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  • #16
    Re: My Rx100 restoration

    Originally posted by RTR996 View Post
    Hope You Are Have a nice time restoring your RX..! If you want some nostalgia remaining.. you must stop modifying it.! As with the cylinder kits,the only thing i know is that the Japanese ones from the late 1985 to 1987 came with Y1,Y2 bores .from then onwards naming changed with G1,G2,G3,G4 All Made in India.! AFAIK in the case of the 135 people rarely pick bores of I3,I4. Still dont know the exact reason of this. so better stick with lower numbers (1,2) to go with the crowd hope that helps.
    yes it does help thanx. so my new cylinder says I-2. is it genuine? if not where to procure a new legit one?

    also as you said in your post "some nostalgia", well that is my goal. neither have I ever nor will I ever modify THIS bike. it must remain stock..... at least in appearance. as far as the engine is concerned..........well.......... I am not going to try anything that I cannot revert to original at any given time. I saw an old Pearl Yamaha MG1 50cc destroyed this way. it was too scary........ the bike was from 1967.
    In conclusion this is a total restoration job with mods wherever absolutely necessary.

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    also does anyone know about www.indiaspares.in . how good are they. are the parts they supply genuine. from what I can tell they are based in delhi and ranchi
    Last edited by Balgi; 09-21-2014, 10:51 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: My Rx100 restoration

      Originally posted by Balgi View Post
      what's this my restoration thread has gone cold turkey. all I did was ask for help and it seems every 2 stroker and all senior BHPians have vanished. come on guys I really need help.

      I know this RX100 may not be as exciting to all of you as a RD350 or a rajdoot or jawa and any other exotic but it means a lot to me. I grew up on this bike, me and my Dad bonded over this bike, its not only my first ride but also the very first motorcycle that I laid my eyes on and I want to see her returned to her former glory.

      My Dad says the bike has aged with him and now it is obsolete and it should be retired (he said this with an air of sadness and disappointment). I just want to bring her youth back and show my Dad that it has many more years to go.

      So please help me.
      Dear Balgi, I can understand the special place the bike has in your heart and how much it means to you to restore it back to its original glory. Fortunately, there are a lot of people doing up their dear old yammies, and most of the parts are still available ( although costs a bomb) from yamaha showroom. One pointer for you would be to contact any old yamaha factory trained mechanics or Old Show-rroms still in business. They can help you source parts or order them if not available.

      Unfortunatley, I have very little information to guide in your rebuild. All the best

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      • #18
        Re: My Rx100 restoration

        Originally posted by srikany View Post
        Dear Balgi, I can understand the special place the bike has in your heart and how much it means to you to restore it back to its original glory. Fortunately, there are a lot of people doing up their dear old yammies, and most of the parts are still available ( although costs a bomb) from yamaha showroom. One pointer for you would be to contact any old yamaha factory trained mechanics or Old Show-rroms still in business. They can help you source parts or order them if not available.

        Unfortunatley, I have very little information to guide in your rebuild. All the best
        Thank you Srikany, but here in Hyderabad the old showrooms laugh at you if you go to them for parts. and that is why I came here, because if nothing else at least I can get sources for other cities so I may check with them for parts. unfortunately my rebuild seems to lack the razzle dazzle to draw in other 2 stroke enthusiasts.

        If you can help draw some experts or some resourceful members attention to this thread I would really appreciate it.

        Thanx

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        • #19
          Re: My Rx100 restoration

          Originally posted by kusmaker
          What parts do you need for your Rx-100, most of the parts are available here in my state.
          Hey thanx man. the parts I need are a cylinder piston kit. the Air cleaner box and sponge element inside, a body rubber kit, wiring harness 12v and a coil plate and magnet 12v.

          Also if you can help me I would also like a used original coil side engine cover, the one with the "made in japan" embossing near the shifter lever. it doesn't need to be in great condition but just salvageable. I can refurbish it my old mechanic, a crook that he is stole it and said he had to replace it because it was broken.

          I really appreciate the help. Thank You

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          • #20
            Re: My Rx100 restoration

            Originally posted by Balgi View Post
            Hey thanx man. the parts I need are a cylinder piston kit. the Air cleaner box and sponge element inside, a body rubber kit, wiring harness 12v and a coil plate and magnet 12v.

            Also if you can help me I would also like a used original coil side engine cover, the one with the "made in japan" embossing near the shifter lever. it doesn't need to be in great condition but just salvageable. I can refurbish it my old mechanic, a crook that he is stole it and said he had to replace it because it was broken.

            I really appreciate the help. Thank You

            To start with your parts list,

            1. Cylinder and piston kit is available.
            2. Air cleaner box and air filter is getable(though you won't get the old style yellow filter newer ones are black in colour)
            3. Wiring harness is also available but one has to order for magnet and coil plate and that takes time.
            4. As you have yourself know that older made in japan embossed magnet side cover is not getable now, the only way to get this part is in junk market. I will try to look out for this part in one or two places which i know and will inform you but the chances are very remote.

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            • #21
              Re: My Rx100 restoration

              Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
              To start with your parts list,

              1. Cylinder and piston kit is available.
              2. Air cleaner box and air filter is getable(though you won't get the old style yellow filter newer ones are black in colour)
              3. Wiring harness is also available but one has to order for magnet and coil plate and that takes time.
              4. As you have yourself know that older made in japan embossed magnet side cover is not getable now, the only way to get this part is in junk market. I will try to look out for this part in one or two places which i know and will inform you but the chances are very remote.
              This is great. please PM me the prices of the parts available and also how to get in touch with you and we will make arrangements for the purchase. Thanx a lot man you are a life saver.

              about the coil cover, Thank you for offering to look for it. I know it isn't all that important but for me the bike is not complete without it. as I said earlier I am doing a proper restoration and not a resto-mod. so I want it all stock. Again Thank you for the effort. much appreciated.

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              the frame is in great shape for 28 years of use. the engine is great as well. now to start the painting...............

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              • #22
                Re: My Rx100 restoration

                For the magnet cover, search on fb rx pages. You will find it mostly, but it would cost too much and in my opinion is not worth the price you will get it at.

                Cylinder kit should be available in svc on order. It costs about 8-9,000 rs.

                Body rubber kit is not availble as a whole in yamaha. You have to buy them separate. Like tank rubber set, panel rubber set, cylinder rubber set etc. Non oe rubber kits are available easily.

                Oem minda wiring harness is available for cheap in the market. But coil plate and drum may be hard to get. The better option would be to switch to a whole rx135 electrical assy. Its easier to get.

                Sent from my XT1033 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                Last edited by Bibhu; 09-24-2014, 06:01 AM.
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                • #23
                  Re: My Rx100 restoration

                  Originally posted by kusmaker
                  Yeah i can understand your craving for that "Made in Japan" embossing, last cost of cylinder kit was 8500/-rs, wiring will be some 400/-rs, for magnet and coil plate Rx-135 is the easier and only option, but it will cost some 5000/-rs, and will take time as these parts are not readily available.

                  Aren't you getting these parts at Yamaha ASC, or any genuine yamaha spare parts shop, just try to look out at these joints and if you don't get them there then i will get the parts from Delhi.

                  Good to know that you are restoring the bike to its stock looks, that's where she looks beautiful and best, in my opinion any mods just ruins this beautiful looking bike.
                  like I posted earlier on this thread, in hyderabad the yamaha ASC's and yamaha authorized retailers just start laughing or I get the same old responce "woh to nai banta hai ab sar. hona to bahar dukan me puch lo idhar malum nai" and that is why I asked you because you said in your city parts are readily available.

                  you said something about delhi. can you please inquire as to which parts you can get and pm me. I'd really appreciate it. Thanx

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                  • #24
                    Re: My Rx100 restoration

                    Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                    For the magnet cover, search on fb rx pages. You will find it mostly, but it would cost too much and in my opinion is not worth the price you will get it at.

                    Cylinder kit should be available in svc on order. It costs about 8-9,000 rs.

                    Body rubber kit is not availble as a whole in yamaha. You have to buy them separate. Like tank rubber set, panel rubber set, cylinder rubber set etc. Non oe rubber kits are available easily.

                    Oem minda wiring harness is available for cheap in the market. But coil plate and drum may be hard to get. The better option would be to switch to a whole rx135 electrical assy. Its easier to get.

                    Sent from my XT1033 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                    Thank you for the info. the thing is I don't know if the cylinder kit is available in my state. I searched high and low but only found knock off cylinder kits for low price of 3200 and these are not worth it even for use and throw. can you please check if it is available in your city if so pm me the details.
                    about the coil cover, If it is available on fb then I will look into it and since it is an absolute stock rebuild fueled by nostalgia and my obsession with perfection, the price is no object.

                    thanx for replying to my pm.

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                    Originally posted by kusmaker
                    Alright brother i haven't read your thread from the starting that's why i asked this question, no worry cylinder kit and other rubber parts are available the only doubt i am having is of the magnet and coil plate, though they are available but these parts had to be ordered and these parts take time, what i will do is that i will inquire the current availabity and price of the parts and then inform you in a day or two.

                    Dukandar ko bolo agar tumhare paas nahin haih to banna band ho gaya. Cheerz.
                    Thanx man. waiting patiently with both eyes and ears open. thank you for your help.

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                    • #25
                      Re: My Rx100 restoration

                      Originally posted by kusmaker
                      All of these cheap cylinder kits are made in china and are utter crap so go only for genuine ones.
                      Yes but see that is my question. how do I identify a genuine cylinder kit? the kits available before production was stopped, those I know but what are the markings that are embossed on them now? so how do I identify. like I recently ordered a cylinder kit for 8200 off of India Spares, Buy Online, Cash On Delivery and let me tell you it turned out to be a knock off albeit a decent quality one. but my bike felt a bit sluggish in at higher speeds. this sites office is in ranchi I think. so you see here I have but two choices 1) buy the shitty part or 2)get cheated online or through shops claiming to be authorized dealers. I am just lost here.

                      by the way word of warning. although India Spares, Buy Online, Cash On Delivery has all the parts, most of them are decent quality knock offs or refurbished parts do not order from them. just letting everyone know so my experience can serve as a warning to you. to put things in perspective I wasted Rs12,000 on this site and got sleepless nights and the embarrassment of being made a fool of.

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                      • #26
                        Re: My Rx100 restoration

                        Helo buddy

                        I felt realy bad for your bitter experience with indiaspares
                        but i wanna ask you one question if you dont mind...
                        have you checked your bikes entire powertrain before came to the conclusion that indiaspares are cheater...??
                        plz check the tuning of carburetor and clutch bell first...there might be some cause..!!!

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                        • #27
                          Re: My Rx100 restoration

                          Originally posted by Balgi View Post
                          Yes but see that is my question. how do I identify a genuine cylinder kit? the kits available before production was stopped, those I know but what are the markings that are embossed on them now? so how do I identify. like I recently ordered a cylinder kit for 8200 off of India Spares, Buy Online, Cash On Delivery and let me tell you it turned out to be a knock off albeit a decent quality one. but my bike felt a bit sluggish in at higher speeds. this sites office is in ranchi I think. so you see here I have but two choices 1) buy the shitty part or 2)get cheated online or through shops claiming to be authorized dealers. I am just lost here.

                          by the way word of warning. although India Spares, Buy Online, Cash On Delivery has all the parts, most of them are decent quality knock offs or refurbished parts do not order from them. just letting everyone know so my experience can serve as a warning to you. to put things in perspective I wasted Rs12,000 on this site and got sleepless nights and the embarrassment of being made a fool of.
                          Thanks Bro for bringing this to everyones attention.. (y)

                          most of the RX100 parts you can source through the old time Yamaha dealers

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                          • #28
                            Avhad sitaram- I did not check the carburetor man because I ordered a new one from them which leaked in the first 300kms. Lucky for me I still have the original made In japan carb. And the cylinder was so badly made that the piston rings(goetze) were not even touching the cylinder surface just above the ports + it said 36L00.... On its side and not Yamaha 98cc. At the time I thought this was the new marking style............ I came to know much later.

                            Satishg- it is in the earlier part of my thread. There I have said that I'm from Hyderabad and that here rx100's are cheap and parts are scarce. The old Yamaha dealers here are in ramkot and another is pearl Yamaha and patny motors. When I asked them they looked at me like I'm an idiot, that I have been living under a rock. So asking authorized dealers here for rx100 parts is a sin.

                            Kusmaker- I know dude the world is full of cheats and liers and that's why I chose to order online and again I have been cheated. I feel so stupid. It is therefore lucky for me that I found xbhp where friendly people help others just for the satisfaction that comes off it and not for profit. I have read a few threads here and seen this first hand. And this is the reason I asked for your help and others too. Because you have no reason to cheat me. Thank you dude.

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                            Originally posted by avhad sitaram View Post
                            Helo buddy

                            I felt realy bad for your bitter experience with indiaspares
                            but i wanna ask you one question if you dont mind...
                            have you checked your bikes entire powertrain before came to the conclusion that indiaspares are cheater...??
                            plz check the tuning of carburetor and clutch bell first...there might be some cause..!!!
                            to amend my earlier post in reply to yours here are some pictures of the cylider itself. I am clubbing it to my resto update.

                            Update #3 such cheaters boss...........
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                            so as you can see bro the cylinder has many scraches on the inside and the area near the ports still retains its manufacturing tool marks after 670 kms+ of riding the bike. initially I thought its because the cylinder needed to be run in but a little later I had my doubts, plus the cylinder is quite ugly with shoddy finish. and the crank I ordered from them has play in its con-rod. although it is of good quality and can be refurbished and reused. I hope that answers your doubts and I hope you'll steer clear of indiaspares.
                            Last edited by The Monk; 09-25-2014, 04:41 PM. Reason: Consecutive posts

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                            • #29
                              Re: My Rx100 restoration

                              Originally posted by Balgi View Post
                              it said 36L00.... On its side and not Yamaha 98cc. At the time I thought this was the new marking style............ I came to know much later.
                              If the new cylinder kit you bought had 36L00 and I-1,I-2 etc are the new series of bores made available at the showroom and else where.

                              The one you see YAMAHA 98cc on the bores were of old batch, so know the difference.

                              FYI..Japanese bores that came with 1985-86 batch had 36L00 and Y-1,Y-2 on the other side.
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                              • #30
                                Re: My Rx100 restoration

                                Originally posted by kusmaker
                                No need to feel sorry or stupid, all of us in our lifetime gets cheated, this site is full of helpful peoples and they will help in the best possible way they can.
                                Thanks Bro. it fills me with joy and confidence being here. and you are right about the helpful nature of the members here. makes me proud to be part of this community.
                                By the way did you check out the pics I just posted the cylinder is most definitely a knock off and it is bored improperly.

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                                Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
                                If the new cylinder kit you bought had 36L00 and I-1,I-2 etc are the new series of bores made available at the showroom and else where.

                                The one you see YAMAHA 98cc on the bores were of old batch, so know the difference.

                                FYI..Japanese bores that came with 1985-86 batch had 36L00 and Y-1,Y-2 on the other side.
                                Thanks for the info Bro but I am fairly certain the bore I got is fake as it is improperly bored and ports are not clean milled. check out the pics I posted.

                                + I have my old bore which is of better metallurgical quality as I have been told by my highly experienced mechanic and family friend ( details in my profile and on earlier post) so will rebore it to 1st oversize and see what happens. meantime a new cylinder kit pops up will get it. you can never have enough spare when it comes to bikes like these.
                                Last edited by Balgi; 09-25-2014, 04:50 PM.

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