its aint liquid cooled...according to the brochure handed out at the launch to the guy who posted the pics,.its oil cooled only ... also he was the one who put the specs in orkut zma community and uploaded the 1st ever pics on the internet which now every other auto site has it.....it will be water marked as rohit sud on the pics....since the zma launch at the leela hotel has happened and is true...y cant the specs of the bike told by him be true???

All said, HH has done a pretty good job of upgrading it's 6 years old Zma, overall the styling will appeal to people (not to critics, no matter what!!). Zma has created strong brand value all these years in premium segment, it's gonna sell even if power bump is 0.01 bhp, b'cos PGMFi will add altogether different character to the already popular Zma !! The features added are good and it's just going to increase the value of the bike.

Because you start it every time. And the way you attack other brands will obviously make the "other brand" fans attack your favourite brand. So you are the one being cornered. And seriously... Bas bhi kar yaar! How many more new bike threads do you want to ruin this way?

so HH gives us a new faring which looks like it's been made using a cheap plastic welding and some serious dose of a "hathoda" by a roadside chap,they take GS150R's headlamp stretch it a bit and feviquicked it in front,then they beg HONDA to give them PGM-FI(which they'll charge atleast 10000 more cuz it has that PGM-FIwritten on fairing,remember the price diff between Stunner carbed and FI...) and they think they've gven some seriously new bike to the indian customers.....

when bajaj did it with 220 carbed there was a "ho halla" that oh what it did only swapping the FI with Carb but the shape is old nothin much but that F written on the fairing...

when bajaj upgraded its 220 he gave us a bike with more poke,better tyres and even slashed the price...

remember when HH slashed the price of KARIZMA years ago it provided us with the same bike tht now had KARIZMA wriiten with a 'sticker' on the tank and earlier it used to be some good lookin plastic or 3d logo...they saved some 100 bucks thr too......

but when HH does it with karizma just by adding a "kid designed fairing",a videogame type console, X-tremes splits with old YAMAHA FAZER type tail lamp,most of the people will end up "believing" what a new bike it is....

HH rules here.....and he'll charge 20 grand more for the shit it created and people will end up paying happily for the same engine that will create some 1 PS more.....

anyday the new 220 can f%#k the truckfull of ZMR and will be ready to do it again and again without even breakin in sweat.....

Flash news: Pawan Munjal committed suicide after reading this topic...

so HH gives us a new faring which looks like it's been made using a cheap plastic welding and some serious dose of a "hathoda" by a roadside chap,they take GS150R's headlamp stretch it a bit and feviquicked it in front,then they beg HONDA to give them PGM-FI(which they'll charge atleast 10000 more cuz it has that PGM-FIwritten on fairing,remember the price diff between Stunner carbed and FI...) and they think they've gven some seriously new bike to the indian customers.....

when bajaj did it with 220 carbed there was a "ho halla" that oh what it did only swapping the FI with Carb but the shape is old nothin much but that F written on the fairing...

when bajaj upgraded its 220 he gave us a bike with more poke,better tyres and even slashed the price...

remember when HH slashed the price of KARIZMA years ago it provided us with the same bike tht now had KARIZMA wriiten with a 'sticker' on the tank and earlier it used to be some good lookin plastic or 3d logo...they saved some 100 bucks thr too......

but when HH does it with karizma just by adding a "kid designed fairing",a videogame type console, X-tremes splits with old YAMAHA FAZER type tail lamp,most of the people will end up "believing" what a new bike it is....

HH rules here.....and he'll charge 20 grand more for the shit it created and people will end up paying happily for the same engine that will create some 1 PS more.....

anyday the new 220 can f%#k the truckfull of ZMR and will be ready to do it again and again without even breakin in sweat.....

May be true, But I adore your super vision

I am not really surprised seeing such kidding and immaturish replies here about the upgrapde. Most members here seem to find fault with every new bike / new upgrade , overlooking the good things.
Having ridden and thrashed the new Karizma, i can safely say it is indeed a step in the right direction. How can you guys miss the fairing, rear disc, better suspension, better rear lamp, fully digitial console et al? Just coz its almost got the same power or what? Dont miss out the FI, oil cooler and stuff. And obviously, dont judge the bike without riding it or better still, picking up our October issue

Peace!

Karizma ZMR coming in Black, Blue, Red & White... full fairing, fully digital console.... hmmm... FI but no Liquid cooling. Looks - killer. But some charm of the Old ZMA would be missed.

Those crying about power... remember, the power figures people specify are the peak ones... what matters is how leaner the power delivery is across the RPM range. We have seen enough examples recently that upset our expectations. Why all this noise about power without knowing the real specifications???

Also, why don't you guys let the scoop news providers live in peace. I believe every scoop news is correct in one way or the other. Making an automobile is not a multiple choice question paper where you select the perfect answer to get your marks. Companies develop and test numerous combinations. Only one of them hits the showrooms. People who've got scoop news would have got info from any of the model tested.

After all this, there was one guys who told clearly (before HH Hunk Launch) that HH is making a fully faired ZMA FI with the same engine, clip-ons and most components would belong to existing ZMA. Someone heated him up with a very intimidating argument and he was infracted. We've lost many such people from xBhp just because of these stupid arguments and erratic comments.

If we loose such contributors there won't be much credibility to the forum in the long run. People who know info would keep numb and we would be shooting in the dark.

I am not really surprised seeing such kidding and immaturish replies here about the upgrapde. Most members here seem to find fault with every new bike / new upgrade , overlooking the good things.
Having ridden and thrashed the new Karizma, i can safely say it is indeed a step in the right direction. How can you guys miss the fairing, rear disc, better suspension, better rear lamp, fully digitial console et al? Just coz its almost got the same power or what? Dont miss out the FI, oil cooler and stuff. And obviously, dont judge the bike without riding it or better still, picking up our October issue

Peace!