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since when is Ducati about sharp lines?

the tail on the new 1198 looks like a dime a dozen Jap i4.

take away the Ducati logo... the bike has virtually no character of it's own.

i won't even talk about the fugly exhaust.

it may be tech laden.

visually... disgusting!


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Guys, this would be the face of the Ducati 1199:



Italian magazine Motociclismo has scooped images of the new Ducati 1199 superbike according to a story on the website. The full story will be out later this week in Italy.

It appears studio images of the new Ducati 1199 superbike have been leaked months ahead of the public launch of the bike in November at the Milan motorcycle show.

The image, covered with a watermark of the magazine, shows the face of the new 185bhp V-twin superbike which MCN caught testing on track at Mugello in Italy twice in the past month. The most recent test saw former World Superbike champion Troy Bayliss riding the bike.

Motociclismo claim the bike will be called Xtreme which flies in the face of MCN insider information which says this isn’t the case and it will almost certainly be called 1199.

One source told MCN: "The XTreme name was something that was used within Ducati. It’s not the name of the bike which is almost definitely going to be 1199."


Source: Face of Ducati 1199 superbike revealed - | Motorbike reviews | Latest Bike Videos | MCN

@csajal: You're the man buddy!

@xionite: Agree with you on the design front. nothing except the logo and the colour depicts anything about the true Ducati character.

Exhaust copied from Ninja 650En. This is slightly unexpected change from a company whose designer are known across the world for turning aggression and emotions into machines on two wheels.

Moreover, the good thing is that the design and the specs are out so that we don't have to run into wild guesses and assumptions. Specifications indicates that this is no joke and serious threat to BMW's throne.

since when is ducati not about sharp lines??
tell me one jap i4 which has a tail section as gorgeous as the 1198 (present), if u were refering to the spy shot pictures , hang tight and wait till u see the bike in person, u might wanna eat ur words.
take out the ducati logo , and the bike has no charecter of its own... really??? ..... throw ur legs around her and u will know what charecter is all about.... all over again !!
the exhaust....... who keeps stock exhaust on a ducati??? thats why we have termis :-) and then again , its all about the performance and that orgasm inducing sound that ducati makes.
tech laden..... u really think so? ducati makes bikes for people who have gone beyond other bikes..... when last did u see a wet clutch ( omit the 848 ) , ride by wire throttle , cam shaft position sensor , throttle position sensor , knock sensor , gear position sensor , crank position sensor , launch control , wheelie control ,etc etc on a ducati sport bike?
oh, i almost forgot..... totally ridiculous riding modes like a,b,c on aprilia.
the fact is, they make machines for pure bread racers. they know very well how to keep the rider in control of the bike.

no offence , about my remarks , but i thought ur points were no based on facts.
have fun

Ducati was always about sharp lines. Take the 848 for example. Sharp tails are not necessarily Japanese exclusive. Also, many bikes are going towards the short exhausts for various benefits. Atleast the increased weight comes as a rescue towards mass centralization.

The twin "Devil eyes" headlights and the LED Pilot lamps, the single sided swingarm, the short seat, the riding position, the huge & hyper sensitive brakes and the v-Twin engine all form a part of its character together. Yes, it is a Ducati!

All I want to convey is that, the Japanese have mostly been on advantage, due to V-Twin's power disadvantages over an inline 4.
Ducati needed to improve & compete with them, while keeping its character intact. This my friend, was the best effort they could have done. Yes, some of the character seems gone but enough is retained.

Change is an inevitable process. Remember the times when Ducati's were represented by the 999 which had two projectors stacked one upon another, like GT 650R?

I thk you're talking about Ducati 999..

Dont jump the gun on the looks, seems like the bike needs some more parts on it!


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848 tail? Sharp?

I must be blind then! what would you call the Gixxers tail then?

the face looks kind of triumph dayton'ish. Is the seat tall or the rider incredibly too small. sitting stance looks aggressive than the 1198 which is supposed to be too aggressive.


Agreed! To me the s1000rr and rsv tails are some of the sharpest.

So the question is, why are Ducatis becoming sharper in each iteration? And more aggressive ?

Japanese competition? Other European competition?
Maybe this is the way the supersport design will evolve!

I think it's more an evolution of Ducati's Superbike genome (quite a groovy mutation I must say )

ZERO.

but i wasn't talking bout the (present) 1198.

the current design is breathtaking.

i hope i do have to eat my words man... and even though i understand that
the spy pics are nowhere near how the final product will look...
i still don't like where Ducati is heading with this.

it's a case of diluted Ducati design. on i don't like it.

i very specifically said "visually... disgusting"...
i'm not saying it won't ride like a Ducati.



where?



this is what i mean by sharp lines.

how is the 848's tail sharp?

ah the day when Italian design bows down to "competition".

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Ducati will move away from its underseat exhaust...it will move away from some of its design principles..not merely because of the competition...but because of the developments in our understanding of the ever advancing technology and handling of a bike. For example, you cant have underseat exhausts anymore cause thats putting weight up high and further from the centre of the mass. You cant have a typical Ducati tail (sharp or not or whatever who cares) because that thing is huge..its putting weight again at the rear and at a height. Japanese embrace these things very very very fast..cause they survive on cut throat competition ! Theirs is not a brand like Ducati and they dont charge a cancer patient's hospital bill for their bikes. Their mantra is to evolve in engineering, technology, handling, design everything. Thats why you see jap guys experimenting with every possible different engine configuration while Ducati will take one setup and go on refining it for a century. Not that Ducati doesnt evolve..but its a little slow to embrace new principles and resists change a lot. If I were Ducati I would do the same so no blaming them. All what we are seeing is Ducati incorporating certain design principles which Japs did in year 2008 ! I would not want Ducati to change anything in their design tho..like they have stuck to vtwins they should stick to their design. They are the most beautiful motorcycles to look at (by far) in this world. As they say..they are lifestyle bikes..so why pursue the mass centralisation bug ?
I am done. Flame me, sue me, screw me. Meh !

When talking abt sharp lines dont forget this one!

Well, I guess the 848's tail is not so sharp after all.
Talking about sharp tails, that KTM RC8R looks like it will cut your hands, its so damn sharp looking.


@ Tenhut: Guess that apart from the lifestyle, they also have to show serious speed to get customers.
And Ducati's nature- the peaky engine, the riding position, etc. are of no lifestyle value, if they can't show straight line speed.

So, they're doing just the right thing- retain the V-Twin, and try getting more and more power within it.