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  • min stroke length you'll have to check that as well, Arun sent me an oil and its stroke length was at .10mm only it should .20mm I had to add shims to the bugger to make it work right
    RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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    • Originally posted by dafc View Post
      min stroke length you'll have to check that as well, Arun sent me an oil and its stroke length was at .10mm only it should .20mm I had to add shims to the bugger to make it work right
      + 100..Exactly what I also did with Shims....!

      @Nitin, that's why I asked you if the pump was calibrated?
      Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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      • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
        + 100..Exactly what I also did with Shims....!

        @Nitin, that's why I asked you if the pump was calibrated?
        I bought an aluminium washer, filed the damn thing down to 1.2ish mm threw everything that pricol had on the pump, just that washer, the disc and an 8mm nut did the job for me. I think mine had a .28mm stroke length. Before that it was just .12mm idiot companies
        RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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        • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
          Strange to know that the Oil Pump has failed Nitin...Cos in my bike the Previous owner ran on auto-lube only for 1st 1k kms or so and then on pre-mix until 66k kms & till all the way the oil pump continued functioning dry & seems to be still pumping up healthy until i decided to open-up & replace for my own satisfaction...Also speaking of pumping up low volumes of Oil, has the pump been calibrated?



          +100!
          Assumption is it is calibrated since the entire bike was re-built. I had specifically told a million times, two things:- 1) Tune it rich 2) Set 2T oil flow on the higher side.

          Originally posted by SunnyBoi View Post
          I'm not surprised. Even I had a new oil pump failure in 1000KMs. Ever since I've gone premix.
          At the risk of ruining the bore, I would still get it fixed and run autolube. It is too much of a hassle carrying your own oil.

          Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
          You say 30% oil is consumed, then how can the pump fail? The oil flow rate is directly proportional to the throttle opening. For the first 1000kms i assume you will be in 2500-3000RPM band. Its quite common.

          I do WOT runs & oil gets almost finished when the odo has run 1000Kms. Also you can control the flow rate manually also. Just needs the right tuner to do it.


          The owners manual doesn't say anywhere to disconnect the pump during run-in period & then again connect it back!!!!!. Trust me i have run-in more RX135 bores than you people can ever imagine for the last 10+ Yrs.
          This is exactly what my dad said and I kind of thought it made sense. But 30% for 1000kms just isn't seeming right. On my RX100 1200kms and 2T oil tank is about 80-90% empty. Yes, I have been very gentle with the throttle. I mean mostly restricting to 1/4 throttle since the torque of the bike is such. Even then 30% for 1200kms?? Yes, I did open the carb end of the tube. Oil didn't come out for what seemed like a minute. Had to pull the cable.

          Originally posted by dafc View Post
          min stroke length you'll have to check that as well, Arun sent me an oil and its stroke length was at .10mm only it should .20mm I had to add shims to the bugger to make it work right
          This Sunday my first DIY class begins and the first lesson is going to be this. I will update with pictures on Sunday evening. I am just hoping my Master is free
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          • @Nitin , if you say it has run 1000kms, it should have consumed about 700ml of oil . Try the DAFC method.
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            • Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
              This Sunday my first DIY class begins and the first lesson is going to be this. I will update with pictures on Sunday evening. I am just hoping my Master is free
              woah woah if you were talking about me, I am just a grease monkey I gorilla torque nuts and bolts to their demise lol Good on you for taking charge. You'll need a feeler gauge with .20mm, .23mm and .28mm strips. Besides that a pair of nose pliers as well in case you want to undo the disc and add more shims if the stroke length is not correct. Above all, have fun!
              RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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              • By master I meant, a gentlemen called Ashok George, who perhaps is the only member on xbhp with 0 post count. I will be going to his place tomorrow to fix/learn few basic things including adjusting oil pump.
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                • Why all these doubts and worries with lubrication by relying on a mechanical delivery system prone to failure ? Just dump the oil pump and go Pre-mix . No tension , no worries .

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                  • Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                    By master I meant, a gentlemen called Ashok George, who perhaps is the only member on xbhp with 0 post count. I will be going to his place tomorrow to fix/learn few basic things including adjusting oil pump.
                    exactryyyyyyyyyyyy :P
                    RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                    • Originally posted by Vampire View Post
                      Why all these doubts and worries with lubrication by relying on a mechanical delivery system prone to failure ? Just dump the oil pump and go Pre-mix . No tension , no worries .
                      Because the pump feels good man
                      RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                      • Tution class for the day is over

                        Oil pump continues to be a mystery. The Guide Pin was aligned to the mark. Stroke length at WOT was around 0.23mm. Yet when the carb side of the oil tube was taken out, no oil was coming out

                        So loosened the air bleed screw and let some oil flow. Now the stroke length was screwed It became too wide even at WOT. Oil just doesn't flow even after a minute. Came back home and dad increased the oil flow by adjusting the locknut, removed the carb side tube and revved it. Could finally see oil coming out. But then, it had to be revved.

                        Carb tuning is much better now (between 1.75 to 2 turns). It is richer than before and feels good to accelerate beyond 60.

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                        Guide Pin alignment


                        Stroke length at WOT. 0.23mm feeler gauge fitted in easily.
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                        • No man no that's not how it is done, leave the throttle at fully close and turn the motor over. After a few seconds the shaft should come out as it is pumping. When it shoots out kill the motor and then measure the stroke length. Don't have to mess around with the throttle that's the only way to measure it.
                          RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                          • Originally posted by dafc View Post
                            turn the motor over. After a few seconds the shaft should come out as it is pumping. When it shoots out kill the motor and then measure the stroke length.
                            Lost you there.

                            Just referred to the workshop manual. The steps described there is different and I haven't followed them at all
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                            • Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                              Lost you there.
                              start it up, wait for the shaft to pop out, turn it off, measure stroke length
                              RIP ਕਾਕਾ ਭੈਣੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ (Santokh Singh Rataurh)

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                              • Finally got an opportunity to measure mileage after the evening sickness problem was solved. On two liters of petrol the bike ran for 74kms giving out 37kmpl. Not too bad considering the kind of b2b traffic (with 11 traffic signals) I ride in. Will keep a constant eye on it.

                                Dropping of to get the 1st service done this evening.
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