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  • #31
    Updates
    • Bought union rims. 1.4*18 and 1.6*18.
    • Technician finalised. The same gentleman who has worked on my RX100 for many years will do this rebuild. Finally sane quotes. Chassis and Silver bits painting alone will be done by DTW.
    • Compression and mileage test results awaited. Expected tomorrow.
    • Ordered for bolt kit. Delivery expected day after.
    • Paper Work: Yelahanka RTO has sent confrmation request of NOC issued by RTO, Bhubhaneswar. Instructed to get the bike in shape before bringing for inspection. Once the re-build is done, will present the bike for inspection. If the conformation from B'neswar is also received by then, I should be geting KA plates very soon. Arrongant motor vehicle inspector, patient ARTO. Between the two need to get the job done and later thinking of suing the arrogant swine.
    • As of now, looking to wrap this up by 9/25. Let see how this one turns out.
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    • #32
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      Bike was stripped down today. Compression test wasn't done nor was the mileage test done. My technician was eager to open up the bike. His observation:-

      1. Running on 1st O/S. Piston is local 'Sam'. Never heard of it.
      2. Lot of scoring marks on piston/cylinder. Defnitely needs re-bore.
      3. Crankshaft needs re-setting.

      Cylinder kit will be replaced by brand new and so will be crankshaft. Lower half engine will have to be worked upon.

      Here is the maha homa list:-

      1Clutch Cable2Clutch lever Assy3Clutch Rod+Oil Seal4Clutch Plate set5Clutch Boss6Pressure Plate Set7Sprocket Damper Rubber8Push Rod9Idle Gear10Idle Gear Lock Washer11Clutch Bell nut+washer12Primary Gear Nut+Washer13Brake Cable14Brake Shoe Kit+Springs15Brake Cable16Brake Pedal+Spring+rod17Front Brake Adjuster Bolt18Handle Bar19Yok Set20Fork Inner Tube LH RH21Fork Spring22Oil Seals (2PCS)23Cone Set24Dust Seal (2PCS)25Pilot Lamp Assy LH RH26Speedometer Assy27Speedometer cable28Meter plate (bottom)29Number Plates+Rear Number Plate rubber30Indicator Set31Indicator Flasher32Front Mudguard+Bolts (5)33Rear Mudguard34Mudflap F+R+Screw Set (5 screws)35Air filter36Petrol filter372T Oil Hose, big & small+cut rubber38Chain Sprocket Set39Sprocket bearing40Front foor rest rubber41Rear Foot rest Assy42Side Stand+bolt+Spring43Chain Adjuster LH RH44Spark Plug+Cap45Spoke Set46Rear Shocks47Petrol tube+RXZ Petrol filter48Rear Light Assy49Headlight Cover50Horn51Swingarm rubber (2)52Magnet Cover Rubber53Rear wheel axle54Oil Seal Kit552T Oil tank lens+gasket56Engine covers sticker57Petrol Tank Emblem58Side Shiled Emblem59Engine screw kit60Kicker Assy61GP Bearing62Engine bearing (2)63Kicker Spring64Kicker washer+bush65Neutral bolt+washer+spring66Battery Belt67Chain Cover Screw Cover68Chain Cover Rubber69Lock set70Steering lock cap+rivette71Fuel tap72Kicker rubber73Mirror74Cylinder Kit75Crankshaft76Crashguard full
      Last edited by NitinGirish; 09-13-2011, 09:24 PM.
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      • #33
        If you're changing so many front end parts, go for the <insert fav disc brake option> setup.


        Rear wheel axle, Oil tank lens, mudguard, meter plate, primary gear nut, clutch bell nut, Neutral bolt etc. These parts never go wrong. Either you're bike is really screwed up if the mechanic is fleecing you.

        Just get a rebore, use an original ART 0.5 piston. Wouldn't suggest a new kit.
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        • #34
          Bike is screwed, no doubt about that. Mudguard are the plastic ones, so changing it to chrome ones. Meter plate was damaged on my RX100 too earlier. Rest of the parts, well I am just relying on his judgement. In any case, these parts won't hurt me much. Its the big ones like, tyres, battery, mudguards, cylinder, crank, bearing kit, etc which hurts. Most of these I have already. Infact he forgot stuff like crashguard (it has that rowdyish bar now), mirror, etc which I will get anyway.

          Why not a new kit?

          Disk Brake option would cost me much more. I wouldn't settle anything less than Gladiator set-up. Like Nitesh, I also prefer to get parts from same brand. That would set me back by 9-10k? Or thats the impression I get from reading about it in various forums. Currently, only inner tube is the big thing that needs to be replaced. That should set me back by 2600 +/- 10%+constituent parts and consummables say another 500-600. Shouldn't be more than 3.2k. Too wide a difference to pay for a feature which I don't really value.
          Last edited by NitinGirish; 09-13-2011, 10:30 PM.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
            Why not a new kit?
            If you have enough Vitamin M, by all means go for it. I am of the opinion that more braking is always better, it can save your life sometime. which I dont think a new cylinder piston might do. You can get disc brakes instead of spending on a new cylinder kit.

            Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
            In any case, these parts won't hurt me much.
            Small parts do end up pushing the prices. Picked up some ~40-50 small RXZ clearance items from a friend and ended up spending 9000rs :S
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            • #36
              I already have a cylinder kit (and crankshaft) so wouldn't have to spend again. Bought it two years back immediately after dad bought this bike in Puri.

              I agree on small bits pushing up prices though. But they end up playing crucial part. For example fuel tank rubber kit. 3k fuel tank is unusable without Rs.15-20 rubber

              It is a nine year old bike which has seen terrible neglect and seaside. So I don't want to do too much hair splitting and retain old parts. Inclined towards replacement than repair.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                Updates
                Bike was stripped down today. Compression test wasn't done nor was the mileage test done. My technician was eager to open up the bike. His observation:-

                1. Running on 1st O/S. Piston is local 'Sam'. Never heard of it.
                2. Lot of scoring marks on piston/cylinder. Defnitely needs re-bore.
                3. Crankshaft needs re-setting.

                Cylinder kit will be replaced by brand new and so will be crankshaft. Lower half engine will have to be worked upon.

                Crashguard full[/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT]

                Nitin, you can opt for a rebore and save a lot. A new bore kit wouldnt cast you less than 8-10k! Same goes for the crank. A new one [ if you are able to find one] should be around 4-5k . You can save here and use it for a new front end.

                Bangy has some good rebore and crank job places and i believe you would be making the engine stock so that should do the job.

                Use genuine clutch plates. [priced at Rs. 124/- per piece at the showrooms] and O.E steels if needed.
                1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                1989 Ki-Honda 110
                1994 Suzuki Shogun
                1997 Yamaha RX135
                2008 Yamaha FZ
                Suzuki Supra Powerup
                IND-SUZUKI AX100
                Hero IMPULSE
                TVS NTORQ


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                • #38
                  ^^ +1 to that. if you can save some here now, you can complete the rest of it. Run the engine for now, and later source new parts, and replace everything.


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                  • #39
                    Nitin, firstly my best wishes for the rebuild.

                    Coming to the rebuild, my sugesstion would be to completely get the bottom end ready. If you already have CrankShaft assembly then please replace it, but make sure the connecting rod is "2YA", replace the engine bearings too (Yamaha OE or SKF), check the clutch bell assembly, clutch plates, ignition etc.

                    Regarding top end, my view is, if you have a new cylinder kit available with you, please keep it as stock (for future use). Get a 0.5mm OE "ART" piston kit & rebore. Do the run-in & i am quite sure there will not be much change in performance comapared to STD cylinder Vs. your 2nd O/S cylinder. This is the philosophy i have followed. I have to take care of 2 135s & hence all my spares are doubled (these spares are my personal collection).

                    Please let me know if i can help you in any way.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                      Nitin, you can opt for a rebore and save a lot. A new bore kit wouldnt cast you less than 8-10k! Same goes for the crank. A new one [ if you are able to find one] should be around 4-5k . You can save here and use it for a new front end.

                      Bangy has some good rebore and crank job places and i believe you would be making the engine stock so that should do the job.

                      Use genuine clutch plates. [priced at Rs. 124/- per piece at the showrooms] and O.E steels if needed.
                      I've already purchased the bore kit two years back. So the cost is already incurred I've purchased clutch plates also 2 years back and I think the price was 85 odd/piece. Will go home and update this point with a snap.

                      Originally posted by jd666 View Post
                      ^^ +1 to that. if you can save some here now, you can complete the rest of it. Run the engine for now, and later source new parts, and replace everything.
                      All the big ticket items which could have been saved on have already been brought. The current replacement list, I don't have an option. Especially with fork tubes, mudguards, etc. + I want to do this only once.

                      Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                      Nitin, firstly my best wishes for the rebuild.

                      Coming to the rebuild, my sugesstion would be to completely get the bottom end ready. If you already have CrankShaft assembly then please replace it, but make sure the connecting rod is "2YA", replace the engine bearings too (Yamaha OE or SKF), check the clutch bell assembly, clutch plates, ignition etc.

                      Regarding top end, my view is, if you have a new cylinder kit available with you, please keep it as stock (for future use). Get a 0.5mm OE "ART" piston kit & rebore. Do the run-in & i am quite sure there will not be much change in performance comapared to STD cylinder Vs. your 2nd O/S cylinder. This is the philosophy i have followed. I have to take care of 2 135s & hence all my spares are doubled (these spares are my personal collection).

                      Please let me know if i can help you in any way.
                      Thank You Kartik for the wishes. Thats an interesting point you make there regarding con-rod. Will check that tonight after going home. 2YA are Japnese?

                      The plan around cylinder kit is to get it re-bored at Vijaydeep and buy a 2nd O/S ART (somehow, not sure if I will be able to source it) and keep it as a spare. I would like to use the new cylinder now, when the usage of bike would be more, rather than 5-10 years later when I think I would hardly use it.

                      Yes, agree with maintaining more than one two-stroke. Investment in spares is crazy. The way I am balancing it is, for RX100 I am stocking up as much as I can. This bike will be with me as long as I am alive. RX135, I will use may be for 5-6 years and if parts are difficult to come by and maintenance becomes a pain I don't mind selling it. Not too keen on spending on maintaining an inventory for RX135. Its just too much of a financial drain.

                      EDIT: Clutch plates bought at Rs.82/piece in 2009. Now I am wondering
                      . I Figured out how to upload pics!!!!! Whoa I am a genius. Finally after three years of becoming a member here I am a superstar
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                      Last edited by NitinGirish; 09-14-2011, 10:48 PM.
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                      • #41
                        Update

                        Chassis and silver bits given to painting this afternoon. ETC-1 week.

                        Wheel rims and few bolts given for chrome plating. ETC-1 week.

                        Most nuts/bolts junked. Most spokes had to be cut and removed.

                        Grab rail, exhaust chrome cover, saree guard also could not be salvaged. Rust mahal.

                        It was a good idea to procure new nuts and bolts. Thank You Ashok for this.
                        Last edited by NitinGirish; 09-15-2011, 08:04 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Updates
                          Finally met my mechanic this evening after work. Got back the old cylinder, piston and crankshaft. What he told me was piston is not of any standard size. Cylinder has been bored to match he piston's unusual dimensions!

                          Another revelation from my dad today-Sand paper was used by the boy, while washing the bike on tank Even on handle bar. No wonders it is what it is

                          Picture time

                          Existing Crankshaft with local conrod






                          Sam Piston




                          Sam Piston





                          Existing Bore on the bike



                          4TL00


                          E-1: What would be a fair price to sell this one for?



                          2YA brand new cranshaft. Strangely enough, this one s got more play
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                          • #43
                            Some spares that would go into this re-build:-




                            Mudflaps, lockset (with helmet lock), Pricol Speedo Assy, Pilot Lamp Assy, Headlight Rim and cover, OE Horn (Nikko), OE Indicators (not round ones)


                            Fork Inner Tube set, Catcon exhaust chrome cover (silencer plate), rear brake pedal rods, rear brake pedal, handle bar (Gladiator), Spokes (Hero Honda)



                            Engine bearings (didn't get the set as it was not in stock and I didn't want to wait), Clutch Dog, wheel bearings, circlips, clutch damper (sprocket rubber), throttle cable, chain adjuster, carb manifold clamp, grip assist (Crux), Lever holder, brake shoe kit, flasher relay, 2T oil lens



                            Grab Rail, terrible welding/finishing. Thinking of getting another layer of chrome on it if the rate is reasonable, else I will put the black cover on this. Plain lousy part.


                            Butterfly crashguard. But nothing like the ones that came in the 80s and 90s. These are very short. Butterfly crashguards those days were tall and looked really good.


                            Cover Upper Stay (kaan) 2sets, 2t oil hoses set, air filter, reed valve, clutch cable, rear mudguard, petrol filter, petrol cock.


                            Carb manifold joint, number plates, rubber for rear number plate, spring torsion, fork springs, small items, rear shocks (OE-Escorts), foot rest rubber, side stand


                            I forgot quite a few things. Need to buy them, emblems, stickers, clutch lever, seat assy, etc. Will do over the course of this week.
                            Last edited by NitinGirish; 09-18-2011, 09:42 PM.
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                            • #44
                              wow!!! Nithingirish that looks like a maha loot !! super cool.. mouth watering


                              all the best
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                              • #45
                                Thanks :-)
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