. The ninja at 3L is much more value for money than buying say, an R1 for 12lakhs which is more than double the international price. If you look at it realistically, then the obvious conclusion would be that buyers of cbu superbikes simply have no vlaue for money. no offence to any cbu owners here, but even if i had a few dozen lakhs simply lying around with nothing else to spend it on, i just WOULD NOT spend it on an exorbitantly priced bike and give half my money to the indian govt.for nothing!
                read my previous post half of the ppl atleast no this board would not even buy a Ninja simply cuz they can just talk and can't afford, most ppl parent would not allow. In India most ppl buy bike for style for no reason FZ and R15 have sold in huge numbers ask half of the guys off this board about why they bought FZ or R15 first thing will be "it looks good", i wonder how many enjoy thrill of riding on traffic jammed bad roads, most of it is for exclusivity to get heads turned. I agree with GS points.

                I totally agree on your point that why to give money to govt. May be govt want to post restriction on bike sale to safeguard own 2 wheeler market. I would rather wait for some indigenous 250cc so that it is more adapted to Indian conditions, or save up for exclusives like harley.

                As far as reviews are concerned from mag editors or testers its done on good tracks and good roads, also they get lot of money to do those review, till date i have not even seen bad review even for Bajaj 4S champion
                Last edited by Mindgrinder; 10-11-2009, 11:06 AM.
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                • Booking update for Ninja 250 in Pune

                  Hi , I went to the PBK showroom near Ruby Hall in Pune yesterday evening for information regarding booking and finance options for the Ninja 250. They provided with the following info:
                  - 10 Ninjas have already been booked in Pune
                  - PBK are not taking anymore bookings till the next lot of Ninjas arrive
                  - People in Pune will NOT be getting deliveries soon bcoz the bikes have still not been passed by Pune RTO due to Elections due on 13th Oct.
                  - Still no news of Finance options fm BAF, but most likely it would be Rs 70 K Downpayment and rest would be financed, still no news regarding the interest rate for the finance that would be provided .

                  Moral of the story: People like me waiting for buying the Ninja have to wait for atleast 2-3 months


                  GO FAST OR GO HOME !

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                  • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                    Absolutely not. The exact chemical composition of various DOT3 and 4 fluids varies widely and there have been reports of adverse reactions causing extreme corrosion and complete breakdown of the fluid's molecular structure leading to total brake failure. At the very least, it could damage the seals and leak. And besides, why would you want to mix fluids. If switching to a different rated fluid, then switch properly. I'm just saying this because someone may decide to top up their DOT3 with 4 and then have problems.
                    Do you have any links? AFAIK, only DOT 5 should not be mixed with DOT3, 4 or 5.1.
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                    • skimming through this thread it seems the main point of discussion is the price of the 250. i would suggest you guys check out the Kawasaki UK site the price they quote for the 250r is 3999pounds which when converted to rupees roughly translates to 2.95L i'd say we'r getting a pretty fair deal.

                      What i'm concerned about is the service backup Bajaj can offer the ninja. Being an owner of a 220Fi i've experienced first hand how shabby the probiking service backup is and if they can so splendidly mess up the service of a relatively simple bike like the 220 imagine what havoc they could wreak on the Kawasakis and the KTM's that are supposedly due our way
                      Last edited by jmjmec; 10-11-2009, 11:57 AM.

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                      • Rightly said mate

                        Originally posted by jmjmec View Post
                        skimming through this thread it seems the main point of discussion is the price of the 250. i would suggest you guys check out the Kawasaki UK site the price they quote for the 250r is 3999pounds which when converted to rupees roughly translates to 2.95L i'd say we'r getting a pretty fair deal.

                        What i'm concerned about is the service backup Bajaj can offer the ninja. Being an owner of a 220Fi i've experienced first hand how shabby the probiking service backup is and if they can so splendidly mess up the service of a relatively simple bike like the 220 imajine what havoc they could wreak on the Kawasakis and the KTM's that are supposedly due our way
                        After all the hype and excitement the Ninja 250 has created , our Hearts telling us just go and buy the bike, its wiser to look beyond the hype and listen to our Brain . Well there is no doubting the quality and engineering of the Ninja 250 , but hey its going to be FIRST time on Indian Roads and has to be serviced at PBK service outlets .
                        Since anyways there is going to be a delay in getting the bike , lets wait for some more time , let a ownership thread start here on Xbhp , so after 5-6 months from now we would have very clear picture about the Ninja and the service provided . In my Opinion dont rush and spend the hard earned 3 lac. Its wiser to wait and watch, and then make a decision
                        GO FAST OR GO HOME !

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                        • Originally posted by jmjmec View Post
                          skimming through this thread it seems the main point of discussion is the price of the 250. i would suggest you guys check out the Kawasaki UK site the price they quote for the 250r is 3999pounds which when converted to rupees roughly translates to 2.95L i'd say we'r getting a pretty fair deal.

                          What i'm concerned about is the service backup Bajaj can offer the ninja. Being an owner of a 220Fi i've experienced first hand how shabby the probiking service backup is and if they can so splendidly mess up the service of a relatively simple bike like the 220 imajine what havoc they could wreak on the Kawasakis and the KTM's that are supposedly due our way
                          whts in dollars? pounds is always costlier...
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                          • Where is the review ??

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                            • Where's the test ride report by sunny....waitin anxiously for it..
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                              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                                Do you have any links? AFAIK, only DOT 5 should not be mixed with DOT3, 4 or 5.1.
                                Links would be a bit of a pain to find, this is based on research i had done ages ago. You could check out Wikipedia for more info. Anyway, DOT5 being silicon based, is absolutely incompatible with the DOT3/4/5.1. Moving on, in theory, all glycol based fluids are compatible since they are part of the DOT specifications. That simply means that the same equipment can use EITHER 3/4 or 5.1. It does not mean that they should be mixed and used AT THE SAME TIME. As i said earlier, since various brands have different chemical compositions, it is not a good idea to mix fluid types. For example, expensive, high-performance race application DOT3 fluid would be much better than generic DOT4. So there are vast differences between these seemingly 'compatible' fluids.

                                Anyways, not to get too OT, i've noticed a huge difference in performance when i changed the red DOT3 brake fluid in my RTR FI to tvs-girling DOT4 and so i would wholeheartedly recommend all new NINJA owners to flush and change their brake fluid to a good quality DOT4 as soon as they get the bike. And please stay away from kbx DOT4. It's as bad (or worse) as their DOT3.

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