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RTR? Good luck. Did you find out the pros & cons?Originally posted by manarcane View PostI though its better to go with RTR/Gladiators disc.
Lol!!!Originally posted by manarcane View PostI don't really require a disc now, subject to condition that I maintain the disc pad regularly which is quite difficult. Moreover, after the rebuild, I'm sure I'll require a disc and also as a safety measure.
I'm under the impression that drum brakes requires more maintenance than the discs, are you saying its incorrect.
Don't get me wrong @manarcane, I somehow get a feeling that you need to learn a lot more from your current stance for which this is the perfect place. But, I would rather say you can seek help, for which most ppl would be happy to help rather than saying what you intent to do.
For instance, you're saying RXZ disc brakes are available at Y.A.S.S; have you actually gone there to find out if there's one & are they willing to sell? If there's one, we WILL be ready to drive down from any part of India to collect them rather than shipping it. When Bigbore, Sri & JD aren't able to procure RXZ parts, then it really depicts the scarcity of such parts.
Again, you're getting all the performance parts, such as RDD CDI kit, RDD Head mod, RDD filter & Fiber reed valve, but you're going against the idea of disc brakes which is very important. Again, when you're getting all these things, you're missing one more vital part - the 100/90 kit. You're reserving that for a future use - Why?
Trust me, you need to have an unlimited budget. Days of 15K are gone long.Which would very well be around Rs. 15000/Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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ART piston KIT!!! Do want! Can you source one for me pl0x?Originally posted by manarcane View Post.
Piston Kit 1st Oversize? ART Piston, rings & Pin. Isn't this what you call a Piston Kit. And yes, Will pick up the 0.50mm kit once I'm done with rebuilding the bike.RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)
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RX-Z disc setup (Sunstar) is not available in B'lore Yamaha Showrooms. You will need some kind of Gugad to arrange for the same. Forget disc setup, even the latest speedometers (4-gear & 5-gear marking), Center panels (for RXZ), Oil pumps, 5-speed covers, RH mirror assembly etc etc are not in stock anywhere in B'lore (There are many others parts which i have not listed).Originally posted by manarcane View Post@SriramEfunds Most parts are available in Bangalore atleast. Not so sure about RXZ lower tube and disc set up. Will have to check.
Considering scarcity of spares, I though its better to go with RTR/Gladiators disc.
My advice is, forget Palio now & concentrate on RX. Invest all the money you have on purchasing spares for your RX. Car painting can be done anytime mate, but spares for RX can't be purchased anytime. I have 2 numbers of RX135 & i know how difficult it is to maintain them. I too have an Esteem which needs some mods & other accesories, but my 1st priority is RX & then comes my car.
Your call.
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@manarcane - ^^^ the lord has spoken
; look no further on delaying up things. Start collecting now!!!
Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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@SriramEfunds: Thanks for the inputs and suggestions. Yes, I'm following exactly what you have said. At first, I'm procuring the parts first and then start on working on the rebuild.
@aargee: you have got me wrong here. I've not mentioned anywhere in my posts that RXZ disc set up is available. I said, "let me check".
Regarding the maintenance part on brakes, My apologies. I made the statement confusing. What I meant was that drum brakes require more maintenance and with proper maintenance, they are adequate enough with the stock set-up. Yes, I'm going for the disc setup, but will be in the end. I'm not missing on anything which are essential requirements. Hope this makes in clear. Only thing is, I'm doing this in parts due to lot of constraints apart from Vitamin M.
@Karthik: Yes, the parts you mentioned are not available. Infact, I wanted the RXZ meter assembly and they didn't have it. That's the reason I asked on the forum as well...
Please Note: All you so called experts: I'm not a novice to 2-stoke or for that matter, automobile industry.
I need valuable inputs as to what I need to rebuild.
Only valuable inputs I've got till now is from Sriram.
Hope others are listening and get me moving with my project.
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Originally posted by manarcane View PostI need valuable inputs as to what I need to rebuild.
Only valuable inputs I've got till now is from Sriram.
Hope others are listening and get me moving with my project.
WOW.. This is nice. looks like you like to be spoon fed.1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
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LolOriginally posted by yamdoot View PostWOW.. This is nice. looks like you like to be spoon fed.
Good luck & all the best on your project @manarcane; keep us posted if you're looking for anything specific. Tks.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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Thank you Yamdoot & aargee for your inputs.
No, I don't like to be spoon fed but would have appreciated any help I could get.
The only reason I registered on this site is to learn more. I think I was wrong. Thank you all again for the help till now.
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No you aren't @manarcane;Originally posted by manarcane View PostThank you Yamdoot & aargee for your inputs.
No, I don't like to be spoon fed but would have appreciated any help I could get.
The only reason I registered on this site is to learn more. I think I was wrong. Thank you all again for the help till now.
From the beginning I've been telling you're looking at the performance but ignoring disc. Just go back to pages 1 & 2 & you can see what I'm trying to convey, but you give an impression that you want us to justify with you.
Guys who've spoken here are Guru's (except me) in Rx & they've owning more than one with them & have experience with self restoration (which means no mechanic). If they didn't help me, I would've probably sold my Rx long back. If its shining, its only because of all of them. If they say something, just listen to it.
Anyway, keeping those things apart, start collecting the parts, forget the Palio for now as Karthik says or forget Rx now & focus on Palio at the cost of risking the parts. Choice is yours. Keep posting as what parts you procure as & when you buy them.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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@manarcane: If I'm not wrong, there is always scope to learn about machine irrespective of new or senior member. In this 2Stroke arena, we have seen many who come out with a thread to restore their RX. Over the period of years, we learn about the engine, parts and availability. You'll see many jumping on this thread if almost extinct parts were said available. This is because they had done some undeterred hunt for parts across locations. So do not get offended. RXZ parts have disappeared (almost).
Your restoration project on this thread might not only help you but gives opportunity to exchange thoughts/ideas and learning for some (including me).RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011
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Very true..Hunting for parts is a full time effort without excuse,if we are to succeed in the restoration of our bikes.I have a KB100 which I still use and recently did the full engine repair.Two things really test our patience .One is the sourcing of Genuine spares and the second getting the Mechanic to do the job correctly...A few of my friends who used to own RX100 have sold it with a heavy heart because of this....Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post@manarcane: If I'm not wrong, there is always scope to learn about machine irrespective of new or senior member. In this 2Stroke arena, we have seen many who come out with a thread to restore their RX. Over the period of years, we learn about the engine, parts and availability. You'll see many jumping on this thread if almost extinct parts were said available. This is because they had done some undeterred hunt for parts across locations. So do not get offended. RXZ parts have disappeared (almost).
Your restoration project on this thread might not only help you but gives opportunity to exchange thoughts/ideas and learning for some (including me).
I had learnt about my bike and so, sit and do the repair myself. The feeling is special.
When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.
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To get a clear idea of what I'm upto, I've listed the things to be done in stages. Before that, I'm looking at a bike which I don't want to get into extensive mod job which includes porting, chamber etc.
This is what I have in mind. A good street bike to make my adranaline rush.
So the obvious choices to make that possible were by:
- Head job
- RDD CDI
- Reeds
- Filter
- Upjetting.
Most of the above task will be taken care with RDD products.
As aargee mentioned, I'll a need a disk set up too with the this performance. But I'm not going for it at the moment. Will make sure that I mantain my drum brakes in good shape and if possible, replace brake pads every few 1000kms. Doesn't cost much.
So here is how it goes:
1) Procure the parts required. Would like to know from you experts as to which parts would I have to procure as far as the transmission is concerned (clutch plates, connecting rod, shaft etc).
2) Procure the fabrication / cosmetics parts (mirror, engine cowl, center & side stand, front mudgaurd, rear carrier, side covers and other minor parts.
3) Buy only the Gladiotor / RTR front fork assembly. Will even consider pulsars if its cheap. I know the RTR & Pulsar discs are good as I've used both of them. (would like to know feedback on gladiators disc assembly)
4) Get on with the Engine Work and at the same time, get the engine head mod by RDD.
5) During the engine work, get the painting work done.
6) Get a RDD CDI kit, filter (UNI) and reeds (I've asked my friend to enquire about the RZ reeds too from US)
7) Get the disk brake kit.
8) Get the 100/90 kit from RDD. This is the last of it.
Now my concerns are:
1) Although engine parts needs to be replaced based on wear & tear, I want to know which parts when replaced is good when I get a engine overhaul done.
2) Can I use Gladiator front fork assembly with the RTR discs brake kit.
3) Is 100/90 kit from RDD really worth. Cause I can get the re-winding of the coil done for 10% of the cost of RDD kit.
I am not getting all of the things done at one go. I might not go for a disc brake instantly after the engine mod, but will surely go for it within a couple of months.
I hope the things are clear now and wish suggestions, feedbacks are given based on the above route map/plan.
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From my experience, DO NOT carry out all the performance mods now. Including upjetting or head mod. Your priority should be is to get the stock motorcycle up & running in top notch & then go stage by stage. The reason being, if you're struck in an issue, you'll not know where to start identifying it from.
So keep aside the mods for now, get the stock up & running in top shape. Then go with performance mods ONE STEP at a time.
AFAIK, the RDD CDI generates current even for the CDI & has a light weight magnet, so, if you're able to rewind to generate the same current, with the same light weight magnet, then its fine.3) Is 100/90 kit from RDD really worth. Cause I can get the re-winding of the coil done for 10% of the cost of RDD kitLast edited by aargee; 11-20-2010, 07:24 AM.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
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