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  • Originally posted by sumit512 View Post
    P135 makes sense to me, not because of the figures or price but because of the new age technology. But I am sure this technology will very soon be replicated onto its higher brothers and then the bigger .. the merrier

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    Even i have the same view, now that the P135 is here, I would not buy a P150 given the choice between the two - the specs are pretty similar but P135 is 4s 4v and also u're paying more for p150
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    • Originally posted by udayrrr View Post
      p150 also makes sense to some others because its tried and tested(bajaj took nearly decade to perfect it and today any one can say its as reliable as some others)
      I agree with your point too. Its tried and tested. The latest P150 is much more refined than any of the previous ones.


      Do u guys think that sales of P150 be affected because of the new P135
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      • May be Bajaj has plans to wipe out Pulsar 150 if 135 becomes a success! Does anyone think so? The price difference being very less between 150 and 180, and 135 having a great reviews so far.. 150 would not make sense going forward!

        Pulsar 135, 180 and 220 would be great options for people to choose with more visible(looks)/spec differences between them!

        BTW, one of my friend got a new P150 today because he didnt like both 135 and 180.. When I asked him, what is that he doesnt like, his answer was the single gear lever(without the rear foot lever) hence opted P150!
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        • P135 Vs Y.Gladiator

          Can we compare the P135 with Y.Gladiator.

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          • Originally posted by men_in_jean View Post
            May be Bajaj has plans to wipe out Pulsar 150 if 135 becomes a success! Does anyone think so? The price difference being very less between 150 and 180, and 135 having a great reviews so far.. 150 would not make sense going forward!

            Pulsar 135, 180 and 220 would be great options for people to choose with more visible(looks)/spec differences between them!

            BTW, one of my friend got a new P150 today because he didnt like both 135 and 180..

            When I asked him, what is that he doesnt like, his answer was the single gear lever(without the rear foot lever) hence opted P150!




            Well, models continue to exist as long as there is a demand for them.. The P150 has been an evergreen model and continues to be so.

            The P135 will be a good option for someone with a sporty intent, who is on a budget and would like to be different.

            Originally posted by santhoshs View Post
            Can we compare the P135 with Y.Gladiator.
            Trust our auto mags to come out with a comparo.



            Last edited by payeng; 12-23-2009, 08:13 PM.

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            • Originally posted by dream horse View Post
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              • P135 wins zigwheels bike of the year

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                • Took a test ride of P135.

                  For those who think it may affect P150 sales, after the test ride, i'm sure No It won't happen!

                  Simply speaking, P135 doesn't give you the big bike feel, and compared to 150, it feels sluggish. But the +ve factors over 150 are:

                  (1) Absolutely feather light, I had actually had to check if I have the pillion in place or not. Especially comparing it 220, it felt like a relief in Bangalore's traffic.

                  (2) Better traffic carver, more agile.

                  (3) Smoother Engine, gear box, much more refined. At Idle 1K RPM, it's difficult to notice if the engine is on!!

                  (4) Seamless revving, a blip on right twist makes the RPM needle go berserk!

                  (5) And How can I forget, the awesome RVMS! I'm sure all P150/180/200 owners would like to install the 135s RVMs. The size, shape and field of view is par excellence.

                  At the same time, it's not a highway tool, nor meant to be. Pulsar 150, guess will not and should not shed weight. After riding a P150 UG4 and P135 I can safely say, both have their distinct advantage and will continue to sell seperately. Even when it comes to power and fun of riding.

                  BTW The On Road Price of P135 is 59K, and P150 is 68K.
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                  • One question, how is the top end engine performance compared to the P150? Is it sluggish at the top too?
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                    • Speaking from a technical point of view, the Bike should have better top end surge as compared against P150.

                      But still I am not so sure about it.Will try to test ride the bike over this weekend.

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                      • everyone who has had a test ride is complaining the bike being sluggish
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                        • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          Took a test ride of P135.
                          Same here.


                          Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          Simply speaking, P135 doesn't give you the big bike feel, and compared to 150, it feels sluggish.
                          Thats because, the real fun on this bike actually lies after 5000 rpm.



                          Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          But the +ve factors over 150 are:

                          (1) Absolutely feather light, I had actually had to check if I have the pillion in place or not. Especially comparing it 220, it felt like a relief in Bangalore's traffic.

                          (2) Better traffic carver, more agile.

                          (3) Smoother Engine, gear box, much more refined. At Idle 1K RPM, it's difficult to notice if the engine is on!!

                          Yep, agree with you. And may i add, the handling is very very sharp..!!



                          Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          (4) Seamless revving, a blip on right twist makes the RPM needle go berserk!
                          There, i told you didn't I..?? The fun lies in riding this bike like a sports bike and not like a typical commuter.



                          Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          At the same time, it's not a highway tool, nor meant to be. Pulsar 150, guess will not and should not shed weight. After riding a P150 UG4 and P135 I can safely say, both have their distinct advantage and will continue to sell seperately. Even when it comes to power and fun of riding.

                          BTW The On Road Price of P135 is 59K, and P150 is 68K.
                          A light bike does translate into a good "Power to Weight Ratio".. but some bit of extra weight does help in long distance ride by providing a stable ride..




                          Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                          everyone who has had a test ride is complaining the bike being sluggish
                          Its sluggish for the typical "desi" style of riding a bike.

                          T. Ishikawa ex- Yamaha India MD and currently chief advisor Bajaj Auto quite apty put it (during the P135 video review of Zigwheels) when he said that, Indians typically prefer "low end torque" (what Indian's typically say as Pick Up).. but internationally bikers like it when the torque is spread over a wider rev range and not just restricted to the low rpms. They enjoy taking the corners by controlling the throttle.

                          With traffic congested Indian roads, it is understandable why Indians like good low end torque. But those who like their bikes sporty would enjoy a flatter torque curve.



                          Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                          One question, how is the top end engine performance compared to the P150? Is it sluggish at the top too?
                          Apart from the compact and nimble feel of the P135LS, the "Torque" feel on both the bikes is the main difference between the P135LS (4V) and the P150.

                          The P150 has good torque at low rpms.. the torque on the P135LS on the other hand makes its presense felt only post 5000 rpm.

                          At high revs (around 8000-9000 rpm), torque on the P150 dips, making it feel run our of breath.. on the other hand the P135LS feels like on song even at those revs.

                          The P150 has a better initial torque but the torque on the P135LS is spread over a wider rev range.




                          Last edited by payeng; 12-24-2009, 11:32 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by payeng View Post
                            Apart from the compact and nimble feel of the P135LS, the "Torque" feel on both the bikes is the main difference between the P135LS (4V) and the P150.

                            The P150 has good torque at low rpms.. the torque on the P135LS on the other hand makes its presense felt only post 5000 rpm.

                            At high revs (around 8000-9000 rpm), torque on the P150 dips, making it feel run our of breath.. on the other hand the P135LS feels like on song even at those revs.

                            The P150 has a better initial torque but the torque on the P135LS is spread over a wider rev range.
                            Payeng, Have you already ridden the bike?

                            Is the lack of pull before 5k rpm as much apparent like the R15?

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                            • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              Payeng, Have you already ridden the bike?

                              Is the lack of pull before 5k rpm as much apparent like the R15?

                              Yep, got a test ride on this bike (with a good opprtunity to actually wring the throttle )..

                              The "pick up" at low speeds is not too bad.. The P135 can pull from speeds as low as 30 Kmph from the 5'th gear, but the built up of speeds is definitely not as fast as like the RTR 160.. just that it feels like a commuter bike at speeds below 5000 rpm.

                              The real fun lies post 5000 rpm.. the bike rolls on at a decent pace below 5000 rpm but once post it, the speed and the rpm needle keeps climbing on.



                              Last edited by payeng; 12-24-2009, 11:59 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                                One question, how is the top end engine performance compared to the P150? Is it sluggish at the top too?
                                I didn't get a chance to go past 6K RPM. But as I believe the top end performance, as Payeng said, should overshadow 150.

                                Originally posted by payeng View Post
                                Thats because, the real fun on this bike actually lies after 5000 rpm.



                                There, i told you didn't I..?? The fun lies in riding this bike like a sports bike and not like a typical commuter.


                                A light bike does translate into a good "Power to Weight Ratio".. but some bit of extra weight does help in long distance ride by providing a stable ride..


                                Didn't get a chance to rip the bike , but yes I could notice the power buildup even after 5K.

                                Sports is fine, but feels quite smaller for anything to be sports, but than so does any other 135CC bikes in the market.

                                Less weight, is definitely good for flickablity, but for people like me, (part tourers) it won't be much help.

                                Another point of discrimination, to help P150 carve it's place is the features. P135 doesn't have Self Cancelling indicators, and such gizmos. Speedo Console is not impressive, especially when it's taken off from XCD 135.

                                Switch gear is good, but some how lack the quality feel of P150/180/200/220.

                                P135 also has reverted back the kill switch. Ie: Reverse of other Pulsars, and in lieu with other bikes.
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