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**sheelpriye** · 12-10-2009, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by bprags View Post

Oh oh Zigwheels is at it again. Take whatever Zigwheels mentions with a pinch of salt

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Adil & Bajaj combo has always rocked....http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/images/smilies/tongue.gif

**veryhiphop** · 12-10-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by ksameer View Post

going by the test reports, P135 is better than many 150cc bikes in terms of performance. And its almost 10k cheaper.

Does this mean P150 will be shut-off...in an upcoming year...

**payeng** · 12-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by veryhiphop View Post

Does this mean P150 will be shut-off...in an upcoming year...

And kill its Goose which lays golden eggs..?? Highly Unlikely I'd say.

Moreover with 8 years of legacy behind it, the Pulsar 150 DTSi is a formidable brand to be budged from the "aam janata's" mind... even for the younger P135LS.

**Devilpulsarian** · 12-10-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

And kill its Goose which lays golden eggs..?? Highly Unlikely I'd say.

Moreover with 8 years of legacy behind it, the Pulsar 150 DTSi is a formidable brand to be budged from the "aam janata's" mind... even for the younger P135LS.

+1000

Pulsar 150 is the bike which has made Bajaj what it is currently...

Bajaj would keep upgrading it.
Yups it might discontinue the Discover 135 at a later date since it is selling in pretty hefty numbers currently.

**Andante** · 12-10-2009, 05:59 PM

The thing that will happen most likely is the upscaling of the engine from this bike to 150cc and eventually above. It would make sense, since they any way have to modernize their bikes in the near future due to new emissions norms etc.

**pali** · 12-10-2009, 06:28 PM

ok for a complete review and a road test of pulsar135 watch 'zigwheels' on times now today at 730pm..

**dream horse** · 12-10-2009, 09:50 PM

one more bike again with a multi valve engine..............

1st lml 3V 100~110

2nd kinetic 4V 125~165

3rd TVS 3V with the first twin spark

4th yamaha 4V 150

5th kawa 250 4V 250

now last but not least a 4V twin spark 135 bike from bajaj

i really ashamed that all the tech is ruined in this lil garbage can's

y can't this can be applied for bigger bikes...........this is rellay pitty

quality is tossed, every one another is tossed in the same of cost cutting & in the name of 'TECHNOLOY'

bad bad bad.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

**dream horse** · 12-10-2009, 09:58 PM

to put pepper & salt bajaj filed a case on TVS for using 2 plug in their produts

bajaj got afraid that TVS may eat their pie in a jiffy way & now they r saying that their bike is the first & only bike with this set up in a interview

this is relly relic..................

but atlast bajaj learned that they can't take by law hence they have intro a cheap & pukka product

i don't complian the effort by them.............but did a common asked a 4V in a puny bike...... has they offered we brought it............ but the media said this one lacks this & that hence we too demand more even a tacho in 110cc bike........

see the way the things changed...................

**HydBiker** · 12-10-2009, 10:33 PM

^^ he he... itna sa bike ke liye itna bus hai! leave it now.

**ravi@17bhp** · 12-10-2009, 11:32 PM

**vulpine** · 12-11-2009, 12:23 AM

Though this bike is getting some good reviews(zig wheels,BSM), How I wish it shud have been a pulsar 150 sporting this 4 valve tech for the first.
it shud have made segment leading 14.5ps

I still dont like the fact that they have degraded the pulsar brand

Bigger pulsars are on the way. I read in news paper that they are working on bigger pulsars (up to 400 cc

)
bring 'em on BAJAJ
cross that damn!! 223 barrier.......

**Vaibhav Saigal** · 12-11-2009, 12:28 AM

Originally posted by vulpine View Post

Bigger pulsars are on the way. I read in news paper that they are working on bigger pulsars (up to 400 cc

)
bring 'em on BAJAJ
cross that damn!! 223 barrier.......

this is just a rumour,mr. rajiv bajaj mentioned in an interview that there won't b any bigger capacity pulsar after 220.........

**Bibhu** · 12-11-2009, 01:49 AM

Originally posted by dream horse View Post

one more bike again with a multi valve engine..............

1st lml 3V 100~110

2nd kinetic 4V 125~165

3rd TVS 3V with the first twin spark

4th yamaha 4V 150

5th kawa 250 4V 250

now last but not least a 4V twin spark 135 bike from bajaj

i really ashamed that all the tech is ruined in this lil garbage can's

y can't this can be applied for bigger bikes...........this is rellay pitty

quality is tossed, every one another is tossed in the same of cost cutting & in the name of 'TECHNOLOY'

bad bad bad.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Originally posted by dream horse View Post

to put pepper & salt bajaj filed a case on TVS for using 2 plug in their produts

bajaj got afraid that TVS may eat their pie in a jiffy way & now they r saying that their bike is the first & only bike with this set up in a interview

this is relly relic..................

but atlast bajaj learned that they can't take by law hence they have intro a cheap & pukka product

i don't complian the effort by them.............but did a common asked a 4V in a puny bike...... has they offered we brought it............ but the media said this one lacks this & that hence we too demand more even a tacho in 110cc bike........

see the way the things changed...................

Kindly Grow up. This is India. We are developing, remember?

Originally posted by vulpine View Post

Though this bike is getting some good reviews(zig wheels,BSM), How I wish it shud have been a pulsar 150 sporting this 4 valve tech for the first.
it shud have made segment leading 14.5ps

I still dont like the fact that they have degraded the pulsar brand

Bigger pulsars are on the way. I read in news paper that they are working on bigger pulsars (up to 400 cc

)
bring 'em on BAJAJ
cross that damn!! 223 barrier.......

According to people at Bajaj, No bigger than a 250 cc single should be expected. Though there was a mention about a 400 cc twin from stars ahed team, when the classic was launched, there seems to be no trace of it now.

**kk_RTR** · 12-11-2009, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by dream horse View Post

one more bike again with a multi valve engine..............

1st lml 3V 100~110

2nd kinetic 4V 125~165

3rd TVS 3V with the first twin spark

4th yamaha 4V 150

5th kawa 250 4V 250

now last but not least a 4V twin spark 135 bike from bajaj

i really ashamed that all the tech is ruined in this lil garbage can's

y can't this can be applied for bigger bikes...........this is rellay pitty

quality is tossed, every one another is tossed in the same of cost cutting & in the name of 'TECHNOLOY'

bad bad bad.................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

A few Japanese giants have even smaller trash cans (50 cc engines) with 4 valves n on top of it, they have Liquid Cooling....
I never saw anybody using the same words for them, then why with the Indian Manufacturers ?????

**noel046** · 12-11-2009, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Ah..!! That's a SWEEPING statement..

Even the YZF R1/R6's, CBR1000RR/600RR's, GSX-R1000/R600's, Ninja ZX-10R/6R's of the world uses the same GIMMICKY 4 Valve thingy on their cylinder heads.

We were actually expecting a 10 bhp bike here.. a few sites/blogs even speculated about it. But I guess more is less..

Better take the P135 LS for a spin when you get the chance.. that would clear our doubts better.

The CBF 125 is the international name for our 125 CBF Stunner. And we all know that its not actually a "pure performance bike" (and its already been "made and being sold" and "not in the making").. its basically a commuter bike.. Heck, even the Ninja 250R basically is a commuter/beginner bike.

Dude... Those blogs n news was a speculation as we were expecting a mileage mill on lines of XCD but they or we never knew about this new engine... So 10 Bhp was then Justifiable...

Mate as You refer to those YZF's, CBR's, GSX's, Ninja's compare their power to weight ratios with that of P135.. U will come to know why I felt it a gimmick...

Dude i was refering to CBF125R not the stunner one

Originally posted by Bibhu View Post

Dude, For 100 cc bike the Adreno and energy were screamers and produced

more power than all other 100 cc 4t bikes of that time. They were mighty fun to ride also.

For the record valves alone don't increase power, total engine design does. What 4 valves

will do however is make the engine much more free revving than a 2 valve engine. I

sincierly suggest you get facts before making statements like 'It's purely a gimmick'. You

are not expressing your thoughts like this, you are making a hard statement.

Adding new stickers and a engine guard and calling it a new bike is a gimmick. Creating a

new engine is not.

Mate... Yes you are right... Adreno and Energy were screamers but when You compare with those age bikes... Similarly when You compare P135 as it is launched as Performance bike and not a mileage churning bike... So we can expect much more...

Dude... Don;t be confused...

This engine has 2inlet valves if i'm right... And in such case it has approx twice or atleast the area available at inlet will be more than a single inlet valve hence the amount of fuel intake too will be proportionally high compared to single valve... So if we go through basics at least theoretically it has to deliver much better power and torque numbers when compared to 2valve engines with similar displacements...

Hence I felt it as gimmick (even a 2valve Discover too produces very close power and torque figures though it is has mileage mill) as I was expecting for lot more performance boost... I have been through facts before my write up...

Personally I'm a big Pulsar fan...

Even a 2valve engine can be rev friendly(read other pulsar or TVS RTR) though as you said even engine design matters...

Dude to compare(I know its not a perfect comparison) CBF125R ( don't confuse with CBF 125 Stunner)produces just 13BHP(which is even less than discover and its a 2V engine) It is very rev friendly and much faster and great performer than P135... Now this is Engine design... Hence I referred those 4V concept as gimmick... Bajaj could have done much better Job...

I did not mean to make a hard statement intentionally instead it was my disappointment...

Sorry that I knowingly or unknowingly hurt any Biker here...and similarly I request to respect others feelings than just rubbish it off without understanding...
Hope I have made it clear... Any suggestions are welcome...

Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post

I was referring to CBF 125 stunner. If your statement, was meant

for some other bike then it's fine my apologies for the confusion.

But if yes you were referring to Stunner, and really meant "CBF125 is a pure performance

bike in its making and is pretty successful world wide too... A commuter bike can never be

a competition to performance bike..."

Then I can only

Just for the Comparo:

The topmost CBF 125's specs (Fuel Injected, Disc)
Price: 72+K
CC: 124.7
Ps: 11.76
FE: 66Kmpl
Top Whack: 100.8
Engine Type: Air-cooled 4-stroke 2-valve

Vs Pulsar 135 (Carb, Disc)
Price: 51+K (assumption)
CC:135
Ps: 13
Top Whack: 112 Kmph
Engine Type: Air Cooled 4 Stroke 4- Valve

As rightly said by you, you can't compare ZMA and Ninja 250..

Seems to be a small misunderstanding...

( thats ok dude no need apologies

) I was speaking about CBF125R

Honda CBR125R :
Engine: a/c, 2v single, SOHC
Displacement: 124.7cc
Bore x Stroke: 58 x 47.2mm
Compression: 11:1
Carburation: 28mm VK carburettor
Gearbox: Six-speed, chain
Power: 13bhp @ 10,000rpm (claimed)
Torque: 8lbf ft @ 8,250rpm (claimed)
Cycle Parts :
Chassis: Steel tube twin spar
Suspension: (F) 31mm telescopic forks (R) monoshock
Brakes: (F)276mm disc, dual-piston caliper (R) 220mm disc, single-piston caliper
Wheels/Tyres: Cast aluminium/IRC (F) 80/90 17 (R) 100/80 17
Rake/Trail: 25 degrees/88mm
Wheelbase: 1,294mm
Fuel capacity: 10 litres
Dry weight: 115kg

In its making... I meant when in its design stage

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