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  • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post

    Now, guys, would it be beneficial going for a DOHC setup in an engine with two spark plugs like the Bajaj's DTSi?

    My take (can be very amateur, please bear with me) - the centrally located spark plug advantage cannot be used in a DOHC 4 Valve engine as there would be no place for the second plug. In that case, the DOHC setup is just an extra expense. Wot u say?
    Actually p135 is the first of its kind to fuse "4vlaves" and "DTS" tech
    read that its too complicated to design!!

    U know II gen honda city that has i-DSi engine ie..dual spark...it had 8 valves(2 per cylinder)
    honda dropped dual spark tech in IIIgen city just to incorporate I-VTEC, DOHC and nevertheless to say 16 valves(4 per cylinder)
    ????
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    • @Payeng, thanks for the info, mate.

      @Hydbiker, @vulpine, interesting points about DTS-i and DOHC. So we may not see a DOHC on the Pulsar. But then, Bajaj can design it and term it as the first DTS-i-4valves-DOHC engine in the world
      Last edited by Obsessed; 12-11-2009, 04:55 PM.

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      • Okay, DOHC,SOHC AND DTS-I'ers, have u all noticed one cosmetic thing?
        There's some CD 100 type rear mud guard over the rear tyre, though its in fibre, but dont it add weirdness to the overall 'hot-cake' look? especially the 'R-6ish' tail was a welcome addition minus that Carbon fibre mud guard!!

        Shanz

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        • Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
          Kindly Grow up. This is India. We are developing, remember?

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          • Originally posted by Shanz View Post
            Okay, DOHC,SOHC AND DTS-I'ers, have u all noticed one cosmetic thing?
            There's some CD 100 type rear mud guard over the rear tyre, though its in fibre, but dont it add weirdness to the overall 'hot-cake' look? especially the 'R-6ish' tail was a welcome addition minus that Carbon fibre mud guard!!

            Shanz
            Yes ur Right - though it spoils the Look - it is an Must for the IndianBikes....have you seen the back of an R6 rider if he runs in an Muddy or watery Surface.....
            For to avoid that Bajaj has done this job - i would have welcomed it - if they would have provided a Transparent Mud Guard.....

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            • u wanna build anything , u build base first .

              Bajaj is no stupid .
              Its not stupid to spoil or bring a bad name or image to one of its trademark or flagship models or heritage or famous or blah blah ... models like P150 or P220 etc .
              Infact bringing out a test mule was absolutely right thing to do ,
              If there are lot of problems or not such a good bike as it sounds ,
              Wont affect their superior model , only pulsar 135 would be loser.
              Whereas if they did it to P150 n something went wrong , people will keep the same thing in mind for another 10 years like they have kept HH image as sooopaaar ... what to say ? , I am bored .

              Remember this is a new chassis and a new engine , the whole bike is new except the name pulsar . Thats some guts , if they succeed more money in pockets , if they fail which i feel does not stand much chance here all money goes in the air .

              Next why underestimate if some tech is used in low cc or power bikes .
              Once they successfully implement it in lower models , before we say they would plant it in superior models . The physical phenomenon remains the same .

              Alright guess enough .

              PS : wish the clutch is also new n properly designed to take power .
              Pulsar serious still lags in this area , look at the RTR or for that matter old RX ... can hold on much more power .
              Pulsar clutches i ve read give way when even slightly modified i.e., even under extra bit of power .
              Heard n Read so .
              May be wrong .
              Hope is a good thing ,
              may be the best of things and
              no good thing ever dies .

              Get busy living or get busy dying .

              - The Shawshank Redemption .

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              • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                My pop-corn goes on to the attic and I'm liking it. Thanks to everyone.
                Oye! I do not remember seeing popcorn in your house.

                BTW, thread is going great. I am liking the stuff.
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                • All this is because of a small detail that the Indian bike market IS a commuter market that literally hates and is scared of real bikes. Our Government treats better bikes as luxury. I did not want to hurt your feelings. It was just a sarcastic remark.
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                  • personal opinion

                    Here I see more critics than appreciators.
                    I just went thru the thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/109...-launched.htmlHonda’s global bikes may ride on Indian parts | ******** | Indian Automobile Blog | Car Reviews | Bike Reviews | Test Drive Reports | Pictures | Videos

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                    • ^^^ Honda = Stands for high quality engines all over the world over decades and they carry the legacy in India too. They are able to meet the average customer's expectations in India too. People are not liking Honda because it is a foreign manufacturer. FYI, the 110 cc engine on CB Twister is not decades old technology. It is a new engine.

                      There is a healthy discussion going on the technology part in P135. Please do not divert it.

                      Disclamier: Praising Honda does not mean I am criticizing Bajaj.
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                      • Kool down Vijay. This is just a test bike. All the feedbacks from this bike will be put in to the flag ship models. It will take time. You cannot try to swim in a single day. 135 segment is fast growing in to a commuter segment and hence more 135ls will sell. More the bikes, more will be the feedback and data accquistion.

                        Dont compare Flame in to this. I have never seen any where like six bikes go kaupt within an hour of practise session in MMST.It was one pathetic bike.

                        Stop cribbing and wait. Am actually happy that Bajaj is in the right direction. Engine as a stressed member. i Just want to take this baby for a spin in track and check how this kid handles. If this tech is a success(in LS), then you can see it one other Pulsars as well.

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                        • Originally posted by Obsessed View Post
                          @Hydbiker, @vulpine, interesting points about DTS-i and DOHC. So we may not see a DOHC on the Pulsar. But then, Bajaj can design it and term it as the first DTS-i-4valves-DOHC engine in the world
                          Who knows? All other engine designers might wake up to their unplesant surprise one day

                          Originally posted by vulpine View Post
                          Actually p135 is the first of its kind to fuse "4vlaves" and "DTS" tech
                          read that its too complicated to design!!
                          Not complicated. Just not tried. Get DOHC into this, that makes it complicated.

                          U know II gen honda city that has i-DSi engine ie..dual spark...it had 8 valves(2 per cylinder)
                          honda dropped dual spark tech in IIIgen city just to incorporate I-VTEC, DOHC and nevertheless to say 16 valves(4 per cylinder)
                          Had that on back of my mind when I was typing that message. Wanted to discuss that but might become OT.

                          Originally posted by Thunder View Post
                          i would have welcomed it - if they would have provided a Transparent Mud Guard.....
                          That is Innovation. Now, transperant to what? The bike, the tyre, the mud/dirt?

                          Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                          Remember this is a new chassis and a new engine , the whole bike is new except the name pulsar .
                          Nope. Engine is new in a way. Even if it was a Disco's engine tweaked for 4 valves, I'd give full marks to it here. Chassis is tested in the XCD's and Platina. Rest of the bike - rear panels tested in the XCD 135. Front design tested in the HH Hunk

                          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          Oye! I do not remember seeing popcorn in your house.
                          Looks like you didn't peek into the store room. As such, with so much pop-corn stuff on xBhp, all the corn that is popped is used up instantly.

                          Originally posted by santhoshs View Post
                          Here I see more critics than appreciators.
                          I just went thru the thread http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/109...-launched.html
                          That is in your mind than anything else. Read both the threads again, count appreciations and criticisms. Match them to the reality and I guess we need not speak again about that. Your conclusion depends on whether it is YOUR mind acting up or it is the reality.

                          As a customer I'd first look at the value I get for my money. ("Value for money" is the most subjective thing under the Sun). Only then comes the question of Desi or pardesi brand.

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                          • Originally posted by Thunder View Post
                            Yes ur Right - though it spoils the Look - it is an Must for the IndianBikes....have you seen the back of an R6 rider if he runs in an Muddy or watery Surface.....
                            For to avoid that Bajaj has done this job - i would have welcomed it - if they would have provided a Transparent Mud Guard.....
                            It would have been better to provide the mud flap (watewer we call it, I meant the thing which sticks close to tyre and is attached to swingarm to protect dust or mud,is it a tyre hugger!) which is already being stocked on other PULSARS, just angle it a bit backward.
                            But installing a CD-100 look is out of question!!

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                            • Congratulations Bajaj..!!

                              Wonderful job done by Bajaj Auto!
                              The bike looks quite practical to me. Another runaway success for Bajaj. It can even outrun the sales of other bikes in the same segment quickly and can sustain. The only thing to keep in the pathetic service of Bajaj.
                              The biggest leap for Bajaj is dumping the horrible cradle chasis and designing a new chasis with engine as stressed member in it. Next the 4 Valve DTS-i Engine. The bike looks quite sturdy, modern and has some Machoness in it. Definitely Male!!
                              The bike is cool with all the new features. Full DC electricals, Tachometer & Digital Fuel Gauge. Has ample power. 13.5 PS at 9k..!!
                              The rear fender looks the R6 inspired. However the tyre hugger looks pathetic to me. The bike would look awesome naked.
                              Another winner from Bajaj stable after P220 DTS-i.

                              PS- Iam thinking of the rear fender already. Also if the chasis is better, would try to fit a P220 engine in it.
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                              • so many replies...K,agreed the design is not to everyones taste(looking at the replies),but can't really complain about the engine until you test ride it.
                                Bajaj has always taken the first step to bring out any feature and the competition always follows...for that,I respect the company.Being an Indian manufacturer,it is doing pretty well to stand up the jap biggies...they might have borrowed cues from other bikes but cmon guys,I don't think the product is that bad...
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