Firstly your "disgust " and your caustic comments shows that you definitely are a Kwaker fanboy..
Secondly did i ever say R15 isn't a learners bike....yes you are right "both" are learner's bike. In fact the point which i wanted to make was ..let me rephrase" IF YOU WANT AN UPGRADE WAIT FOR A BETTER OPTION NINJA 250 ISN't WORTH IT"... Do you understand this time arround??

And what do you mean by "Indian context". Do you think Indians deserve substandard products?? We are the largest consumer of bikes in the world...our Super bike sale figures are so impressive that we are the HOT bed for their market now. People over here have the capacity and the mentality to pay 2 times the price to get these niche products.....If you think contrary..Go back to your cave.

Your statement "just so u know yamaha is known to make much better bikes overall but they aren't half as hardcore bikes as kwackers barring maybe the 98 and 99 r1" Just wanna say HAHAhahahahahahahaha...

"T135"...YES!!!! you are wrong..Are you aware of the engine specs even??? R15 is generations ahead of T135...Even if you would have said Yamaha Vixion i would have understood..It's as much derived from T135 as ZMR engine from splendor's...Hmmm bikes are derived from bicycles huh?? true but irrelevant.


I am not being loyal to Yamaha; just saying that they have a better offering right now....Kapeesh ??

PEACE OUT

Last time, I checked, xbhp was a free forum. One just has to have an internet connection available at Rs. 20/- for an hour.

ZMA, ZMR, FZ, P-...... and what not, are dressed up models only for many people in this country.

Of course, for some, it is a way of satisfying recently acquired passion for bikes. It is completely subjective.

Point is: R-15 can be a much more potent bike with a bigger engine (for its intended audience) but with the same level of technology and cycle parts and at a reasonable price. The only casualty will be FE.



Was there any recent threat of a Maha-tsunami in the pacific ocean on the TV, which I missed?

i've one request to TVS guys, stop making bikes in the segments with seperates each one by mere 20cc's , dont go after the trend BAJAJ started, 160,180,200,220...i mean what the Fcuk....

why not have segments-160 and 250 that's it, jump in the 20cc's and 1.5ps gives nothing and still they invest bucks in the R&D to improvise on the "new" bikes having just 20cc's more and them brim it with gizmo's klike ABS and all....

please guys launch a proper "bike" with 250 cc's and load it up with your ABS,MONOSHOCK,LIQUID COOLING and stop imitating the segments created by BAJAJ...

what these manufacturers end with, launching 4 bikes with same shape seperated by 20cc's and broad tyres....(BAJAJ pulsar series, RTR 160,180)

Crap....cut it and move on....

No more trolling please....!
TOPIC: The YAMAHA STALL!

^^ So true. Increment like +50CC. Or follow RE (350, 500).

IMO The best way to see the expo is online , there is no need to be a part of the madness. I have a few pics from the expo , will share soon.

and please, please, please... we need a good chassis before ABS!

What are u talking about?
R15 not even matching R125 standard's?
Seriously, i read it right?
what standard's we're talking about, LOOK's, Styling or anything which peppers the eye?
if its the looks depot. then I hav nothing to say because people fail to understand that at 1.1 Lakh rupee you can-not juice all those look guddie's which alonr cost huge buck's!
Dude, visit the R15 ownership thread for once, pages and ethic's had been written there on the fact that R125 had been created only due to 125cc Initial rider rectriction in developed countrie's plus a 125cc not-so-punk engine!!
so it's useless to compare a "looking-hot, working-not 125cc" vs a "Racing replica" and if we're talking about CBR150 vs R15, lets get a On road review's if ewer the former come's here rather than speculating and cribbing!
On one hand we talk about made for India product and on other hand we crib the same product comparing it with something which never saw India daylight?
CBR150 was made-not for India, rather it was made for those who have money in hand much to buy R1's or Fireblade's but are restricted to 150cc's ddue to the age limit,so companie's did their best to provide ttat Superbike feel under that puny chasis charging anyrhing and everything from customer's, but R15 is a diffrent case, it had been made to taste like a Premium Indian bike which can dust any Indian bike plus churn's 40-45 kmpl, why? because we're mileage freak Indian.And Yes! i am not talking about Vixion's here..
what it takes to make this same bike 22-25 Bhp's, Shove some Asthetically pleasing look's and give it a price tag of 2lAKH'S, would we still buy it?
No? So it's okay to compare but not at injustifiable rate's.

Shanz